Irish patriotism?

estebancambias · 17-08-2007 07:00PM

Ban me for what exactly? Why do you bother viewing my threads? I get hate because I think a little differently from you, I suggest you go and post in such educated threads such as 'how often do you poo? and 'when does being a milf begin'.
It appears to me, that they are the threads that most suit you, you know where you don't have to use any of that brain of yours.

SimpleSam06 wrote:

Nonsense, I find this individual to be an excellent troll, piquant, rich meaty flavour, with just a hint of mulberries, and a crisp refreshing aftertaste. He loses a point on the arrangement, but all in all, a solid first effort.

However, can everyone stop feeding him and somebody please ban him.

homah_7ft · 17-08-2007 07:01PM

estebancambias wrote:

Ban me for what exactly? Why do you bother viewing my threads? I get hate because I think a little differently from you, I suggest you go and post in such educated threads such as 'how often do you poo? and 'when does being a milf begin'.
It appears to me, that they are the threads that most suit you, you know where you don't have to use any of that brain of yours.

This is AH sir.

estebancambias · 17-08-2007 07:06PM

Yes ok, but then when I make a thread about Timothy McVeigh(with links) I am called a troll. Oh and yes a troll is also someone who believes they are always right, I don't deny that, in fact I'm extremely argumentative. Some like it, others don't.

I just want to know the reasons behind why I should be banned.

constellation · 17-08-2007 07:06PM

estebancambias wrote:

Ban me for what exactly? Why do you bother viewing my threads? I get hate because I think a little differently from you, I suggest you go and post in such educated threads such as 'how often do you poo? and 'when does being a milf begin'.
It appears to me, that they are the threads that most suit you, you know where you don't have to use any of that brain of yours.

Anyone know if there is a Godwin-like rule for use of the word 'poo'?

TwentyOneEleven · 17-08-2007 07:09PM

estebancambias wrote:

2111 I'm sure I read one of your posts on the paranormal board, were you said, you wanted someone to touch your 'private area'.

No, I said that if they went down on me my vagina would tell their future.

estebancambias · 17-08-2007 07:11PM

You were banned from there right? For what reason exactly? Oh right, being a troll.

Terry · 17-08-2007 07:12PM

Here's an idea.
How about keeping this thread on topic.

gurramok · 17-08-2007 07:13PM

estebancambias wrote:

I would love if someone had the figures of how many 18-22 year olds actually did vote in 07 election, so if you can get them for me, that would be great.

When you get a few years older past that 18-22 age group and start working and paying your taxes, your view will change on things, you'll start to care what goes on around you when you try to manage the bills.

That said. nothing wrong being proud of where your from and what culture you practice, just don't force it on other people who don't want it.

TwentyOneEleven · 17-08-2007 07:14PM

estebancambias wrote:

You were banned from there right? For what reason exactly? Oh right, being a troll.

I was banned from there because the moderators were much too narrow-minded to comprehend my alternative takes on the paranormal.

estebancambias · 17-08-2007 07:17PM

gurramok, can you just explain your first point. As in just elaborate on it, I just want to see were your coming from because it sounds interesting.

Look my problem is I'm not proud of being Irish, however I am trying to be. I know it should be simple you either like the place or not, but not for me. I want to feel that love and connection with my country, but unfortunately I can't find it. Maby the army would help?

SimpleSam06 · 17-08-2007 07:18PM

estebancambias wrote:

Ban me for what exactly?

Trolling, to whit, someone who intentionally posts messages about sensitive topics constructed to cause controversy in an online community such as an online discussion forum in order to bait users into responding.

estebancambias wrote:

Why do you bother viewing my threads?

There are so many of them, its hard to avoid them at this stage.

estebancambias wrote:

I get hate because I think a little differently from you, I suggest you go and post in such educated threads such as 'how often do you poo? and 'when does being a milf begin'.

