Rude People on the Luas

Dragan · 16-10-2007 01:17PM

Degsy wrote: »

As for people acting the bollox,taking up seats and floor space i say tell them to move..they usually will do it especially if it during the day and the bus or whatever is full.Most of these scumbags are just windbags who rely on people being afraid of them to do whatever they please.Remember,you pay your fair and your taxes,if they dont want to play bythe rules,let them ****ing walk.

Bingo, all these ***** draw their power from people being too scared to do anything about them. You had a carrige full of people in the story above and not one of them would tell that scumbag to stand the **** up and stop being a knob?

**** me.

It's the same with the groups of young **** who travel from Sandyford/Dundrum to town ever Friday night so they can get stopped at doors and feel cool. Everytime they **** around and act the maggot until told to shut the **** up, then they sit there feeling sheepish.

Degsy · 16-10-2007 01:18PM

syklops wrote: »

Some day im going to write a thread on the feminist, militant creatures which make up most irish females I have met between the ages of 12 and 30 in the last few years. It seems you have just experienced one.

And whatever you do dont get in the way when they're hurrying along,cup of coffee in one hand,phone pressed to ear in the other and the obligitory sunglasses pushed up on thier heads regardless of the weather.

Slow Motion · 16-10-2007 01:22PM

Degsy wrote: »

And whatever you do dont get in the way when they're hurrying along,cup of coffee in one hand,phone pressed to ear in the other and the obligitory sunglasses pushed up on thier heads regardless of the weather.

God forbid you should hold the door open for one of these, I did once and it wasn't pretty.......*

*Mind you neither was she

dame · 16-10-2007 01:24PM

Washout wrote: »

tbh i dont blame people pushing on...especially at peak times at jervis...i mean what are they supposed to do just wait and watch all the full trams go buy. got to be aggressive. Is there no solution to increase the size of the red line tram?

If they're heading out of town they should walk across O'Connell St and get on at Abbey St instead, hardly ever any bother getting on there, but people are too lazy. :rolleyes:

If they're heading in the other direction (towards Connolly) then (unless they're very old or very infirm) they should just walk (there's only a stop or two past than Abbey St), but again, people are far too lazy. :rolleyes:

By the way, it is only a 20 minute walk max down along the quays to Heuston. Last year I used to drive to Red Cow, get Luas into town in morning but then in the evening I'd walk to Heuston and get the Luas from there out. No problem with getting on the Luas from Heuston out and you'll have stretched your legs and got some fresh air in the meantime.

Unless it's pissing rain, then just walk folks. It'll do you good. I've suggested it to people I know and most come up with a crap excuse like "my shoes would kill me", simple answer; bring a pair of runners to change into for the walk. Laziness is half the cause of over-crowding on the Luas or buses. How often do you see people getting on and going only a couple of stops or going for a distance they could walk if they were bothered?

syklops · 16-10-2007 01:27PM

I've done that a few times, but I have learnt my lesson. I only do it for people I know, or people over the age of about 40. Otherwise it gets ugly. I have given up on the friendly smile on the bus/luas/whatever, as that can get ugly too. They always want to know what you want.

Degsy · 16-10-2007 01:43PM

What bugs me lots is people(usually foreign on the 40d),using bags to take up the entire seat beside them and in some cases the seat in front of them too.I often bring my gym bag to work and politeness tells me to put it on the floor under the seat in front of me.On a couple of occasions i've seen people with thier legs outstretched along a seat and a bag in front of them,headphones on and audibly tutting when you ask them to move.

Slow Motion · 16-10-2007 01:46PM

Degsy wrote: »

What bugs me lots is people(usually foreign on the 40d),using bags to take up the entire seat beside them and in some cases the seat in front of them too.I often bring my gym bag to work and politeness tells me to put it on the floor under the seat in front of me.On a couple of occasions i've seen people with thier legs outstretched along a seat and a bag in front of them,headphones on and audibly tutting when you ask them to move.

