Photos: Hardware

patbundy · 19-03-2007 8:42pm

patbundy wrote:

hi guys heres my new rabbit gun

just joking guys,hopefully soon i will be able to up load pictures of my real one

Happyhunter · 20-03-2007 11:49pm

Hi guys this is my first gun got it a couple of months ago and was only waiting three weeks for my licence. Which was a bit of a shock, heard horror stories of people waiting four months. Its an AYA yeoman. Can anyone give me any feedback on them?

civdef · 20-03-2007 11:58pm

Fantastic shotgun, once it hasn't been abused (and it looks very tidy in the pics), it's likely to give you great service.

Double Barrel · 22-03-2007 6:12pm

HappyHunter
I second civdef.
The gun looks almost new, most of the case colour and a just few handling marks.

A reliable, solid, field gun, a gun that if care is taken will last a lifetime and then some.
In the Basque hill town of Eibar, near Bilbao, most of the Basque gun trade - manufacturers- lie within walking distance of one another.
Aguirre y Aranzabal (AyA) -manufactured shotguns can be identified by serialization. Spanish (Basque) Proof Marks
http://personales.jet.es/rafa/b_punzones_eibar_fecha.html

Serial numbers over 600,001 on barrel flats are post-1988 AYA manufactured while specimens numbered under 600,000 may have been manufactured by Diarm 1986 -1988
http://www.aya-fineguns.com/ingles/homer.htm

http://personales.jet.es/rafa/b_punzones.html

The AyA Yeoman and Matador are very similar and some parts are interchangeable, consult a good gunsmith who works on doubles first.
http://www.gun-parts.com/matador/Mat%20Sch.jpg

Tell us a few things about the gun , barrel length, chokes, chamber length ,LOP.

A little bit of history: http://www.totalbusiness.org.uk/pages/lifestyle/augsep02/260.asp

Happyhunter · 22-03-2007 11:05pm

Thanks for the info Double Barrel.

I've been living in Ireland now for 8 years, originaly from Scotland. I got my british licence when I was 14 but never owned my own gun, always used my fathers it was a barretta side by side. When I first went to get my gun here I put a deposit on a Baikal o/u. Then I went back to Aberdeenshire over christmas and did a bit of woodcock shooting and by chance was using a baikal o/u. It was my first time using an o/u on game. I had used one once before for clays. Lets just say I didn't get on to well with it.:(

So when I got back to Ireland went straight back to Jeffers in Bandon and asked if I could change gun. The guy in there was sound , not a problem. The reason I chose the AYA was because it fitted perfect and I had heard of the name before. I'm so glad I changed. I paid 525 euro and he threw in 25 cartridges aswell. I think I got a deal.:D

Going by your info my gun would be pre 1988. If it was made by Diarm would that be bad thing? I can't find the proof mark on the gun. Where would it be? The barrell lengh is 28". I'm not sure of the chokes. Next time I'm in for cartridges I'll bring it with me and get them to check, but looking down on the barrells you can see the difference between the two. The chambers are 2 3/4". Sorry not sure what LOP means.

I see in pics on other threads you have a good few guns yourself. Which do you prefer the o/u or the s/s?

Umiq88 · 22-03-2007 11:23pm

LOP is length of pull which i think is the distance between the but of the gun and the trigger.

Well done on the new shotgun good you found out sooner than later cause if they dont fit you its a real pain you never really get any enjoyment out of shooting it.

Double Barrel · 23-03-2007 4:35pm

Let me add to psittacosis correct definition.:D

LOP, DOC, DAH etc :
Length of pull: this is the distance between the curve of the trigger and the center of the gun butt. On a double gun, this distance is measured from the front trigger.
http://www.skbshotguns.com/images/old%20website/85tss_stock.jpg

Pitch: the angle of the butt in relation to the top of the barrel.
Cast: the distance the centerline of the stock is offset to one side or another of the centerline of the barrel.
Drop: the distance from the top of the barrel or rib to the top edge of the stock at the comb and the heel.

Double Barrel · 23-03-2007 4:46pm

Happyhunter,

Remove the barrels from the action, on the barrel flats there will be star symbols *** visible on the flats - or just in front of the flats on the barrels.

Examine both the barrel flats and the watertable - the top of the bar of the action, the flat projection on the front of the receiver of a side-by-side,- as they contain other interesting information.

Spanish chokes are designated by * star symbols.

* 1/1 or .035, Full choke, 70% of Pattern in 30" circle @ 40 yards.

