The Jews did it !

Wertz · 08-07-2007 11:38AM

Jesus was a jew. I land the blame squarely at his door.

ejmaztec · 08-07-2007 11:57AM

StephenC_IRL wrote:

that iranian comedian, kebabs, turkish baths, nice mosques, yet anither reason not to like the jews

And where would we be without proper numbers, instead of them there Roman things?

SimpleSam06 · 08-07-2007 12:13PM

ejmaztec wrote:

And where would we be without proper numbers, instead of them there Roman things?

That would be Indian numerals, incorrectly called Arabic...

The numerals arose in India between 400 BC and 400 AD. They were transmitted first to West Asia, where they find mention in the 9th century, and eventually to Europe in the 10th century. Since knowledge of the numerals reached Europe through the work of Arab and Persian mathematicians and astronomers, the numerals came to be called "Arabic numerals."

ejmaztec · 08-07-2007 12:31PM

SimpleSam06 wrote:

That would be Indian numerals, incorrectly called Arabic...

Well, well, well, another reason for the hatred of many Indians towards Muslims - they stole their numbers!

At least we won't be alone in the fighting when the s**t really hits the fan!

Demonique · 08-07-2007 12:54PM

Laslo wrote:

Yes, Islamic extremists have loads in common with anti-abortion campaigners. :rolleyes: I won't get into the abortion debate as I don't know enough about it, but I'm not 100% convinced that it's not evil/selfish in many cases.
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What about the anti-abortionist who shot that doctor in the US because he performed abortions? What about those who threaten to blow up abortion clinics?

One journalist at the recent Miss D case said that one of the anti-abortion protesters said 'I know where you live' and threatened to burn his house down.

Charming people

The_Minister · 08-07-2007 01:03PM

StephenC_IRL wrote:

the extremists on grafton street trying to force their "abortion is evil" propoganda on you.

Oh yes, they are soooooo evil. Watch out for their fearsome pamplets.

Laslo · 08-07-2007 04:08PM

Demonique wrote:

What about the anti-abortionist who shot that doctor in the US because he performed abortions? What about those who threaten to blow up abortion clinics?

Oh right. So they both carry out and/or threaten violence and that makes them equitable. I don't know why Islamic militants and anti-abortion groups don't just form an alliance. They seem to have so much in common.

Demonique wrote:

One journalist at the recent Miss D case said that one of the anti-abortion protesters said 'I know where you live' and threatened to burn his house down.

Charming people

What's your point?

MooseJam · 08-07-2007 06:14PM

monkeyfudge wrote:

And do remember that the jews are an ethnic group... religion doesn't necessarily have anything to do with it.

no they ain't I can convert to jew

philologos · 08-07-2007 06:17PM

Piste wrote:

On the subject of terrorism, why do they do it? Is it against the West or against all non-muslims cos they wan't everyone to be Muslim? I just don't get it!

Well basically the countries targetted are often carrying out their own terrorism in other areas of the Middle East. I'd see Israel as the prime example of this, USA, Britain, and Spain before the election in 2004. Spain hasn't been targetted since their troops were moved out of Iraq.

Wompa1 · 08-07-2007 06:25PM

One things for sure, its us that are right and everyone else is wrong, I say we get together some weekend, not next weekend cus I'll be drinking but some other weekend and we can plan the future and how to wipe out all the 'problem' groups...The Corrib Gas Line will be laid with no interuptions, Democracy will be widespread only to be ruined by the rampant spread of socialism and we'll all drive Saab's...Go Boards Go

DemocAnarchis · 08-07-2007 06:37PM

Zillah wrote:

How many of the suicide bombers of the last decade do you think might have not done it if they weren't convinced they were going to get a special place in heaven because of it?

Probably not too many, but that isnt the point. The conflict is politically motivated, but uses the subtext of a Jihad to recruit impressionable youngsters who commite these atrocities.

monkeyfudge · 08-07-2007 07:56PM

MooseJam wrote:

no they ain't I can convert to jew

You can convert to Judaism... but the Jews are a specific ethnic group as well, with several sub groups to boot.

Also, I'd be Jewish on my mothers side... but I have absolutely no faith in their archaic religion. I do have a great deal of respect for the culture though.

There's a huge amount of aspects to being Jewish that have nothing to do with religion.

Tha Gopher · 08-07-2007 07:57PM

monkeyfudge wrote:

And do remember that the jews are an ethnic group... religion doesn't necessarily have anything to do with it.

