Missing Madeline - Anyone else sick of this?

Instant Karma · 28-05-2007 07:39PM

If this happened to anyONE of your kids, you would be doing the exact same thing and keeping the story in the news. Story in news = greater possibility of a happy end.

Fair play to the family, most news stories have a shelf life of hours but they managed to keep it going so far.

whiskeyman · 28-05-2007 07:47PM

Instant Karma wrote:

Story in news = greater possibility of a happy end.

Not always the case.

Perhaps if she wandered off and was missing (not abducted), it may help things, but you'd expect a speedy resolution is this case. Just how far could a 4 year old wander off by herself?
But as has already been mentioned before, if she was abducted, the kidnapper may well panic due to the huge search and 'dispose' of her. If it was a 'made to order' kidnapping, the new parents may well do the same in fear of being found out.

daveirl · 28-05-2007 07:49PM

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whiskeyman · 28-05-2007 07:54PM

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Think you missed my point.

I mearly stated that the huge publicity this case is getting mightn't necessarily lead to a happy ending. It could well have an adverse affect.
Either way, I can't see a happy ending to this 'story' given the time elapsed.

Rb · 28-05-2007 08:03PM

daveirl wrote:

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Puh-lease.

Instant Karma · 28-05-2007 09:25PM

rb_ie wrote:

Puh-lease.

And would you lay over and take it if your brother was literally gutted in the street and those that did it were untouchable? A healthy dose of reality Puh-lease.

Stabshauptmann · 28-05-2007 09:29PM

rb_ie wrote:

Puh-lease.

My memory is hazy, but I cant remember anything about the whole affair that would lead me to dub them media whores. Why do you think they were?

thefinalstage · 28-05-2007 10:59PM

Instant Karma wrote:

And would you lay over and take it if your brother was literally gutted in the street and those that did it were untouchable? A healthy dose of reality Puh-lease.

Em ok.....

I think this can all be explained by the parents selling the child. No evidence, because whoever took her was given a key. They Checked every few minutes but just enough so as to allow the abductor enough time and to look as if they care. A big media circus to make it look even more convincing that they wanted the child. I mean they left her and her two sisters alone in a strange country so they didn't want really want them. The two parents are fairly smart so they probably could pull it off. They didn't want the child so why not make some money?

Call Me Jimmy · 28-05-2007 11:04PM

Instant Karma wrote:

If this happened to anyONE of your kids, you would be doing the exact same thing and keeping the story in the news. Story in news = greater possibility of a happy end.

Fair play to the family, most news stories have a shelf life of hours but they managed to keep it going so far.

Nobody I have seen is blaming the family for seeking the media attention (which we all would do in their situation), they are blaming the media for giving it to them to such a ridiculous degree.

Saintly · 29-05-2007 02:11AM

whiskeyman wrote:

Think you missed my point.I mearly stated that the huge publicity this case is getting mightn't necessarily lead to a happy ending. It could well have an adverse affect. Either way, I can't see a happy ending to this 'story' given the time elapsed.

At this stage I wonder if there will be an ending? Or if it will simply be another Ben Needham case, dredged up every few years? A good mate has specialised in criminal psychology and I have (by association) developed an amateur interest in the area. There is a large body of work in criminal behavioural sciences looking at the impact of media coverage on a case.

Some of the media coverage resonates with the tactics of criminal psychology - personalising the family, particularly the younger kids, direct appeals, personalising Madeleine, police interviews etc. Obviously Sky is in it to make a quick buck but I would imagine that someone in the background is advising the McCanns/cops with regard to media presentations, safe in the knowledge that the abductor is following every move... and research has demonstrated that media coverage can be a useful tool in exposing a perpetrator. That's the theory anyhow!

Saintly.

Saint_Mel · 29-05-2007 08:08AM

The Gnome wrote:

There's a "Missing: Madeline" flyer in the window of my local Spar. I'll say no more barr :rolleyes:

There's a poster like that ... in my local pub!!!!!!!!

Now unless she's in there downing Jack Daniels to beat the band
I dont think anyone in there would notice!

lemansky · 29-05-2007 05:37PM

Saint_Mel wrote:

There's a poster like that ... in my local pub!!!!!!!!

Now unless she's in there downing Jack Daniels to beat the band
I dont think anyone in there would notice!

As one person previously said, theres one in his office.....he checked a number of times and she wasn't there any of them!
Its a bit stupid alright.Yes if people who drink in your pub see the poster and go on holidays they'll say that seeing the poster in the pub made them alert to her appearance and so they were in a postition to recognise her if they found her...but they would've seen posters in a hundred more places,which were more relavent, like an airport, before arriving.A local pub is stupid.
I agree with the odd poster but things are too far......I saw one on the inside of one of those vending machines that you can see in through the front of.

BigTommyBomb · 29-05-2007 06:37PM

People cared and now....

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?url=findmadeleine.com

Dampsquid · 29-05-2007 09:44PM

They have now just left their two other kids for a trip to rome...

http://news.sky.com/skynews/video/videoplayer/0,,30000-1267688,.html

Snake Plisken · 29-05-2007 10:14PM

Why the hell didn't they take them with them, I wouldn't let any of my kids out of sight if something like this happened to me? I'd also have got them blessed by the pope for protection. Also I see they travelled by private jet!!! Who paid for that? I really can't understand these people

DeBeere · 29-05-2007 10:30PM

Dampsquid wrote:

They have now just left their two other kids for a trip to rome...

