How much are you guys spending on supplements a month for weight gain?

SuprSi · 12-08-2007 05:34PM #1

I'm curious to know how much you guys spend a month on stuff like Protein and Creatine. Judging by the Maximuscle brochure, I'd be needing nearly €300 a month, which sounds crazy.

1 months protein or equivilant weight gain formula (whey?), 1 months Creatine - how much should I be expecting to pay?

PeakOutput · 12-08-2007 05:37PM

maxi muscle is generally considered over priced check out some of the irish websites for better value

tribulus · 12-08-2007 05:38PM

First of all put down the maximuscle brochure and then throw it out.

You don't really need weightgainer, you just need to eat more.

A 5lb tub of protein usually lasts me 6 weeks. You should be able to get it for 40-45E.

A 1kg tub of creatine lasts me 6months or so.

justsomebloke · 12-08-2007 06:21PM

go talk to Mickk in the supplement store on camden street or Jon in pronutrition in phibsboro and they will be able to give you better quality stuff and much cheaper prices.

Just remember food is your friend and the best thing for bulking up

g'em · 13-08-2007 08:10AM

tribulus wrote:

You don't really need weightgainer, you just need to eat more.

yes, yes, yes and ... yes. Eat above your calorie requirements and lift really heavy stuff.

I'm not oversimplifying, it is that straightforward. Protein powder is nothing mroe than a convenient way to get the exact same protein that you ingest when you eat any complete protein source: meat, milk and eggs.

Creatine doesn't make you gain weight at all - it may temproarily cause you to hold water, but its use is as an extra energy system while will help you lift more which will in turn help you get bigger if you eat more alongside it.

Make a list of clean foods you enjoy eating. If they aren't already on the list add lots of good oils (almond, sesame, walnut etc) and natural but butters - peanut, cashew, hazelnut - to get your good fats in and keep your calories high. Eat them a lot.

walt0r · 13-08-2007 06:34PM

~300 a month on supps

tribulus · 13-08-2007 07:04PM

walt0r wrote:

~300 a month on supps

Do you use steroids or igf-1 or something!?

Seriously I don't see how you need all of them, what's the breakdown?

walt0r · 13-08-2007 09:43PM

I'm in a rush so it's something like this: (this month I've bought **** all actually cos of exams I'm snowed under but usually...)
USN mass fuel - 80e
usn carb shake - 30e
animal pak + stak 2 + sometimes the pump - 70-110
eyeq (fish oils and helps me concentrate...raelly!!) - not sure, 20-30e
udos oil and floridix magnesium - 30e?

I spend a lot on this **** and it definitely helps me. And don't start goin "why dont u just eat food" I ****ing cant seem to find the time to get 6-7k cals of pure food into me during the day when I'm out and about, I find it easier slug a shake and take capsules.

smellslikeshoes · 14-08-2007 04:52AM

walt0r wrote:

I'm in a rush so it's something like this: (this month I've bought **** all actually cos of exams I'm snowed under but usually...)
USN mass fuel - 80e
usn carb shake - 30e
animal pak + stak 2 + sometimes the pump - 70-110
eyeq (fish oils and helps me concentrate...raelly!!) - not sure, 20-30e
udos oil and floridix magnesium - 30e?

I think spending 300 euro a month would make me find time to eat proper meals pretty quickly. I don't think theres that much difference between an expensive weight gainer and a normal protein shake with a cup of oats in it, cept a big difference in price. Unless your a competing bodybuilder 300 is overkill for most people.

walt0r · 14-08-2007 06:30AM

Yeah? Well then don't spend it

SuprSi · 14-08-2007 08:22AM

Thanks for the responses guys. What I think I'm hearing is that I should be able to get all the protein I need from a good diet, rather than supplements, and that Creatine will help me work harder and recover faster, which would definitely help.

One question though, seeing as I'll be doing my weights workout in the morning - would a protein shake or something similar not be of benefit immediately after the workout considering I won't be able to get anything with a lot of protein into me after it?

Linoge · 14-08-2007 01:46PM

SuprSi wrote:

One question though, seeing as I'll be doing my weights workout in the morning - would a protein shake or something similar not be of benefit immediately after the workout considering I won't be able to get anything with a lot of protein into me after it?

Carbs are the most important to eat after a workout. High GI like a banana is ideal. You could take a protein shake before or after your workout.

Esse85 · 14-08-2007 05:42PM

You dont need Animal pak, just take a multi vit.

Seriously what a waste of money.

You obviously have no regard for money or your getting it too easy.

Whats the carb shake for?

Why do you need fish oils and Udos oils?