I friggin hate gettin this bus (everyday), you forgot to mention the half a dozen skangers upstairs at the back smoking hash and playing that bleedin' hamster ringtone at full volume :mad:

Mr. Incognito · 16-10-2007 01:49PM

Um.......cycle?

Degsy · 16-10-2007 01:50PM

SetantaL wrote: »

Um.......cycle?

And get milled by irate car drivers?I dont think so..

dame · 16-10-2007 01:50PM

SetantaL wrote: »

Um.......cycle?

Or.....Um......walk?

People are far too lazy and would rather get the luas or bus and complain. :rolleyes:

Degsy · 16-10-2007 01:52PM

Slow Motion wrote: »

I friggin hate gettin this bus (everyday), you forgot to mention the half a dozen skangers upstairs at the back smoking hash and playing that bleedin' hamster ringtone at full volume :mad:

I havnt seen anybody smoking on that bus for a good while,at least not in the morning.I had words with abunch of scanger girls afew weeks back who were writing all over the place with markers.I got a bit of abuse but i made my point and they backed down.That fukking chipmunk music is on the bus every morning though,i dont know how even they can bear to listen to it.

Dragan · 16-10-2007 01:53PM

dame wrote: »

People are far too lazy and would rather get the luas or bus and complain. :rolleyes:

Bit of an over generalisation don't you think?

Working two jobs and going to college at night can limit my time somewhat, and sometimes i need to get where i am going fast. As such, the Luas and the Taxi do the job for me.

Shame on me.

Latchy · 16-10-2007 02:00PM

=syklops;54211815]Some day im going to write a thread on the feminist, militant creatures which make up most irish females I have met between the ages of 12 and 30 in the last few years. It seems you have just experienced one.

I look forward to that thread LOL

super_furry · 16-10-2007 02:03PM

dumbyearbook wrote: »

I was going to make this point, a redliner earlier said that loads of guys give their seats up, the 'goys' on the Green line however would have less propensity to do so now call me bold for such an outburst but i reckon there is some truth in it.

From my experience, this is defiantely true. I regularly travel on both the red and green lines during rush hours - I live in Kingswood and my girlfriend lives in Ranelagh. It would be common for people to offer up their seats on the red line to anyone elderly, expecting or with a child. I rarely see this happen on the green line and often old people are left standing while 20 something guys sit staring out the window.

RuggieBear · 16-10-2007 02:05PM

Degsy wrote: »

What bugs me lots is people(usually foreign on the 40d),using bags to take up the entire seat beside them and in some cases the seat in front of them too.I often bring my gym bag to work and politeness tells me to put it on the floor under the seat in front of me.On a couple of occasions i've seen people with thier legs outstretched along a seat and a bag in front of them,headphones on and audibly tutting when you ask them to move.

I get the 40d every day. i'll leave my bag beside me till someone wants to sit down.

I have no qualms asking someone to move their stuff and no one should have any qualms asking me.

Degsy · 16-10-2007 02:56PM

RuggieBear wrote: »

I get the 40d every day. i'll leave my bag beside me till someone wants to sit down.

I have no qualms asking someone to move their stuff and no one should have any qualms asking me.

Why not put it on the floor?Some people are too shy or maybe intimidated to ask.Anyway they shouldnt have to,seats are for people,not baggage.

Hellm0 · 16-10-2007 03:02PM

Degsy wrote: »

Some people are too shy or maybe intimidated to ask.

Thats the aim really.

Pompey Magnus · 16-10-2007 03:13PM

I was waiting for the Cork - Dublin bus a couple of weeks ago. When the bus arrived a bloke went to walk through the queue to put his bag in the hold when a foreign woman said, very loudly, "Excuse me, I am ahead of you in the line, don't try and jump".

This annoyed me for a couple of reasons. Firstly there was obviously only about 20 people waiting for the bus, which can hold about 50, so she was definitely going to get a seat even if he was trying to skip the line, and secondly the fella and myself were waiting long before she was, she just managed to get to near the bus doors first when it arrived. I was furious when I heard her say that. Obnoxious behaviour on public transport is not confined to the Irish.