In fairness theres a reason that Russian Jews look much like regular Russians and Ethiopian Jews like other Africans, the one race thing is pretty diluted over the last 2000 (unless ancient Israel was populated by white Jews, Jews that look Mid Eastern and black Jews, which i doubt somewhat). Being pro Palestinian Ive always thought the right to return arguement makes as much sense as Irish people of Celtic and Viking origin going to Scandanavia and Austria to throw out the natives and reclaim our former land, and that the way the world stood back while people were thrown out of their homeland by a group taking a very liberal interpretation of a religious belief. re your own lineage re what you said about your mothers side, id imagine you have more genetically in common with the average East European in Dublin rather than an Iraqi born jew (assuming thats your mothers waaayyy back place of origin, tbh i cant recall ever meeting an Irish jew. Or any Jew for that matter)

Having said all of that I dont buy the "Jews flew the planes by remote control on 9/11" cock.

Tha Gopher · 08-07-2007 07:58PM

obl wrote:

What holocaust? :P

Show some respect, my grandad died in a concentration camp. As he was coming off duty he slipped, fell off his guard tower and cracked his skull......

Yeah, the third coat there, the black one, yep, thats mine :rolleyes: *leaves*

MooseJam · 08-07-2007 08:00PM

monkeyfudge wrote:

You can convert to Judaism... but the Jews are a specific ethnic group as well, with several sub groups to boot.

Also, I'd be Jewish on my mothers side... but I have absolutely no faith in their archaic religion. I do have a great deal of respect for the culture though.

There's a huge amount of aspects to being Jewish that have nothing to do with religion.

The Jews aren't an ethnic group, Jews come from all over the world, Africa, South America etc etc, you might be refering to the ones in the middle east, they are just the same as the Palestinians and Arabs

monkeyfudge · 08-07-2007 08:02PM

Tha Gopher wrote:

In fairness theres a reason that Russian Jews look much like regular Russians and Ethiopian Jews like other Africans, the one race thing is pretty diluted over the last 2000 (unless ancient Israel was populated by white Jews, Jews that look Mid Eastern and black Jews, which i doubt somewhat). Being pro Palestinian Ive always thought the right to return arguement makes as much sense as Irish people of Celtic and Viking origin going to Scandanavia and Austria to throw out the natives and reclaim our former land.

That's a valid enough point... but a person can still be Jewish, and quite clearly Jewish without ever having anything to do with the faith.

Agamemnon · 08-07-2007 08:06PM

SimpleSam06 wrote:

So those, in summary, are the root causes for the terrorism. I'll say that in my opinion, Islam is a wretched misogynistic death cult only given legitimacy by the surplus of vital resources that happen to be located in primarily Islamic regions, and it should be driven off the map, and consigned to the dusty annals of history.

A hundred years ago, they were riding around on camels and shitting in tents. In a hundred years, that's where they will be again.

Excellent post, SimpleSam06. I might add that the terrorism problem will only get worse when the oil runs out. Even the middle eastern countries thought to be friendly to the west, like Saudi Arabia, are only that way because their rulers are mollified with large amounts of western cash. Some of these countries, like Oman, are making the the effort to invest their oil wealth in things like infrastructure and education, but too often the money is squandered on shite like more limos and palaces while unemployment is rampant, creating a disaffected underclass ripe for recruitment by jihadists.

When the oil is gone, you can be sure the new terrorist recruiting pitch will go like this: "The westerners stole all our oil and now they've abandoned us to poverty. Let's overthrow the traitorous rulers that let it happen and set up an Islamic state. Then we can strike back as a nation with an army rather than as a band of guerillas."

Zillah · 08-07-2007 08:14PM

agamemnon wrote:

When the oil is gone, you can be sure the new terrorist recruiting pitch will go like this: "The westerners stole all our oil and now they've abandoned us to poverty. Let's overthrow the traitorous rulers that let it happen and set up an Islamic state. Then we can strike back as a nation with an army rather than as a band of guerillas."

Yes but once that happens we don't care what happens their crappy corner of the world...bombs away. Yee haw.

Americans...

ejmaztec · 08-07-2007 08:43PM

agamemnon wrote:

When the oil is gone, you can be sure the new terrorist recruiting pitch will go like this: "The westerners stole all our oil and now they've abandoned us to poverty. Let's overthrow the traitorous rulers that let it happen and set up an Islamic state. Then we can strike back as a nation with an army rather than as a band of guerillas."

By the time the oil runs out, their treacherous rulers will have legged it to the South of France. They will own most of Europe, most of the multi-national companies - and we'll all work for them, double pay if you convert to Islam.

biko · 08-07-2007 08:51PM

When the oil is gone, that is the end of civilisation as we know it.
Without fuel food cannot be transported from the farm to the cities. This means big cities will collapse whereas smaller communities that can access crops will survive.
Industrial nations will crumple. Perhaps this will be best for the planet.

