Halloween night - anti social behaviour/how do you deal with it ?

Flaccus · 31-10-2007 03:25PM #1

How many of you every year put up with this and do you do anything about it ?

Last year I had the rear of my car spray painted while it was in the driveway, and shrubs/trees in front garden set on fire. A person down the road had their car vandalised beyond recognition. Another person was battered with eggs while driving up the road and crashed. Needless to say I caught one of the scummers and held onto him while waiting nearly 40 minutes for the cops to arrive. It's an ongoing event every year and the cops are too busy dealing with more serious ussues. Most of the trouble makers are imported scum who know local lads in the area. Typically they drive into the esate in their sh*tbox glanzas, park up and wreak havoc. It usually kicks off the week before, peaks on halloween night and continues till the weekend usually. In the last week we have a person in our area with 1 burned out car because they rang the gardai complaining about their 2 year old not being able to sleep with bangers being thrown at their front door, all street lights smashed, 1 neighbours wall broken down, and about half a dozen or so smaller incidents. I know worse goes on in other housing estates. But most people I know seem to take it as they do not want to risk confrontation.

Just wondering if this sort of thing is something people on these forums just put up with. This year I have 2 mates coming around who will introduce anyone who wants to Mr. H.Url. Me, I'm going to move to another county next year as my nerves are shot.

Dragan · 31-10-2007 03:28PM

Hmmm.....2 years i had a group of 18/19 year old kids aim those "repeaters" at me as i walked up to the shop. It was a pretty cold night and had my nice thick coat and a hat on, so i just pulled down the hat and walked at them.

Foolishly they stood their laughing and when i reached them i lamped one of them in the jaw and the other in the nose.

That shut them the **** up.

Now, i'm not condoning violence by any means but at the end of the day i was assaulted with a weapon and was defending myself.

I ****ing hate posh kids who act like scum even more than i hate scum.

cornbb · 31-10-2007 03:28PM

Too right. Not much can be done about it aside from securing your property and staying in. Having a "deterrent" like Mr. H.U.R. Lee handy would be no harm either though.

cooperguy · 31-10-2007 03:30PM

My god do you live in down town baghdad. In my area all that happens is some people let off fireworks, which I dont mind too much as long as they are firing them into the air and not at people! Besides some of them are quite impressive:D

Where your place is sounds like hell on earth though!!

<edit> Whats a repeater?

Binomate · 31-10-2007 03:34PM

I'm working in a shop from 3 till 10. Yay...

Hopefully the fact that there's a Garda station around the corner will make this go a lot easier.

star-pants · 31-10-2007 03:35PM

Jebus that's a bit mental!
You poor thing --and all your neighbours.
I guess I'm lucky enough we don't really have any trouble, just a few cars zipping up and down & bangers (occasionally in peoples letter boxes, so we tape them up).

It's really sad how some people get their kicks, bored or not, I never quite understand the thrill behind hurting people / smashing up their car etc.

I hope for yer sake that it's not too bad tonight.

DonJose · 31-10-2007 03:36PM

Flaccus wrote: »

Just wondering if this sort of thing is something people on these forums just put up with. This year I have 2 mates coming around who will introduce anyone who wants to Mr. H.Url. Me, I'm going to move to another county next year as my nerves are shot.

Where are you living?

Jesus Wept · 31-10-2007 03:41PM

Huge bonfire being setup, I live right beside a green area.

Almost no trouble the other 364 days in the year, but it seems to be scumbag central on Halloween night, they are convening like rats, coming out of everywhere and gathering.

Last year we had a firework that resembled 6 sticks of dynamite tied together put through our bathroom window.

Halloween is beyond sh1t in this country.

Dinxminx · 31-10-2007 03:44PM

That does NOT happen round where I live.... Poor you!

projectmayhem · 31-10-2007 03:49PM

band together, grab the little muppets and give them a beating.

i worked in a shop and last year we only had one little bag of crap give any trouble, so we hit the panic button and 30mins later the gards arrived (despite the station physically being attached to the shop at the back) and let him go off into the sunset. would have been more satisfactory to take him out the back to a blindspot on the cameras and plant his face into the wall a few times

c - 13 · 31-10-2007 03:50PM

LMAO, just got a call from my sister. Two local scrotebags were taken off today for abusng the local cops when they told them to take down the bonfire they were putting up (on a rarely used publc road might I add), now the cops are parked there to prevent them putting something up.

