Is taxi Driving a skilled profession???

LegacyUser · 18-09-2007 7:50pm

19 years driving a taxi also no points or accidents..could it be that you are the bad driver?
Most people would know to keep well back from a taxi due to the fact they answer to a hail on the street.
How many of you never had an accident? How many of you have points on your licence?
My god just look around the city any weekend night and see how you guys park?

I think we have a great skill... we get lots of you drunks home dont we?

dunno why my other post was removed... guess your dad is a cop huh? try take a joke.

Victor · 18-09-2007 8:00pm

Barry Norman wrote:

dunno why my other post was removed... guess your dad is a cop huh? try take a joke.

It was off-topic, so I moved it to Humour.

LegacyUser · 18-09-2007 9:58pm

My picture was right on topic as it was the same picture that the guy who started the post was talking about.

ask him!

To be honest he came here for support... by god did he get it - hook line and sinker.

He more or less told everybody on the other board his isp then was all hyped up when the word NTL was mentioned... he blamed that picture and said it was a cookie

All these boards use cookies right? yeh you know they do its in the settings in the admin cp

its no big deal ..but to this guy he was all paranoid and blamed a funny picture.

So maybe you should let everybody test and see the picture... its just that a funny picture.

Anybody here ever stop to think why he would start that topic here? if you were a taxi driver would you start a topic like that?

He is using this board to try degrade taxi drivers... a shameful act on his part.

This guy is the same guy who said all people from the Travelling community should be killed.
The same guy who said people from finglas eat their own babies.

He is one of the Most Disgusting People i have seen on the internet.

If you plan on removing parts of my post maybe you should delete the lot Mr Mod

John R · 19-09-2007 12:02am

Barry Norman wrote:

My picture was right on topic as it was the same picture that the guy who started the post was talking about. ask him!

To be honest he came here for support... by god did he get it - hook line and sinker.

He came here for the sole purpose of having a go at people on another website such as yourself.

Most of us here neither know or care what significance that picture has to a discussion on another website that I for one had never visited before.

As far as the discussion on this board that picture was off-topic.

Barry Norman wrote:

He more or less told everybody on the other board his isp then was all hyped up when the word NTL was mentioned... he blamed that picture and said it was a cookie

All these boards use cookies right? yeh you know they do its in the settings in the admin cp its no big deal ..but to this guy he was all paranoid and blamed a funny picture.

So maybe you should let everybody test and see the picture... its just that a funny picture.

I must have missed the part where boards.ie had been nominated an internet arguement resolution centre for random messageboards.

Barry Norman wrote:

Anybody here ever stop to think why he would start that topic here? if you were a taxi driver would you start a topic like that?

He is using this board to try degrade taxi drivers... a shameful act on his part.

No, he is using this board to have a go at yourself and others from taxi.ie and trying to drag boards.ie posters into his pathetic little webfight.

Barry Norman wrote:

This guy is the same guy who said all people from the Travelling community should be killed.
The same guy who said people from finglas eat their own babies.

He is one of the Most Disgusting People i have seen on the internet.

Frankly I don't give a fúck what either one of you said on taxi.ie and I have a big problem with your flame war from there being played out here.

If neither of you want to contribute to boards.ie apart from trolling and flaming each other then I suggest you go back to taxi.ie as it has SFA to do with any of us here.

Barry Norman wrote:

If you plan on removing parts of my post maybe you should delete the lot Mr Mod

The Mod explained why he moved, NOT REMOVED, part of your post. Having had a quick look at the message board on taxi.ie it is obvious that the way it is run is very different to boards.ie.

Here the mods will move off-topic posts and threads if they feel they don't belong in a particular board, it is to keep the boards ordered and is not in particular a slight against the poster.

I should also point out that the abusive tone and content of many of the posts on taxi.ie levelled at other posters is not allowed here so if either of you intend to stay here bear that in mind.

Spook_ie · 19-09-2007 5:46am

Terrontress wrote:

Taxable Income!

Taxi drivers!

Don't make me laugh!

Meaning what exactly? I assume this is some kind of supposition without any factual evidence to back it up. If you would like to read through a few of the revenues defaulter lists I think you will find that taxi drivers are very much in the minority on those lists.

I would suggest that the whole thread be moved from Transport to the thunderdome so I can let rip

Terrontress · 19-09-2007 6:40am

Spook_ie wrote:

Meaning what exactly? I assume this is some kind of supposition without any factual evidence to back it up. If you would like to read through a few of the revenues defaulter lists I think you will find that taxi drivers are very much in the minority on those lists.

I would suggest that the whole thread be moved from Transport to the thunderdome so I can let rip

I suppose it is a part of most self-employed people but taxi drivers are well known for not paying their taxes.

Just because they are not on the revenue defaulter lists doesn't mean they don't default on paying all the tax they owe.

Ham'nd'egger · 19-09-2007 11:35am

Terrontress wrote:

I suppose it is a part of most self-employed people but taxi drivers are well known for not paying their taxes.

Just because they are not on the revenue defaulter lists doesn't mean they don't default on paying all the tax they owe.

To renew any State Licence, including a PSV, a taxi driver needs to produce a Tax Clearance Certificate (TC1). These are only issued by Revenue on the premise that taxes liable are either paid up fully or arrangement for same is in place. Taxi drivers can't work unless their PSV is in date (Insurance won't be issued without seeing same), and this won't be renewed if their TC1 is not issued by revenue so this brushes your theory out of the water. :cool:

jlang · 19-09-2007 3:05pm

(This should be a taxi thread rather than a tax thread but) is that not the point of underdeclaring income to avoid/evade tax - i.e. keeping the Revenue happy with what you do declare and pay so they won't look for more and give you your tax clearance?