** 3/4 choke .030, or Improved Modified, 65% of Pattern in 30" circle @ 40 yards

*** 1/2 or .020, Modified, 60% of Pattern in 30" circle @ 40 yards

**** 1/4 or .010, Improved Cylinder 50 % of Pattern in 30" circle @ 40 yards

Open choke or Cylinder .000, (.729") 40% of Pattern in 30" circle @ 40 yards

The "choke" of a shotgun is a small constriction applied near the muzzle of the barrel that effectively changes the patterning characteristics of the shot as it passes through. The constriction is the difference between the tightest inside diameter measurement of the area of choke, and the actual bore diameter. A typical 12 gauge barrel has an inside diameter of .729" the chokes for this bore size would run from cylinder at .729" to Full at .689".

Additional information:

http://www.chrisbatha.com/clays1.html

Double Barrel · 25-03-2007 7:56pm

Happyhunter,
I have a decided preference for SxS guns.

AyA was one of the many (18-20?) Basque gunmakers that joined together in a Government backed operation to form DIARM, which lasted only a short time (1986- 89) for a variety of reasons before it went bankrupt.
The ill-fated DIARM consortium was a mechanism intended to save the Eibar gun business. Some of them, unfortunately, are no longer with us. A y A almost did not make it but a rekindling of the double gun flame that nearly went out in the 1950's & 60's has kept the firm in business. The "pooling' of resources during the DIARM period led to shall we say inconsistent product quality control.
The Yeoman & Matador IMO are exceptions to the 'cheap' gun tag . Yes, they are inexpensive gun's and not of the same quality as a new AyA costing many thousands, but they are solid, reliable shooter, and much better than the other cheap Spanish doubles.
I have a 10 bore Matador that was purchased in 1970, has digested hundreds of heavy magnum wildfowl cartridges, saltwater spray , general muck & grime and will do so for my lifetime and more. It certainly is not a best gun by any means but it has proven to be a sturdy and dependable gun.

marlin · 30-03-2007 10:53pm

hi guys
had a fabarm o/u 25" barrel s/t ejector since 1988 and traded it for this last week s/s 30" barrel non ej double trigger,had a s/s years ago and always wanted another now I just hope I can shoot straight with it ,it feels good and mounts nice so going to try a few clays this weekend,,,,fingers crossed ,,,

cantona · 02-04-2007 10:07pm

Newest addition to the family.Am now proud father with high expectations.

Mufflets · 03-04-2007 6:09pm

Heres my new (second-hand) Beretta 682. Am very happy with it, P.S. am still and always lookin for places to hunt anyone who PMs me with with address/no of farmers with too many rabbits, pigeons etc wont regret it.Cheers.

Double Barrel · 06-04-2007 6:21pm

The new Long----Range Rabbit Gun

A shoulder fired 20mm weapon with 2 mile max effective range, weight is about 60 kilos and about 200 cm in length.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/178/440078050_0bba0ebb8d_o.jpg

From left to right: .223, .338 lapua, 50BMG, 20MM Vulcan

Shooting a 20MM Rifle with Suppressor from the bench.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9NxHj1R04g&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eanzioironworks%2Ecom%2FMAG%2DFED%2D20MM%2DRIFLE%2Ehtm

newby.204 · 12-04-2007 12:26am

Marlin 917(.17hmr), Swift Optics 6-24x, 50mm Harris Bi-Pod
Yildiz 12ga O/U

Rifle from a different angle

macnas · 12-04-2007 2:07pm

cantona wrote:

Newest addition to the family.Am now proud father with high expectations.

Very nice Cantona, I heard you swapped the other plastic thing for jigsaw puzzle. Welcome to the STI family.

Clare gunner · 12-04-2007 2:15pm

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QUOTE=Double Barrel]The new Long----Range Rabbit Gun

A shoulder fired 20mm weapon with 2 mile max effective range, weight is about 60 kilos and about 200 cm in length.

Maadi Griffith or a Bill Holmes design???? More like 16 kilos in weight.:)
That is one quiet suppressor video,and one loooong can.:eek:

Vegeta · 12-04-2007 2:26pm

You got some lovely gear there newby.

Just a bit of advice not telling you what to do or anything, how do you find the height of the scope. it looks like the mounts are a bit high. Nothing wrong with that if it fits you well just an observation

Close your eyes, mount (not loaded of course) gun and open your eyes. Can you see through the scope? If so then ignore my rantings but if not a bit more scope adjustment (i.e. lower mounts) might improve your accuracy.

newby.204 · 12-04-2007 2:41pm

Vegeta wrote:

You got some lovely gear there newby.