Nice to see them doing something for a change - a girl here got severely burned last year after someone threw a banger/firework into the bonfire and it launched out hitting her in the chest.

I'm sure that they'll start restacking the stuff anyway when the cops shift is finished, they surely wont think of sending anyone out to watch for the night anyway

Fireworks drive my sisters dog nuts aswell ... the thing is a nervous wreck the last few days.

Jesus Wept · 31-10-2007 03:50PM

might start a vigilante group similar to Homer Simpson's.

Can anyone swing a sack of doorknobs?

c - 13 · 31-10-2007 03:52PM

The-Rigger wrote: »

Can anyone swing a sack of doorknobs?

Heres the sack, you have to supply your own doorknobs ...

Flaccus · 31-10-2007 03:53PM

I'd rather not say where I live to be honest. But the kids there are so called "posh kids" but also seem to be wannabe knackers, hence attract real knackers. Neither group have respect for peoples property.

Since Jan of this year when I bought a new car, I have had (1) rear side window smashed, (2) side mirror booted off, (3) 2 months ago a wheelie bin thrown on the rear of the car (full of rubbish) at around 6am severly denting the rear bumper, and (4) last week stone/gravel flung accross bonnet resulting in something like 42 stone chips. I keep my car in the driveway, alarmed etc..

Have also had 2 attempted breakins, one while I was in the house by 2 guys with knives. Neighbours too. This went on for almost 3 solid nights, cops wouldn't come out, and when they did it turned out they knew the scummers who were out on bail, which I found out later was for home invasion/assault. They were eventually rounded up. This was only because I had the whole thing on CCTV and stuck it on a DVD and brought it into the local cop shop demanding satisfaction. Meanwhile while all this was going on, I was going into work with nerves shot to hell wondering if house would be burned down or robbed while in work. In the end I just got a cavity block thrown through the rear window in the kitchen so got off lightly relatively speaking.

Tonight just doubles up as more "fun" for these scummers. I remember last year being told that I was spoiling their "halloween" when I objected to them lighting my neigbours trees on fire with lighterfluid or somesuch. At 1.30am on a bloody weekday when people are trying to get some sleep for work.

The only real alternative I see is to move out to the bloody country into Clare somewhere, or get some cartridges for my double barrrel which I only use when clay pigeon shooting. But we all know where that leads :mad: 1 side effect of all of this is I am now super paranoid and lay awake at night wondering what this or that noise is.

Degsy · 31-10-2007 04:06PM

If yas see kids stacking stuff for a bonfire ring this number and it'll be removed 1800251500.They wont do it if the stuffis actually lit but they'll take it away before they have chance.

Jumpy · 31-10-2007 04:10PM

South Africa has the right idea, god fogive anyone trying to get into your house, as they would have to get through the razor wire, glass topped walls and dogs. Not to mention the armed patrol (depending on where you live of course)

Fooz · 31-10-2007 04:13PM

Flaccus, I'd really consider moving to a different area, that sounds horrific. I'd try to keep your car somewhere else tonight for a start...

I don't plan to be at home tonight until late. There are a few brats (scumbags in training)in the estate and I'll be damned if I'm handing them out free chocolates or whatever.

Nevyn · 31-10-2007 04:16PM

There will be two boxes by my door one with treat bag and the other with waterballons with ice water with a dash of vinegear.
The garden will be hosed down and the house lit up and we have a side light.
there usually does not be that much hassle, fingal have already sent gusy twice into the estate to clear away 'rubbish' for the bonefires.
If they brought back the house hold collections it would solve a lot of this hassle.

