irish men

daiixi wrote:

Sure go to Australia and you'll find that a lot of people move out of home between the ages of 18 and 23 and then move back home about five years later because they realise what a sweet deal it is/was!

Which means I'm not going to like Australian men a whole lot then. I really cannot understand people living at home long term. I can get to grips with it if someone is saving like mad to get a place of their own if they are intent on buying if not get the hell out, be a grown up, find a place to rent, cut those apron strings and make a life and home of your own. Someone living at home when they are an adult is one of the biggest turn offs no matter where the hell they are from.

gandalf wrote:

Well this has to be the most disappointing thread ever !!!!

Maybe thats because Irish women aren't as overly fragile are the Irish men are when it comes to being knocked back and so having to resort to telling all and sundry that all Irish men are fat, ugly, have bad dress sense, are overly materialistic, up themselves, etc etc etc. and so don't feel the need to vent what are the obvious frustrations of the Irish male.

The_B_Man wrote:

yes, god bless irish womens low standards!!

and yet all you can do is criticize them:rolleyes:

I think that if there is anything wrong with Irish men, (of this current generation), its directly as a result of what's wrong with society.

For the sake of the thread topic I'm just dealing with blokes here and not at all assuming all Irish women are exempt.

I could say that alot of Irish men have little or no respect for women, but thats generally the fault of the women they may have been, or are currently surrounded by.
Some of you have spoken of the mammy complex for example.
The hand that rocks the cradle rules the world, and unfortunately sometimes ruins it for those of us who have to date, or procreate with these particular men.

Irish men of this generation don't seem to be family orientated, (by that I mean respect their own families and the nature of belonging to such a structure), and take a long time to mature well into their 30's perhaps, but that's because they don't have to.
Society says they don't, by that I mean they can stay single for as long as they want and continue their teenage years well into their late twenties and indeed fourties in some cases.
There is less societal pressure on them to start a family or be the head of one...like for example the pressures in the 50's 60's etc..i.e. In short,they have little responsibility and little direction.

There are other pressures the poor sods have to deal with though. I would much prefer to be a woman than a man.
I'm not taking all the responsibility away from them and putting it on their mammies though
Whist Irish women tend to mature and grow out of the shackles of their perhaps crappy family life, from my own observations Irish men don't tend to grow out of it as quickly.

And as for yer one who has a hang up about people who live in the family home. If that's a standard you've set yourself for weeding out the useless, you had better be able to wait out for the property crash so as everyone fits your ideal profile. If that's the only problem you have with Irish men, I would suggest strongly that you don't have one, and perhaps assess the dynamics of the Irish property market before making rash statements.

bug wrote:

I think that if there is anything wrong with Irish men, (of this current generation), its directly as a result of what's wrong with society.

For the sake of the thread topic I'm just dealing with blokes here and not at all assuming all Irish women are exempt.

I could say that alot of Irish men have little or no respect for women, but thats generally the fault of the women they may have been, or are currently surrounded by.
Some of you have spoken of the mammy complex for example.
The hand that rocks the cradle rules the world, and unfortunately sometimes ruins it for those of us who have to date, or procreate with these particular men.

Irish men of this generation don't seem to be family orientated, (by that I mean respect their own families and the nature of belonging to such a structure), and take a long time to mature well into their 30's perhaps, but that's because they don't have to.
Society says they don't, by that I mean they can stay single for as long as they want and continue their teenage years well into their late twenties and indeed fourties in some cases.
There is less societal pressure on them to start a family or be the head of one...like for example the pressures in the 50's 60's etc..i.e. In short,they have little responsibility and little direction.

There are other pressures the poor sods have to deal with though. I would much prefer to be a woman than a man.
I'm not taking all the responsibility away from them and putting it on their mammies though
Whist Irish women tend to mature and grow out of the shackles of their perhaps crappy family life, from my own observations Irish men don't tend to grow out of it as quickly.

And as for yer one who has a hang up about people who live in the family home. If that's a standard you've set yourself for weeding out the useless, you had better be able to wait out for the property crash so as everyone fits your ideal profile. If that's the only problem you have with Irish men, I would suggest strongly that you don't have one, and perhaps assess the dynamics of the Irish property market before making rash statements.

That was me and it wasn't a rash statement, it really and truly bugs me when people (male and female) stay at home with their parents forever. Everyone doesn't have to own a house, I don't know why it is the thing that everyone in this country is obsessed about to the point where our government comes up with an affordable housing scheme. If you can't afford to buy you rent simple as.
I find that when people live at home well past the time they should have grown a back bone and moved out are overly pampered and spoiled and then when they eventually decide to grow a pair a move out they fully expect the same level of service with the person they are now living with.

kizzyr wrote:

t really and truly bugs me when people (male and female) stay at home with their parents forever... Everyone doesn't have to own a house... If you can't afford to buy you rent simple as... they should have grown a back bone and moved out are overly pampered and spoiled and then when they... decide to grow a pair a move out they fully expect the same level of service with the person they are now living with.

Remember that Irish women thread?

Deleted User wrote:

Rent is just dead money. You might as well be throwing it out the window.

In the current climate, rent on a house or apartment will generally be less than or equal to the interest portion of a mortgage to pay for a similar property in that location. You can justify renting as long as its a bit cheaper than the interest payments. Mind you, I'd only advise renting until the current climate changes.

Irish men, great fun, the best looking in the world, mammy's boys,

Great fun because they're not pressured into growing up too quickly and desperately competing with every other man they meet. Some men from other countries spend all of their youth chasing money, no fun at all, by the time they are 60 realise they should have had more fun while they were young, fecking eejits.

Manny's boys, definately, but that is their Daddy's fault, if he supported the boys mother properly like a man, then Mammy would not have substituted and used little Johnny as her emotional partner.

Weirdest self-promotion from an Irish man I've ever heard, I'm a fully qualified butcher,

magick wrote:

I believe that a lady should know her place after I wine and dine her. As a lady she is expected to acknowledge my manly needs by hoisting her skirt high above her Venus mound, as I shove my throbbing member into her entrails

Haha. Oh... my... God.

Laslo wrote:

Some people working in an underpaid workforce just can't afford excessively expensive houses in a massively inflated property market. A lot of the time it has nothing to do with 'back bone' and more to do with the kind of corruption that allows big business to profit from one of life's most basic necessities/other people's misery.

Having a home and a safe place to live is one of life's basis necessities, owning that place is not a God given right and as I said before if you can't afford to buy you rent. Irish people are odd about this issue, in other countries the world over people rent and rent for their entire lives. They do have a better organized rental system and the tenants have much more security in their leases than they have here and this is only right people do have the right to be secure in their home but we are not all born with the right to own a house automatically.