Rude People on the Luas

elmyra

Have just recently started at a new college so having commuted by car for 3 years I've switched over to taking the Luas. Have been really shocked at how rude people are. I get on at Balally in the mornings - early enough on the route that you can just hop on and it's not too packed but too late to get a seat. Once it gets to Windy Arbour the tram is packed though. The other morning a businessman pushed his way on at Cowper (I think) when the tram was already fairly packed and then when more people tried to board at Ranelagh loudly announced "It can only fit so many people, it's not a Serbian camp!' I was really shocked tbh. I know it's a pain in the ass when you're pressed up against people you neither know nor wish to know, but in fairness that guy pushed his way on and everyone is trying to get to work/college etc. It's not their fault that they live at Ranelagh etc and have no hope of getting a tram that has any decent amount of space.

I'm also really surprised at how few people bother to give up their seats to the old/pregnant women etc. I also hold out for a minute to see if anyone else does because I have a million medical problems that mean standing for the journey isn't a good idea, but inevitably end up giving my seat up when nobody else does and end up feeling awful. I really hate getting stares from people when I'm too sick to stand for the journey too, they automatically assume that you're a mannerless student who wouldn't do a good deed.

The worst part of the whole experience though is that I'm a complete short arse and I can't reach the overhead handrail and sometimes people wont move to let you hold one of the floor-to-ceiling ones so you end up trying to balance your way in to the Green all the while being the exact height of everyone else's mingin' armpits.

I really miss driving with the radio and an apple and the heaters on on a rainy morning! I have to say I don't prefer drivng because public transport is awful which is the usual complaint, I just think that other people leave a lot to be desired....

AARRRGH

I know.

Sometimes I wonder if the basics of society broke down, for example, if there were no more Gardai, how ****ed we'd all be.

It seems there are some good people in the world, and then there are loads of really selfish, depresses-me-to-be-human people.

The Bollox

Ireland just changed too quickly and the people are finding it hard to cope. that's my opinion and I'm sticking to it. you will be very hard pressed to find a steriotypical Irish person: friendly and accepting. now we're a bunch of xenophobic a$$holes

Jesus Wept

elmyra wrote:

It's not their fault that they live at Ranelagh etc

Ah tis..

Aard

If you get a seat, consider yourself lucky and keep it. You're not obliged to give it away, and complaining that others won't/don't do it isn't helping anybody. If you're really short then say 'excuse me' loudly or alternatively just barge your way to a handrail; no point compromising your safety just out of politeness. It's a 15 minute journey - don't let it get you down.

Tar.Aldarion

LUAS LUAS DRINKY DRINKY, GOD IS A DJ. hmal

mikemac

Whats worse is when you try to get off and people just start piling in.:mad:
Jervis is a great example of this

People pratically throw themselves in the door in the hope of getting a seat but if they let the exiting passengers out first, they might have more chance

Solar

Elmyra, Your guilty of the very thing you hate others doing......
If your sitting down, then you hate it when people look to you to give up your seat but when your standing you hate it when people are sitting down and not giving up their seat. Slight double standard there I think.

Also, I get on the Luas at Tallaght and lots ( and I mean lots ) of men get on and don't take a seat so others ( old woman, pregnant woman etc etc ) can get a seat.

Mossy Monk

The public is full of arseholes. The end.

luckat

Elmyra - You're so right. When we don't help each other - give a seat to someone who's pregnant or old or tired or weak, treat each other with kindness and courtesy - it's like sand in the gears. Things work better when we're kind.

Dyr

dunno about the luas but people on packed buses who think the seat beside them is for their poxy manbag or whatever are becoming all to common, they need to die horribly.

the_syco

Bambi wrote:

dunno about the luas but people on packed buses who think the seat beside them is for their poxy manbag or whatever are becoming all to common, they need to die horribly.

Sit down regardless. If it's in your way, put it on the seat behind you:D

Me, I just barge onto thetrain, myself. I'm tall, and I use it to get onto the train. F**k everyone else. I'm not going to be late just cos there's no room (note: there won't be room on the train untill the 9:47am train. I get the 7:30am train).

elmyra

Solar wrote:

Elmyra, Your guilty of the very thing you hate others doing......
If your sitting down, then you hate it when people look to you to give up your seat but when your standing you hate it when people are sitting down and not giving up their seat. Slight double standard there I think.