Education has nothing to do with it. You're trying to stir people up by posting deliberately flamebait-ey topics, which by the way is against the forum charter, and for excellent reasons:

Making the natives restless
- This is a catch-all rule for general trolling, bitching and similar. Certain posters have an ability to piss off large quanties of regulars on here. If a moderator feels that said poster is doing this intentionally or is the cause of the mess, then the poster can and will be banned. If this poster was being goaded by others, then they'll be the ones getting banned. This rule will hopefully put an end to the bitching going on in here of late.

Poo and milfs are not trolling, since they only stir up a very small minority of the viewing population (when combined at any rate). Threads like "I support Timothy McVeigh", and "Irish Patriotism-where is it gone" are a different bucket of beans entirely.

estebancambias · 17-08-2007 07:21PM

Oh ok, perhaps I misunderstood the whole point of this board, but I do not support McVeigh's actions one bit. There are things that does fascinate me about both McVeigh the man, and the 'terroist' but I won't be getting into that.

TwentyOneEleven · 17-08-2007 07:24PM

estebancambias wrote:

gurramok, can you just explain your first point. As in just elaborate on it, I just want to see were your coming from because it sounds interesting.

Look my problem is I'm not proud of being Irish, however I am trying to be. I know it should be simple you either like the place or not, but not for me. I want to feel that love and connection with my country, but unfortunately I can't find it. Maby the army would help?

Why the fúck do you want to feel that love and connection to Ireland? I mean ffs, it's just a mass of land. Love your neighbours, your friends, yore ma, your fúcking television but why do you need to love Ireland? I mean fúck, if you lived in China would you want to love that? If you lived in Mexico, would you want to love that? You probably would, and what exactly is the point? You just want to love it because you live here, and that's a retarded reason tbh. Don't ever try to love something. You either love it or you don't. I mean, christ.

SimpleSam06 · 17-08-2007 07:25PM

estebancambias wrote:

Oh ok, perhaps I misunderstood the whole point of this board, but I do not support McVeigh's actions one bit. There are things that does fascinate me about both McVeigh the man, and the 'terroist' but I won't be getting into that.

He was a lowbrow redneck who felt solidarity with the muppets in Waco and was riding the wife of his partner in crime, in all likelihood with that individual's assent. A class act all round, but I won't be getting into that. No more food for you, trolley!

thefinalstage · 17-08-2007 07:30PM

We the Irish as a whole have very little patriotism. We are neutral so no weird propoganda or foreign attacks on us to stir any up. Our history is full of worthless tales of people getting drunk and attacking the English. We never really had any true culture develop because we got our asses assimilated early on. Even the Irish language (which patriots seem to pride) was an import.

We have no reason for patriotism, we have no real identity and no culture of our own.

17-08-2007 07:34PM

estebancambias wrote:

gurramokLook my problem is I'm not proud of being Irish, however I am trying to be. I know it should be simple you either like the place or not, but not for me. I want to feel that love and connection with my country, but unfortunately I can't find it. Maby the army would help?

Would you like it if we were more like the states where everyone has the nations flags hanging from wherever they could put them?
How would being in the army help foster a love of your country?

Terry · 17-08-2007 07:35PM

thelastangryman wrote:

We the Irish as a whole have very little patriotism. We are neutral so no weird propoganda or foreign attacks on us to stir any up. Our history is full of worthless tales of people getting drunk and attacking the English. We never really had any true culture develop because we got our asses assimilated early on. Even the Irish language (which patriots seem to pride) was an import.

We have no reason for patriotism, we have no real identity and no culture of our own.

I think you need to bone up on your history, buddy.
There are buildings here dating back over 5,000 years.

estebancambias · 17-08-2007 07:39PM

McVeigh came from a middle-class home, just like you or I.

Also sorry, I never read the rules of this forum, so you can be assured this will be the last politically orientated thread by me.

Fremen · 17-08-2007 07:48PM

So, do you agree with me? or do you think that patiotism in Ireland is alive and well?

I'd like to get a more specific definition of exactly what you think patriotism is, so far you've just said 'pride in your country'. Pride about what, exactly? Is patriotism a good thing?