Washout · 16-10-2007 03:20PM

Depeche_Mode wrote: »

I was waiting for the Cork - Dublin bus a couple of weeks ago. When the bus arrived a bloke went to walk through the queue to put his bag in the hold when a foreign woman said, very loudly, "Excuse me, I am ahead of you in the line, don't try and jump".

This annoyed me for a couple of reasons. Firstly there was obviously only about 20 people waiting for the bus, which can hold about 50, so she was definitely going to get a seat even if he was trying to skip the line, and secondly the fella and myself were waiting long before she was, she just managed to get to near the bus doors first when it arrived. I was furious when I heard her say that. Obnoxious behaviour on public transport is not confined to the Irish.

I used to get the number 8 bus from busaras on fridays...the queing system is a joke. you get there 20 minutes ahead of schedule and get in the queue then you have some one else forming a new queue on the other side of the door. people know there are two buses yet they panic that they wont get a seat on the first one becuase the second bus used to be about 1/2 n hour late. i think nowadays its fine from talking to ppl.

maybe bus eireann should have a queuing system like ryanair

dame · 16-10-2007 04:13PM

Dragan wrote: »

Bit of an over generalisation don't you think?

Working two jobs and going to college at night can limit my time somewhat, and sometimes i need to get where i am going fast. As such, the Luas and the Taxi do the job for me.

Shame on me.

Of course it's a generalisation!

However, very few people work two jobs and go to college at night. Those people who don't could afford an extra five/ten mins in the evening to stretch their legs and get some fresh air.

For example, taking the O'Connell Bridge to Heuston trip that I mentioned earlier. That's a twenty minute walk along the quays (or faster or slower depending on whether you power-walk or stroll).

The Luas from Jervis will take 8 minutes, or from Abbey St it takes about 10 minutes. Add to that the few minutes (up to 7) that you could be standing there waiting and that means you're spending 15 minutes for the pleasure of queueing on a crowded platform, pushing your way through (or waiting at the front of the platform for the next tram) and standing up pressed into smelly armpits for the whole way to Heuston.

The bus is a lot less exact. The wait could be anywhere up to half an hour and the trip could take anywhere between 6 minutes and 20 minutes but you'll still be squashed, not as badly as on the Luas, but squashed nonetheless.

In that case, why don't more people walk?

Actually, here's a suggestion for Dublin City Council:
Put up signs at all Luas stops (where walking is possible, might not be feasible for a couple of stops out around the Red Cow) giving information like "Walk here to X 3 minutes, here to Y 5 minutes", where X is the name of the next Luas stop and Y is the one after that. It may tempt more people to walk when they see the crowd waiting, know the Luas is not coming for another 4 minutes anyway, so they'd be as quicker or quicker to walk to the next stop. The following day they might walk one stop further and so on. It would ease congestion on the trams and would make people a little bit healthier. In Galway they have signs up at various busy junctions with the outline of a bike and the distance (in minutes) from the sign to various locations in the city by bike.

Kone · 16-10-2007 04:36PM

Mossy Monk wrote: »

The public is full of arseholes. The end.

Hear hear!

I thought Dublin was bad until I moved to London.

If you think people are rude in Dublin you should try the tube at rush hour! It's a warzone! :mad:

It took me a few weeks to get used to NOT apologizing to people who bumped INTO me

P_1 · 16-10-2007 04:43PM

dame wrote: »

Actually, here's a suggestion for Dublin City Council:
Put up signs at all Luas stops (where walking is possible, might not be feasible for a couple of stops out around the Red Cow) giving information like "Walk here to X 3 minutes, here to Y 5 minutes", where X is the name of the next Luas stop and Y is the one after that. It may tempt more people to walk when they see the crowd waiting, know the Luas is not coming for another 4 minutes anyway, so they'd be as quicker or quicker to walk to the next stop. The following day they might walk one stop further and so on. It would ease congestion on the trams and would make people a little bit healthier. In Galway they have signs up at various busy junctions with the outline of a bike and the distance (in minutes) from the sign to various locations in the city by bike.