Hardly any bulker eats up to 7000 calories a day.

Hanley · 14-08-2007 05:49PM

Esse85 wrote:

Hardly any bulker eats up to 7000 calories a day.

I was just wondering if he actually eats 7k a day, it's an awful lot liek.

PeakOutput · 14-08-2007 06:30PM

Esse85 wrote:

You obviously have no regard for money or your getting it too easy.

Thats a bit harsh if he has the money he has the right to spend it on whatever he wants. Just because he can afford it and others might not be able to does not mean his perception of the value of money is any less. he might not need it, thats besides the point, i don't need an expensive laptop but i can afford one and i want one so i have one.

ronbyrne2005 · 14-08-2007 06:54PM

SuprSi wrote:

Thanks for the responses guys. What I think I'm hearing is that I should be able to get all the protein I need from a good diet, rather than supplements, and that Creatine will help me work harder and recover faster, which would definitely help.

One question though, seeing as I'll be doing my weights workout in the morning - would a protein shake or something similar not be of benefit immediately after the workout considering I won't be able to get anything with a lot of protein into me after it?

Good diet and whey protein with glucose/maltodextrin immediate after workout. Maybe a Glutamine supplement as well but supplements should not be that expensive.The guy spending loads on supplements probably saves it on food but real food is much better.
If time is an issue cook up loads of chicken fillets at the one time and keep them in freezer and leave to defrost over night. Cooking in bulk in advance makes time not an issue.

Hanley · 14-08-2007 06:59PM

I'm not too sure what the story with glutamine is. Reasearch doesn't seem to support it but I've been taking 5-10g a day and I'm recovering super quick. Dunno if that's solely down to the glutamine or increased volume tolerance tho.

walt0r · 14-08-2007 10:04PM

Hanley I probably eat 6k a day easily when training. I'm not eating right at the moment because I'm studying non-stop and haven't trained much either which is obvious from me journal.
Esse - The supps I take consistently are my weight gainer, animal pak/stak (a multivitamin would more than likely suffice but I do feel slightly stronger while using the stak), carb shake before training and udo's/magnesium. I don't use creatine as I get acne from it. I honestly feel better and have more energy when I'm taking them consistently than I do without. Suck my balls.
And about my money? I can spend it any ****ing way I want. Who the hell are you to tell me how to spend money and that I have no respect for it.

Esse85 · 14-08-2007 11:12PM

:eek: Temper, Temper

Im glad you didnt lose the rag:p

Illkillya · 14-08-2007 11:30PM

All that protein is making him aggressive.

walt0r · 14-08-2007 11:33PM

Sorry it's all this protein it's making me crazy I'm getting bad mood swings from it forgive me. You know the way this schtuff makes you go mental and all, soz

Dragan · 15-08-2007 09:30AM

walt0r wrote:

Suck my balls.
And about my money? I can spend it any ****ing way I want. Who the hell are you to tell me how to spend money and that I have no respect for it.

I'm getting the feeling that your real lucky i didn't see this before it was edited. Your an inch away from a banning dude. Consider yourself warned.

daveirl · 15-08-2007 10:24AM

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Esse85 · 15-08-2007 10:28AM

Have you got a link to it?

justsomebloke · 15-08-2007 10:33AM

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nah but I remember seeing a piece on one of the british Olympic rowers who went through 7-8000 calories a day and then they had some tubby reporter trying to eat exactly the same amount of food and who failed miserably, quite funny actually

Dragan · 15-08-2007 10:38AM

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Having seen that man eat i would actually think that is under estimated. He's a machine.

daveirl · 15-08-2007 10:58AM

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t-ha · 15-08-2007 12:13PM

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Was surfing beside him in Lahinch recently - man is a tank.

On a side note, I've easily been downing 6 - 7,000 kcals/day for the last 2 months. It can be done. Sure a few bowls of muesli for breakfast with a light topping of a bag of fun-size kit-kats will have you well on your way!

Leon11 · 15-08-2007 02:15PM

6k-7k would be quite easy I'd imagine. In POC's case the guy is just mammoth, he easily trains twice a day 5-6 days a week in the off season.

t-ha · 15-08-2007 03:56PM

BTW, in answer to the original question, about 20 - 30 euro at the moment. I have had much higher bills though, mostly when I was experimenting with different supplements.

Kinetic^ · 15-08-2007 04:01PM

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[sailor from the simpsons]Tis no man, tis an eating machine!!!![sailor from the simpsons]

Seriously though, wtf!!! That's an incredible amount of food for one day.

How much are you guys spending on supplements a month for weight gain?

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