I think there's something to be said for having an interest in the history of your country, and any culture that goes along with it, but I don't think it's hugely important. No more important than, say, having an interest in literature. I certainly wouldn't look down on anyone who just didn't care.

However, most "patriots" I know are not exactly what I'd call "Gaeilgeoirs". They just have the attitude "I come frome zone of administration A, you come from zone of administration B. Therefore I am superior. Hooray!".

Hagar · 17-08-2007 07:49PM

estabancambias wrote:

you can be assured this will be the last politically orientated thread by me

Thank Christ for that.

kowloon · 17-08-2007 07:53PM

Who was it who said "patriotism is the belief that your country is the best because you live in it"? (thats the general idea of the quote, but i cant remember the wording or its origin)

SimpleSam06 · 17-08-2007 07:53PM

estebancambias wrote:

McVeigh came from a middle-class home, just like you or I.

Educate yourself, young man.

estebancambias wrote:

Also sorry, I never read the rules of this forum,

Whoops. As the victims of countless banhammers in the feedback forum can testify, that is no excuse whatsoever.

estebancambias wrote:

so you can be assured this will be the last politically orientated thread by me.

Its not the political element, its the "riling people up to get a response" element. Do what you like, I haven't reported any of your posts yet. I leave it in the capable hands of the Mods.

estebancambias · 17-08-2007 07:55PM

Eh man, America wanted to believe he was poor, somehow it could provide some comfort. Come on how could the typical middle class American boy come to murder so many of his own people?

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/people/shows/mcveigh/profile.html

And I never riled up anyone.

Blowfish · 17-08-2007 07:58PM

Irish pride is much higher than you'd think.

In my experience, when Irish people are talking to other Irish people they moan about the country, but when talking to non-nationals they say how great it is.

estebancambias · 17-08-2007 08:01PM

Interesting, thanks Blowfish for that.

_blank_ · 17-08-2007 08:04PM

I have plenty of Irish Pride.

Orange69 · 17-08-2007 08:04PM

Fremen wrote:

They just have the attitude "I come frome zone of administration A, you come from zone of administration B. Therefore I am superior. Hooray!".

This imo is one of the most annoying things about Ireland.. It goes on all over the country and can get nasty..

Irish person A - "Oh your from <insert region/are here>, what a ****-hole! lol!"
Irish person B - "Have you ever been there?"
Irish person A - "No why would i go to that ****-hole!"
etc...

And will someone ban the bunch of 'tards having the timothy mcveigh discussion, its completly off topic!

That is all..

estebancambias · 17-08-2007 08:05PM

That happens everywhere.

Collie D · 17-08-2007 08:07PM

Orange69 wrote:

Precisely the response i would expect.. The begrudgery and bitterness in the country is astounding!

Explain how that was begrudgery? I know nothing of you and vice versa. You may be studying for a PhD but for all you know I have already got one or I may have left school before the Junior Cert. Don't use a word if you don't have a context for it. My point was that I get fed up with people who constantly snipe at the country and think that everything is great wherever it is they choose to go to. Yes, this country has its faults but so do others.

Anyway, I'm sure this has been discussed ad infinitum so I'll leave it at that.

Orange69 · 17-08-2007 08:13PM

Collie D wrote:

Explain how that was begrudgery? I know nothing of you and vice versa. You may be studying for a PhD but for all you know I have already got one or I may have left school before the Junior Cert. Don't use a word if you don't have a context for it. My point was that I get fed up with people who constantly snipe at the country and think that everything is great wherever it is they choose to go to. Yes, this country has its faults but so do others.

Anyway, I'm sure this has been discussed ad infinitum so I'll leave it at that.

The point is that things are much better in other countries, USA, Australia, Canada, Netherlands, France etc... And when some one says, **** this i cant live in Ireland anymore im leaving to make a better life for myself..

All of a sudden they are open for attack..instead of asking ourselves why that person is leaving and what can we do to keep our talented youth in the country (other than chaining them into 40 year mortgages)..

Irish patriotism?

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