MooseJam · 08-07-2007 09:49PM

biko wrote:

When the oil is gone, that is the end of civilisation as we know it.
Without fuel food cannot be transported from the farm to the cities. This means big cities will collapse whereas smaller communities that can access crops will survive.
Industrial nations will crumple. Perhaps this will be best for the planet.

you can drive trucks on rapeseed oil

galwayrush · 08-07-2007 09:56PM

Wompa1 wrote:

One things for sure, its us that are right and everyone else is wrong, I say we get together some weekend, not next weekend cus I'll be drinking but some other weekend and we can plan the future and how to wipe out all the 'problem' groups...The Corrib Gas Line will be laid with no interuptions, Democracy will be widespread only to be ruined by the rampant spread of socialism and we'll all drive Saab's...Go Boards Go

We'll start in Shop Street, wipe out the anti everything brigade and go on a pub crawl.:D

Zillah · 09-07-2007 01:04AM

biko wrote:

When the oil is gone, that is the end of civilisation as we know it.
Without fuel food cannot be transported from the farm to the cities. This means big cities will collapse whereas smaller communities that can access crops will survive.
Industrial nations will crumple. Perhaps this will be best for the planet.

Society is much, much smarter than you are. We'll be fine. We'll never run out of oil, it'll just become more and more expensive to get at the oil that is left and economics will force massive development of renewable energy sources.

Karl Hungus · 09-07-2007 01:57AM

I'm shocked an appalled that nobody has corrected the glaring grammatical error in the thread title.

We all know that the collective term for Jew is 'The Jew' therefor the thread title should be 'The Jew did it!'

Irish Wolf · 09-07-2007 02:15AM

Karl Hungus wrote:

I'm shocked an appalled that nobody has corrected the glaring grammatical error in the thread title.

We all know that the collective term for Jew is 'The Jew' therefor the thread title should be 'The Jew did it!'

Perhaps they meant "The Jew's did it!"?

therefore has an "e" at the end

mountainyman · 09-07-2007 08:32AM

MooseJam wrote:

no they ain't I can convert to jew

Not real Judaism you can't. Islam is Judaism adapted to make converts. Judaism is a tribal religion which does not want adherents who are not of the tribe.

MM

mountainyman · 09-07-2007 08:34AM

I thought everyone knew the SIMPSONS DID IT.

MM

Alanthroneus · 09-07-2007 08:57AM

biko wrote:

When the oil is gone, that is the end of civilisation as we know it.
Without fuel food cannot be transported from the farm to the cities. This means big cities will collapse whereas smaller communities that can access crops will survive.
Industrial nations will crumple. Perhaps this will be best for the planet.

em..... have you been around for lets say the last ten years or so....... when the oil is gone we wont "crumple" as there is always the alternative to oil. i.e wind etc.

do you honestly think that we as a race are not gonna be prepared for the oil dissapearing....... you must remember we have the greens in power

SimpleSam06 · 09-07-2007 10:30AM

agamemnon wrote:

I might add that the terrorism problem will only get worse when the oil runs out.

I'd disagree there. The history of Islamic terrorism clearly has its roots in western interference with their political processes and culture. It might be condensed to one single shout: "Leave us alone!"

Take the oil out of the equation, and the west has no further reason to meddle, so the middle eastern nations get what they want. I'm fairly sure they will be happy marinading in a stew of their own juices until the people get sick of the religious leaders, which shouldn't take too long.

Ironically, the middle class in Iran were well on their way to throwing out the theocracy there, until the US started making noises about invasion, strengthening the clownbags in charge in Iran and making the moderate voices seem like traitors.

agamemnon wrote:

"The westerners stole all our oil and now they've abandoned us to poverty. Let's overthrow the traitorous rulers that let it happen and set up an Islamic state. Then we can strike back as a nation with an army rather than as a band of guerillas."

Well if there's one thing that Iraq has shown lately, its that openly going toe to toe with the US or the west in general is automatic qualification for a Darwin award. I can see the "stole all our oil" angle, but really, what are they going to do about it?

Widespread, organised, systematic terrorism will only get the country harbouring them invaded, and keep would be terrorists too tied up with their homeland to think about foreign adventures. And even if they were interested in such activities, what would they gain? Are they looking for a receipt for all the money given to their rulers?

\m/_(>_<)_\m/ · 09-07-2007 11:51AM

StephenC_IRL wrote:

everyone forgets about those catholic extremists who bombed omagh

erm.... catholic extremists, i bet that is the first and last time the 'real IRA' were called catholic extremist, thats funny.

and i always thought they wanted a united Ireland.... what a fool iv been,

does any of the media know that the 'real IRA' are catholic extremists because they have been getting it wrong for the last 50 years as well.

The Jews did it !

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