Also, I get on the Luas at Tallaght and lots ( and I mean lots ) of men get on and don't take a seat so others ( old woman, pregnant woman etc etc ) can get a seat.

I couldn't give a crap if nobody gives me their seat. If I don't get a seat when I get on then so be it, I'm not pregnant or old and I don't look like I need it. I'd just like to be able to get within a non-arm-breaking distance of a handrail.

SimpleSam06

Do you not find the horrible discomfort of the Luas is alleviated by the opportunity groping of young wans though?

Driver 8

The Luas is the tool of the devil.....when you don't get a seat

Been using it every week day for just over two years and it tends to bring out the worst in people. Then again, maybe those people are just arseholes all the time. All I will say is, in my experience, and certainly not wanting to tar everyone with this brush, the more "shirt and tie" the people, the ruder they are on the Luas (and indeed, train)

Not including everyone in that! Just observing that the worst mannered people I've encountered on it have been well-dressed and...professional looking

Varkov

The morning trains from mynooth out are pretty bad. I get on at the stop after mynooth and the seats are usually allready full :mad: But by the time it gets to coolmine its like a rugby scrum when people try to get on.
Had this arsehole standing beside me on the way in today, breathing very heavily into my face, making me feel physiclly sick.
So I say to him rather loudly "If your not gonna brush your teeth, would you stop panting in my face" He chose to ignore me, but he started breathing through his nose :rolleyes:

Onikage

SimpleSam06 wrote:

Do you not find the horrible discomfort of the Luas is alleviated by the opportunity groping of young wans though?

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SimpleSam06

Onikage wrote:

Welcome to Japan

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Actually I was talking to Elmyra.

Dyr

the_syco wrote:

Sit down regardless. If it's in your way, put it on the seat behind you:D

Me, I just barge onto thetrain, myself. I'm tall, and I use it to get onto the train. F**k everyone else. I'm not going to be late just cos there's no room (note: there won't be room on the train untill the 9:47am train. I get the 7:30am train).

I get on at the terminus so its never a problem for me, but im a self righteous fecker and i only have to see the c**t in front of me hogging two seats while others are standing and i'll have to resist the urge to punch em in the back of the head for the whole journey.

yesterday on the number 4 some dube wearing D4 type was taking up both double seats, feet up on the one facing him and his two bags on the other two seats. the bus was half empty but i still wanted to take a picture of him just to annoy him (and post it on boards).

And then throttle him

elmyra

SimpleSam06 wrote:

Do you not find the horrible discomfort of the Luas is alleviated by the opportunity groping of young wans though?

Eh...no for a number of reasons, least among them the fact that I'm not into teh wimmins.

Hellm0

Bambi wrote:

dunno about the luas but people on packed buses who think the seat beside them is for their poxy manbag or whatever are becoming all to common, they need to die horribly.

My manbag has more worth to me then the comfort of the slackjawed excuses for humanity who might take the oportunity to sit beside me if it wasnt placed neatly on the seat. Peasants should know their place!

mickoneill30

I've been getting Dublin Bus for the last year. When did coughing all over the back of someones head become acceptable? Each time it's happened to me I've had a brief (loud) chat with the person responsible and it's like it never occured to them. I used to get the bus from about 1994 - 2001 and it never happened to me once. Last year I got a job that meant the bus was handier and it's happened about 6 times (with the odd sneeze thrown in). What's changed?

Archeron

mickoneill30 wrote:

I've been getting Dublin Bus for the last year. When did coughing all over the back of someones head become acceptable? Each time it's happened to me I've had a brief (loud) chat with the person responsible and it's like it never occured to them. I used to get the bus from about 1994 - 2001 and it never happened to me once. Last year I got a job that meant the bus was handier and it's happened about 6 times (with the odd sneeze thrown in). What's changed?

Did you grow a target design into your hair in the meantime?

mickoneill30

Either that or my head looks like a hanky.

Washout

micmclo wrote:

Whats worse is when you try to get off and people just start piling in.:mad:
Jervis is a great example of this

People pratically throw themselves in the door in the hope of getting a seat but if they let the exiting passengers out first, they might have more chance

getting a seat at the Jervis stop??? ROFL, your lucky to get on there in the evneings

big b

The Bollox wrote:

Ireland just changed too quickly and the people are finding it hard to cope.