ScumLord · 31-10-2007 04:16PM

Flaccus wrote: »

The only real alternative I see is to move out to the bloody country into Clare somewhere,

It wouldn't be much better out in the country. We where right bastards when we where young and having the countryside to go hide in ment you where never caught. We used to camp out in the graveyard trowing eggs at cars. Only one guy ever came in after us (the newest grave in the yard was over 150 years old and the whole place was overgrown) and he left a gibbering wreck. Our bonfires where out in the middle of a feild though so never really caused any problems for anyone when we started trowing gas barrels into the thing. God we where stupid back then.

cson · 31-10-2007 04:18PM

I was on my laptop (on boards) last night when I heard muttering outside the window. Previously the courtyard where I live had seemingly been timewarped out to Baghdad, with all the fecking bangers going off. Straight away I gave my mate a shout, we grabbed our two hurls and stood in the hall. About a minute later a group comes over to the door and starts trying to light and put a banger in our letter box. We opened the door and started to wade into them with the hurls.

Best craic I've ever had. Seriously its the most satisfying feeling ever.

Skellington · 31-10-2007 04:20PM

A few lads and a transit van would sort it out fairly sharpish. If it's an ongoing thing for you and all your neighbours, why not get a group of yous and grab one of scum bags, you don't even need to hit anyone if yous aren't comfortable with it, just take his wallet and get some addresses. Tell the parents things will come back ten fold to them and their property if it doesn't stop. Just remember to have your face covered.

biko · 31-10-2007 04:36PM

Get 5 Garda Halloween costumes for you and your mates*

*don't do this. It's illegal

Degsy · 31-10-2007 04:47PM

I'm not advocating anybody breaking the law here but IF you're bringing poles or baseball bats to a "party" make sure you grease it everywhere but the bit you're going to be holding.This stops anybody grabbing it off you and turning the tables.Alternativly,drill a hole through the handle and insert some stout cord to make a loop through which to put your hand.

Jumpy · 31-10-2007 04:55PM

Degsys a pro.

Orange69 · 31-10-2007 05:07PM

Degsy wrote: »

I'm not advocating anybody breaking the law here but IF you're bringing poles or baseball bats to a "party" make sure you grease it everywhere but the bit you're going to be holding.

What the hell kind of Halloween parties do you frequent?

Jumpy · 31-10-2007 05:15PM

Orange69 wrote: »

What the hell kind of Halloween parties do you frequent?

I wouldnt press him on that. It will be yours next

cson · 31-10-2007 05:42PM

Degsy wrote: »

I'm not advocating anybody breaking the law here but IF you're bringing poles or baseball bats to a "party" make sure you grease it everywhere but the bit you're going to be holding.This stops anybody grabbing it off you and turning the tables.Alternativly,drill a hole through the handle and insert some stout cord to make a loop through which to put your hand.

I'd always imagined "Degsy" would be something you'd call your vicious pitbull terrier.

Sound advice though. I'd also like to add that wrapping the bat in barbed wire can also have the same effect and the added bonus that it can tear out skin and various other body parts.

gurramok · 31-10-2007 05:48PM

Close all friggin windows, they've lit the bonfire already in the next street and the poxy smoke is blowing straight onto the our street and its still daylight!

connundrum · 31-10-2007 05:58PM

On sites that I look after we've had to employ security guards for tonight only. From the reports I'm getting, there are the makings of bonfires in nearly every site. Its gonna be a very busy one methinks

I'll be visiting a few sites later and will have me hurl in the car. Just incase anyone's up for a quick game. Of course.

Dave! · 31-10-2007 06:28PM

connundrum wrote: »

On sites that I look after we've had to employ security guards for tonight only. From the reports I'm getting, there are the makings of bonfires in nearly every site. Its gonna be a very busy one methinks

I'll be visiting a few sites later and will have me hurl in the car. Just incase anyone's up for a quick game. Of course.

Playing hurling on halloween night! connundrum the eternal sports enthusiast. God bless you

connundrum · 31-10-2007 06:45PM

DaveMcG wrote: »

Playing hurling on halloween night! connundrum the eternal sports enthusiast. God bless you

I'd bring a football, but the bigger boys might take it and not give it back

Halloween night - anti social behaviour/how do you deal with it ?

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