Pot limit Vs NL

samelterrance · 02-08-2007 03:07PM #1

WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY (talking about SE here)
do they not have NL games, I hear they do on the weekend, but I was there on Monday night, and they had 3 FULL tables of Pot Limit 1/2.

Why don't they deal NL and make 250 or something min to sit down with.
PL 1/2 you get drunk people sitting down with 50.

P.S I F*KIN HATE POL LIMIT

Tar.Aldarion · 02-08-2007 03:47PM

Yes.

El Stuntman · 02-08-2007 03:50PM

why don't you ask them?

there's usually a NL table on Fridays/Saturdays, it's still 1/2 though

samelterrance · 02-08-2007 03:53PM

I asked them and they wouldn't put one on.

I even asked if they could take a vote of how many people wanted NL and to stick them on another table, if there were enough the other two tables would still have been full. they wouldn't

and been able to sit down 50 is just a joke. Maybe have one table just for a 50 Min for the drunk people but not every table.

mdwexford · 02-08-2007 03:54PM

your thread title is misleading, limit is not pot limit

samelterrance · 02-08-2007 03:56PM

mdwexford wrote:

your thread title is misleading, limit is not pot limit

Yes, you are correct and apologise !!!!
Thanks

Mr.Plough · 02-08-2007 03:57PM

more rake

samelterrance · 02-08-2007 03:59PM

Mr.Plough wrote:

more rake

speaking of rake, now that I'm on a rant ..
why not just charge everyone at the table every half hour or hour like they do in the UK !!!! that's the proper way of doing it.

Mr.Plough · 02-08-2007 04:04PM

not good for nut peddlers like myself.

The_Daddy_H · 02-08-2007 04:11PM

More rake, people dont lose all their money quite so fast.

Samba · 02-08-2007 04:13PM

try learning PL it's a far more skillful game

samelterrance · 02-08-2007 04:26PM

Samba wrote:

try learning PL it's a far more skillful game

What, PL is more skillful !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you have got to be kidding me.

bohsman · 02-08-2007 04:28PM

PL is a far more skillful game, poor players cant just push all in, they actually have to play more than one street.

LuckyLloyd · 02-08-2007 04:35PM

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samelterrance · 02-08-2007 04:47PM

What, are you afraid of ALL INs .. that's where the skill comes in, do I call, do I not call,

PL, you know exactly how much you have to potentially pay out to see another card.

NL is by far the game that requires more skill.

LuckyLloyd · 02-08-2007 04:50PM

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samelterrance · 02-08-2007 04:52PM

I am so curious

what makes you think PL is more skillful than NL

samelterrance · 02-08-2007 04:54PM

LuckyLloyd wrote:

wrong, very wrong. I actually don't know where to begin. Someone help?

"Pot-limit has more skill to it than limit poker, but no-limit has far more skill than pot-limit." [135]

taken from Inside T.J. Cloutier's Championship No-Limit and Pot-Limit Hold'em

but maybe you know better than the pros.

Jesus Wept · 02-08-2007 04:59PM

Samba wrote:

try learning PL it's a far more skillful game

Load of balls. If they made it double PL preflop it might be skillful, but when 6 people take every flop (ala 1-2 PL in dublin), there is f-all skill in that.

samelterrance · 02-08-2007 05:01PM

The-Rigger wrote:

Load of balls. If they made it double PL pf it might be skillful, but when 6 people take every flop, there is f-all skill in that.

FINALLY, someone that is making sense

5starpool · 02-08-2007 05:02PM

samelterrance wrote:

but maybe you know better than the pros.

TJ Cloutier's words does not mean he can generically be referred to as "The Pros".

I think it was HJ who posted recently something along the lines of "If you never bet more than the pot you will rarely, if ever be making a mistake". There are different skills in NL that are not used in PL, but there are also shortcuts in NL that will allow weaker players to prevail over the short term. NL is a field leveller in many respects. PL is usually a more skill based games overall. When played properly, there is not a huge difference, except perhaps preflop, between PL and NL in most respects.

samelterrance · 02-08-2007 05:05PM

5starpool wrote:

there is not a huge difference, except perhaps preflop, between PL and NL in most respects.

How can say that is not a huge difference..that's the game !! It's a massive difference.

samelterrance · 02-08-2007 05:07PM

5star and lucky,

would you/have you, lost more money playing PL or NL.

5starpool · 02-08-2007 05:08PM

samelterrance wrote:

How can say that is not a huge difference..that's the game !! It's a massive difference.

There are several streets to play you know, it is not all preflop as your above post, taken in isolation seems to imply. It is mostly the first raise preflop that is affected.

5starpool · 02-08-2007 05:10PM

samelterrance wrote:

5star and lucky,

would you/have you, lost more money playing PL or NL.

I almost exclusively play NL tournies, or cash PLO anyhow. There may be a part of me that just enjoys disagreeing with people, but not all of my points relate to that.

Edit: Nice phrasing of the question btw.

samelterrance · 02-08-2007 05:10PM

5starpool wrote:

There are several streets to play you know, it is not all preflop as your above post, taken in isolation seems to imply. It is mostly the first raise preflop that is affected.

I do agree, there are several streets to play, but it all stems from pre-flop nevertheless.

ollyk1 · 02-08-2007 05:10PM

samelterrance wrote:

5star and lucky,

would you/have you, won more money playing PL or NL.

FYP

samelterrance · 02-08-2007 05:11PM

5starpool wrote:

I almost exclusively play NL tournies, or cash PLO anyhow. There may be a part of me that just enjoys disagreeing with people, but not all of my points relate to that.

the majority of time though, you play PL cause NL is not available or you just prefer Omaha ?

samelterrance · 02-08-2007 05:12PM

ollyk1 wrote:

FYP

sorry, what is FYP ?

5starpool · 02-08-2007 05:15PM

samelterrance wrote:

the majority of time though, you play PL cause NL is not available or you just prefer Omaha ?

I prefer Omaha by far in cash games. However, there is as you say, no option to play NLHE anyhow. I agree with you that there should be NL games, but that is a different point. I think worse players and better players due to the worse players, would play NL games anyhow.

5starpool · 02-08-2007 05:16PM

samelterrance wrote:

sorry, what is FYP ?

This means that he updated your post in the quoted part of his reply to change a part of it to a correct meaning. In other words, Fixed Your Post (FYP). In the above case he changed lost to won.

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