Agree 100%

DonkeyStyle \o/

Varkov wrote:

Had this arsehole standing beside me on the way in today, breathing very heavily into my face, making me feel physiclly sick.
So I say to him rather loudly "If your not gonna brush your teeth, would you stop panting in my face" He chose to ignore me, but he started breathing through his nose :rolleyes:

Yeah, what an asshole, breathing no less... tbh I think you should have made a bigger scene.

mise_me_fein

This is not a new phenomenon, a large percentage of southside Dubliners have always been what a regular person like myself would call pr!cks.

thelordofcheese

elmyra wrote:

The other morning a businessman pushed his way on at Cowper (I think) when the tram was already fairly packed and then when more people tried to board at Ranelagh loudly announced "It can only fit so many people, it's not a Serbian camp!' I was really shocked tbh.

really? i found that to be pretty funny.

I'd have more respect for the guy trying to stop 40 people cramming themselves into a space designed for about 6 than i would for anyone baaaawing about how mean he was to people.

Hrududu

Anyway you can walk from the Luas stop in Ranelagh to Stephen's Green in 15 minutes.

Gazza22

I understand, i know what it's like *Trying* to peacefully go to college during rush hour on the Luas.

Common courtesy for some people just seems to go out the window when they board [board by barging through people] the Luas. I don't blame people getting seriously *issed off and having a go at people at times.

January

Bambi wrote: »

yesterday on the number 4 some dube wearing D4 type was taking up both double seats, feet up on the one facing him and his two bags on the other two seats. the bus was half empty but i still wanted to take a picture of him just to annoy him (and post it on boards).

I get the number 4 every day and at rush hour it does always be packed to the hilt! I get a seat in the mornings but in the evenings it's luck of the draw!

People are rude on busses most of the time, they don't bother movin if your tryin to get down those artic busses because the driver doesn't open the middle exit doors!

MoominPapa

The simple fact of the matter is the middle class are far ruder than the working/upper classes. Their insecurity means they cannot act spontaneously, which acts of kindness to strangers on public transport require. Proles and toffs act more on instinct. The reason this country is going down the toilet and grannies and the expectant cannot get a seat on the green line is due to the expansion of the middle classes.
Just the way it is

Varkov

MoominPapa wrote: »

The simple fact of the matter is the middle class are far ruder than the working/upper classes.

Nah, anyone can be a d**k.

Earthhorse

MoominPapa wrote: »

The simple fact of the matter is the middle class are far ruder than the working/upper classes. Their insecurity means they cannot act spontaneously, which acts of kindness to strangers on public transport require. Proles and toffs act more on instinct. The reason this country is going down the toilet and grannies and the expectant cannot get a seat on the green line is due to the expansion of the middle classes.
Just the way it is

This very morn, on the green line no less, I saw a man immediately offer his seat to an elderly gentleman as he got on the Luas. The old man politely declined as he was getting off at the next stop.

It's the rush hour and common indecency that makes people rude, not some imaginary class, so put that in your pipe and smoke it!

Latchy

Reminds me of my last vist to dublin 2 years ago , not being familier with how to purchase a ticket for the Luas, i was inserting some euros in the machine opposite collins bks under the gaze of this 20 somthing female who had also inserted money for her ticket , on seeing me remove her ticket to hand to her she said in a very loud and aggressive tone of vioice ' No.... thats my ticket ' under the assumtion i was going to steal it and i thought ........' ah yes, i am definetly home now .:)

Latchy

Quote Earthorse - It's the rush hour and common indecency that makes people rude, not some imaginary class, so put that in your pipe and smoke it!

True , manners are somthing some people have to learn regardless of class .......:D

r3nu4l

SimpleSam06 wrote: »

Do you not find the horrible discomfort of the Luas is alleviated by the opportunity groping of young wans though?

Were you in Sligo last night by any chance?

OP, I agree with you entirely. I recently got a bus in Bordeaux and was happily surprised to see people of all ages giving up seats for elderly and infirm people. It was a bit of a culture shock to be honest!

Latchy

OP, I agree with you entirely. I recently got a bus in Bordeaux and was happily surprised to see people of all ages giving up seats for elderly and infirm people. It was a bit of a culture shock to be honest

When i grew up in ireland during the 60s and 70s that was the norm so if its not like that know then that says a lot about the country .I am a Dubliner but even i am shocked by the lack of basic manners when i return home ,and it take a lot to shock me ...

Latchy

=Hellm0;54178518]My manbag has more worth to me then the comfort of the slackjawed excuses for humanity who might take the oportunity to sit beside me if it wasnt placed neatly on the seat. Peasants should know their place!