I can understand if they make that mistake once but twice!
Not to mention on worldwide television!!!

Idiots TBH.

Gran Hermano · 29-05-2007 10:35PM

Dampsquid wrote:

They have now just left their two other kids for a trip to rome...

http://news.sky.com/skynews/video/videoplayer/0,,30000-1267688,.html

Bet they paid for a babysitter this time.

The Queen · 29-05-2007 10:36PM

A friend of mine told me that one of the "Missing Madelaine" bebo sites has said that tomorrow, everyone is wear yellow to give the McCanns support. I fail to see how that would help to be honest....

I don't know if someone else mentioned this already. Apologies if so!

Thomas_S_Hunterson · 29-05-2007 10:40PM

tbh

fluppet · 29-05-2007 10:48PM

New to this thread and I'm certainly not going to read 32 pages, so someone else has probably made this point already... I heard there are something like 3,000 children abducted every year (so almost 10 per day), but we hear so little about any of them it seems unfair that this case should get so much attention.

Gauge · 29-05-2007 11:07PM

The Queen wrote:

A friend of mine told me that one of the "Missing Madelaine" bebo sites has said that tomorrow, everyone is wear yellow to give the McCanns support. I fail to see how that would help to be honest....

I don't know if someone else mentioned this already. Apologies if so!

The same bebo groups that gave us lovely, respectful pictures such as this:

To be honest this just disturbs me and it doesn't support or help anything. Her parents may be dodgy but she is THEIR daughter and this ridiculous push for 'support' while acting inappropriately familiar (as if they knew the child personally) is nothing but a huge circlejerk so people can sleep easier at night because They Showed That They Cared by displaying an ASCII angel on their page or leaving a comment on a group.

Oblomov · 29-05-2007 11:28PM

To be able to keep this in the media for this length of time requires sustanial effort, both time and monies,

The school of thought varies, if this stops the next possible kidnap it has achieved wonders, if it makes the potential pedo pause and think, saves the next child...

The other school of thought, has it made the kidnappers dispose of the girl to avoid capture?

The parents need a form of penitence, the effort to maintain the media presence is another form of contrition, the open admission of guilt, all contribute to a form of adjustment to the loss.

The action are to be admired, having the time and monies to be able to maintain the scrutiny, to have sufficient friends and family willing to support and assit, excellent.

If you have any children, you will understand,empathise, the loss and realise that the guilt and the not knowing will live on with them.

My personal suggestion, get some SAS guys and pick up the local pedos and persuade them that in their own interests that naming any possibles would assist everyone involved. It might take some time but the clear up rate would be a great benifit to all.

peveril13 · 29-05-2007 11:46PM

this case of human ignorance is gone out of all proportion.
ONE kid is missing and now has a return fund worth millions.

I have to think a lot of better things could be done with the airtime, column inches and the money.
40, 000 children die everyday of disease and hunger.
250,000 kids loose their sight each year cause of a lack of vitiman A which would cost just 4cents a dose, why dont we hear more about this?

Im utterly sick of this maddie thing, in a bigger picture is means nothing.

Snake Plisken · 30-05-2007 12:02AM

I think I'd have to get a detective like Nic Cage played in 8mm and started digging deep into peado rings to find leads, I think it might turn out better leads to the little girl.

Snake

fasterkitten · 30-05-2007 12:03AM

ejmaztec wrote:

I think that it's more the fault of the parents of an abductor for bringing him into the world, than the strangely naive parents of an abducted child. Society in general is responsible for allowing the perv-nutjobs free reign on the planet. Whoever carried out this abduction, and the perpetrators of countless other abductions, could have been locked up before, and then released after being miraculously cured of their little character flaw. We all know that these people are completely incurable, despite what the shrinks might say.

Do you have full command of your mental faculties. That is the single stupidest opinion I've ever come across. Mob rules so let's ignore the experts, is that your attitude?!

ejmaztec wrote:

You can hide in your shells and say that these cases have nothing to do with you, but think of your local un-reported weirdoes, seemingly at least one in every neighbourhood, where the locals ignore their gut-feelings about him, simply tell their kids to avoid him, for some unexplained reason.

What would you have happen instead? A lynch mob to form? Civilised societies observe a legal process. Should 'weirdos' be reported to police?! Do you have a brain???

I think you should stick to reading The Sun.

Saintly · 30-05-2007 12:24AM

fasterkitten wrote:

I think you should stick to reading The Sun.

A healthy proportion of The Sun's readers appear to be on this thread...

Had to laugh - saw the coverage about the McCanns leaving their kids in Portugal in the care of family while they complete a quick, busy and tiring 24 trip to Rome - just knew there would be some hysterical ranting on this thread about it and lo and behold....

Saintly.

simu · 30-05-2007 01:24AM

insert more random idle speculation...

BrandonBlock · 30-05-2007 01:26AM

What's this all about, - who's Madeline Mccann??

ApeXaviour · 30-05-2007 01:43AM

fasterkitten wrote:

Do you have full command of your mental faculties. That is the single stupidest opinion I've ever come across. Mob rules so let's ignore the experts, is that your attitude?!

Agreed and thanks for that. Funniest retort I've read in a while.

Missing Madeline - Anyone else sick of this?

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