Ham'nd'egger · 19-09-2007 3:25pm

jlang wrote:

(This should be a taxi thread rather than a tax thread but) is that not the point of underdeclaring income to avoid/evade tax - i.e. keeping the Revenue happy with what you do declare and pay so they won't look for more and give you your tax clearance?

I agree with the theory of what you are saying; the logic of it however is a little shaky.

Revenue have an expected figure as to what any industry should be declaring as taxable income and anything that they may claim relief on; taxi drivers are no different. Audits and regular spot checks are also carried out, more so over the last few years. If the figures declared by some drivers were well out of their reckoning (either higher or lower), then they will check it up; ditto for obscure claims. You would be suprised how much you can claim through legitimately when self employed.

Of course, it takes a skilled person (My accountant!) to do all this!

Spook_ie · 19-09-2007 5:32pm

Hamndegger wrote:

I agree with the theory of what you are saying; the logic of it however is a little shaky.

Revenue have an expected figure as to what any industry should be declaring as taxable income and anything that they may claim relief on; taxi drivers are no different. Audits and regular spot checks are also carried out, more so over the last few years. If the figures declared by some drivers were well out of their reckoning (either higher or lower), then they will check it up; ditto for obscure claims. You would be suprised how much you can claim through legitimately when self employed.

Of course, it takes a skilled person (My accountant!) to do all this!

Seeing as I do my own accounts and I am a taxi driver and I do have qualifications from my life prior to becoming a taxi driver does that make me a qualified taxi driver? or is just that as I've said in previous conversations that the world is divided into 2 groups

a The people who hate taxi drivers so much that they wouldn't P on them if they were on fire and therefore would complain about anything and anyone. In fact they probably complained about the congestion being caused by all those taxis taking the kids out for the Ambrosia outing

b The people who think that taxi drivers are on the whole a reasonabale bunch, who do a good job, often under difficult circumstances but just ( as with most groups including boards.ie ) have a vocal/distasteful minority

Spook_ie · 19-09-2007 5:39pm

Terrontress wrote:

I suppose it is a part of most self-employed people but taxi drivers are well known for not paying their taxes.

Just because they are not on the revenue defaulter lists doesn't mean they don't default on paying all the tax they owe.

If you have proof that all these taxi drivers are avoiding their legitimate tax payments then it is your duty to report them to the revenue authoritys, of course if you have no proof and are merely bandying insults against the taxi profession then you are obviously a troll and as such are worthy of being ignored.

Might I advise you peruse the tax defaulters list where you would probably find more freelance journalists listed there than taxi drivers

Terrontress · 19-09-2007 7:59pm

If you were to be out in the car and buy a sandwich, paper and drink. Would you buy that from money on which income tax has been paid?

If your wife asks you to pick up a few bits and pieces on the way home, do you put it on your debit card or lift it out of your takings for the day?

Taxi drivers have a very loose relationship with taxation.

Terrontress · 19-09-2007 8:03pm

Spook_ie wrote:

Might I advise you peruse the tax defaulters list where you would probably find more freelance journalists listed there than taxi drivers

Listen, two wrongs don't make a right.

Funny thing with taxi drivers is that I don't think I have ever met a bad one although I don't use them that often. Every taxi driver I have got has been decent. Some times friends I have been travelling with have been rude and I have been embarrassed for their sake and tried to apologise to the driver. Sometimes personal hygeine leaves a bit to be desired but that does not make them bad people.

But I cannot accept that the majority of taxi drivers are 100% legit in their taxation. You can see taxi drivers in shops pulling out wads of cash to pay for things. Thousands.

Or perhaps buying things before you pay income tax on your earnings is not income tax fraud?

I think taxi drivers just see it as a perk of the job. Like driving up the bus lanes.

Calina · 19-09-2007 9:06pm

Terrontress wrote:

Listen, two wrongs don't make a right.

Funny thing with taxi drivers is that I don't think I have ever met a bad one although I don't use them that often. Every taxi driver I have got has been decent. Some times friends I have been travelling with have been rude and I have been embarrassed for their sake and tried to apologise to the driver. Sometimes personal hygeine leaves a bit to be desired but that does not make them bad people.

But I cannot accept that the majority of taxi drivers are 100% legit in their taxation. You can see taxi drivers in shops pulling out wads of cash to pay for things. Thousands.

Or perhaps buying things before you pay income tax on your earnings is not income tax fraud?

I think taxi drivers just see it as a perk of the job. Like driving up the bus lanes.

Far be it from me to be holier than thou etc etc etc, but this is not really fair. Ultimately, the self employed get to pay their tax once or maybe twice a year if they pre-pay some of it. What matters is that they pay all of it. You appear to be implying that no taxi driver should spend any money at all that they've earned until they've settled with the Revenue Commissioners for the year. For a full time taxi driver, that's rather impractical. It's impractical for all those other self employed people too. In other words, buying stuff before you've paid your income tax - if you are self employed - is not actually income taxi fraud provided you declare all your earnings. Failure to declare is the problem, not actually spending some money you've earned.

Disclosure: not a taxi driver, nor self employed.

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On the substantive issue of whether taxi driving is a skilled occupation or not, I'm minded to close this thread. It hasn't - from what I can see - been constructive.

Is taxi Driving a skilled profession???

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