Thats a great idea but tbh I can't see it happening.
Also if it does actually happen you could just end up with the same Jervis-esque situation a stop or 2 down the road.

dame · 16-10-2007 04:52PM

pithater1 wrote: »

Thats a great idea but tbh I can't see it happening.
Also if it does actually happen you could just end up with the same Jervis-esque situation a stop or 2 down the road.

Maybe but I think it's worth a try.

EDIT: And at least people would have gotten 5/10 mins exercise that they wouldn't normally get. They might start to enjoy walking and walk further next time......

Latchy · 16-10-2007 05:25PM

Quote =Kone;54213444

I thought Dublin was bad until I moved to London.

If you think people are rude in Dublin you should try the tube at rush hour! It's a warzone! :mad:

It took me a few weeks to get used to NOT apologizing to people who bumped INTO me

True, but in a city of so many millions it is nothing personell and theres no need to apologise

16-10-2007 05:58PM

dame wrote: »

Put up signs at all Luas stops giving information like "Walk here to X 3 minutes, here to Y 5 minutes", where X is the name of the next Luas stop and Y is the one after that. It may tempt more people to walk when they see the crowd waiting, know the Luas is not coming for another 4 minutes anyway, so they'd be as quicker or quicker to walk to the next stop.

'Cos then they're not guaranteed to get on the tram at all, it might well be full by the time it gets to you.** If i got the tram at Abbey St. all the time and it was always packed, I'd walk to Connolly stn. instead so that a) I'm more likely to get on the thing and b) more likely to get a seat. That way you won't have to smell anyone's armpits.

**I have no idea what it's like trying to get on the Luas at a busy time, I'm trying to use a Dublin Bus analogy here in that it's better off to go to the terminus, 'cos the fuller the bus is, the less likely it's gonna be that you get on the feckin' thing. This may or may not be the case with the LUAS, but i've definitely seen people left stranded on DART platforms on match days because of lack of space.

16-10-2007 06:08PM

dame wrote:

Actually, here's a suggestion for Dublin City Council:
Put up signs at all Luas stops (where walking is possible, might not be feasible for a couple of stops out around the Red Cow) giving information like "Walk here to X 3 minutes, here to Y 5 minutes", where X is the name of the next Luas stop and Y is the one after that.

And lose out on fares? Never!

qdawg86 · 12-04-2011 10:34PM

I totally agree. So many people are incredibly rude and nasty these days. Its so uncalled for. Basic manners are disappearing everywhere. I think its because people are more unhappy with themselves these days and they tend to take it out on others- and then there's the knock on effect- its a vicious circle.

Society seems to be obsessed basking in the unhappiness of others.

whiskeyman · 12-04-2011 10:43PM

qdawg86 wrote: »

Society seems to be obsessed basking in the unhappiness of others.

That, and digging up 3 1/2 year old threads!

admiralofthefleet · 12-04-2011 10:45PM

run, run, zombies!!!!!

steve9859 · 12-04-2011 10:57PM

Kone wrote: »

Hear hear!

I thought Dublin was bad until I moved to London.

If you think people are rude in Dublin you should try the tube at rush hour! It's a warzone! :mad:

It took me a few weeks to get used to NOT apologizing to people who bumped INTO me

But in London everyone accepts that that is what it is - a war zone. But at the same time, no-one gets annoyed with each other. No need to apologise and there is a tube culture despite the cramming at rush hour. Anyone from a pinstriped businessman to a student would get up to give their seat to someone that cant stand well. And the atmosphere is fine.

I think the Luas at rush-hour more unpleasant than the london underground - people just dont quite get it yet I suppose, and get p*ssed off with being crammed into a small space. Definately a larger proportion of ignorant people on the Luas compared to the tube

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