LOL, i had to laugh when i seen this because this only happend recently .I was sitting on a packed double decker bus late one afternoon when this coloured chap got on with 4 or 5 large shopping bags and proceeded to put his bags beside him .Lo and behold this large middle aged chap gets on ,obiosuly looking for a seat, see's yer man with his bags and politley asks him to remove them so he can sit.The black man looked back at him in astonishment as if to say..... '' are you talking to me ? ' (aka rob de niro) so our friend repeated his request only this time a little bit loudly this time ' move your bleeding bags will ya ? ,so reluctently yer man piles his bags on top .The short journy continues and the two have now locked horns .The elderly man gets up to get off as justs as he alights from the bus say to yer man '' my father didn't die at normandy so you could come over here and leave your bags on my seat '' laugh? yes the whole bus did ....

stovelid

I'm surprised that people would even bother cramming on to a Luas in Ranelagh. If it's not raining, why not walk into town?

watna

I thought about this thread on my packed dart home this evening. i got on in Pearse and there was these two skanger guys. one was sitting on the floor with his legs spread out across the floor. Everyone was squished around him and looking at him but all he kept saying to his mate (in the strongest knacker accent I've ever heard, why does every second word need to be the f word?!) I'm not f-ing getting up, why f-ing should i, I'm not f-ing being crammed, all the arseholes can go f themselves. He, of course was shouting this at the top of his voice. So, because we'd all been so discourteous as to get on the dart when he was on it and make it crowded we're arseholes. I was so fuming, I'm squished every morning on the way in and on the way home so i can go to work and he's annoyed that the dart is too full for him to sit around on his arse and drink his can of lager in peace. There's been a lot of anti-scumbag threads recently and I haven't taken much notice but this seriously annoyed me today.

comongethappy

Something that really irritates me to no end on the luas... when people stand in the aisles - especially women - they won't move into the middle of the aisle, because they want to plant their arse between the two seats by the handrail! Nope, heaven forbide that they might have to stand properly and outstrech their arm to hold on to the rail!

I'll always get on and politely ask if I can get by, so I can stand in the centre and free up room for other passangers to get on. The dirty looks that women give me for inconveniencing them! I'm fairly tall and I have quite good balance, so it's no issue for me to stand in the centre and stretch out my arm to hold the railing if need be. I can understand shorter people not feeling comfortable doing so, but some people really need to cop on, because everyone needs to try to get into work on time!

Also, yes, it's a shame how some people do not give up seats. Granted, sometimes I'm lost in my own world reading, etc, and I don't notice, but when I do I'll always offer.

phasers

all the decent members of society can afford taxis

Driver 8

Great contribution...at least you're not on the luas

leninbenjamin

bah.... stop yeer whining. if it bothers ye that much then cycle.

* grumble... lazy gits... grumble ... lucky to have a bleedin luas... grumble...*

dumbyearbook

MoominPapa wrote: »

The simple fact of the matter is the middle class are far ruder than the working/upper classes. Their insecurity means they cannot act spontaneously, which acts of kindness to strangers on public transport require. Proles and toffs act more on instinct. The reason this country is going down the toilet and grannies and the expectant cannot get a seat on the green line is due to the expansion of the middle classes.
Just the way it is

I was going to make this point, a redliner earlier said that loads of guys give their seats up, the 'goys' on the Green line however would have less propensity to do so now call me bold for such an outburst but i reckon there is some truth in it.

The more WC the more manners. in certain situations now...not saying everyone on the red line is WC either btw

D18 resident here from the sticks btw

blow69

Sorry to get slightly off topic here but a few friends and I were using the Cork city bus service(which is a travesty!!!) today and it was CROWDED.Peoples faces were squashed up against the windows.My friend commented loudly that it was like those buses/trains you see in India with like a million people hanging off the side.Those who heard it were in fits of laughing.So funny......And whats worse is when someone at the back has to get off and everyone has to move and get their feet stamped on and their faces bashed with the person's bag.

Latchy

LMAO peoples faces squashed up against the window ? now that is funny

Archeron

I like the Luas. I've only used it on my holidays to go from the bus station to the "MUSEUM" stop, and from tallaght to the pub. Its nice to have to have reliable light rail system that is some what efficent.

SUNGOD

this post is two days late but the riggers post on page 1 made tea come out my nose .giggling and dribbling as we speak