Just a bit of advice not telling you what to do or anything, how do you find the height of the scope. it looks like the mounts are a bit high. Nothing wrong with that if it fits you well just an observation

Close your eyes, mount (not loaded of course) gun and open your eyes. Can you see through the scope? If so then ignore my rantings but if not a bit more scope adjustment (i.e. lower mounts) might improve your accuracy.

thanks for the input veg but i cant put the scope on in lower mounts as the front of the scope will be in contact with the barrel.

Vegeta · 12-04-2007 3:46pm

newby.204 wrote:

thanks for the input veg but i cant put the scope on in lower mounts as the front of the scope will be in contact with the barrel.

No hassle, high mounts are silghtly too high and medium mounts are too low, isn't it always the way

Double Barrel · 13-04-2007 7:47pm

CG

Designed and built Anzio Ironworks, St. Petersburg, Florida. I have it on good athority that the recoil is very managable and the suppressor works like a charm - it would want to at an estimated $3200.00.
The 50 BMG looks like a toy next to the 20-mm.

Anzio20mm shown next to 26" barreled Anzio 50

Shot Show:
http://www.defensereview.com/stories/anzio/SHOT%20Show%202007%20-%20Anzio%20Ironworks%20Mag-Fed%2020mm%20Anti-Materiel-Sniper%20Rifle_4.jpg

http://www.anzioironworks.com/index.html

Umiq88 · 27-04-2007 5:18pm

New gear

Vegeta · 27-04-2007 9:16pm

here's my babies

The tikka .223 was my first born. Then came baby benelli (love that gun) and finally the youngest of the bunch is my CZ .22lr

bullets · 27-04-2007 10:43pm

Similar to psittacosis I got my baby .17hmr CZ 452 Varmint
heavy and free floated. Brooks 2nd lightest spring intalled in the trigger
,yet to be tried out. The Scope looks cool but is really really Crap!!!!
(on my firearms cert its down as a BRNO rifle but the Barell stamp is CZ)
I love my rifle bit I dont quite like the muzzle as its threaded for a moderator
and is convex.

Ignore the cats I am an animal lover and somehow picked up 12 of the feckers.

~B

Hezz700 · 02-05-2007 9:32pm

These are the current residents of my vault.

1. Sportarmi o/u 28" double trigger
2. AYA no3 s/s 28"
3. Beretta Urika Al391 Syn 28":cool:
4. Remington 700 .220 Swift. Baush & Lomb 6-24 x 50, burris mounts.
5. CZ 452 .22. Simmons White tail 3-9 x 40

I've just traded my Lanber sporter 30" in for a B525 Advanced, so i'll stick that up here as soon as i get my hands on it.:)

Vegeta · 03-05-2007 10:42am

very nice

maglite · 07-05-2007 8:32pm

almost there

changed the mounts got the autho for the mod and bought a harris

now when time and money permit i will be putting butlercreek flip open covers and sunshade on

3000 rounds through it and its grouping great
Broke the ankle last weekend so i've been doing a bit of long range window shooting ,, 2 crows at 150ish yards, not paced but thats how far it is to the end of the field so i wont be too far offand its taking them down as well as it is at 50,, and the group is at between 4 and 6 inches at the 150

patbundy · 08-05-2007 10:08pm

guys,heres my new bunny gun

boc121 · 09-05-2007 6:32pm

looks great Pat, what is it ?
happy hunting.

Vegeta · 09-05-2007 7:42pm

My brothers new baby, picked it up today

Glock 34, his license came with 500 rounds on it

can someone tell me how to insert the image in the reply rather than linking the attachment

mallards · 09-05-2007 9:48pm

Set up an account with photobucket.com, copy and paste the URL it gives for your photo straight into the reply box... heh presto. Nice peice by the way!

Mallards.

jaycee · 09-05-2007 9:57pm

Don't use Photobucket ... the photo's URL will change and then there will be no picture displayed.

Image Shack is much easier to use ,
There's even a plug-in for Firefox that sits in the toolbar...

http://imageshack.us/

mallards · 09-05-2007 10:04pm

I never had any trouble with it. I just cut the exact URL and paste it directly on the reply, no messin. But heh, whatever works!

Mallards.

Citizen_Erased · 10-05-2007 3:58pm

You'll have to upload the image to www.imageshack.us or where ever and then paste the direct link you are given between

IMG*] only without the *. Or when writing the message just click on the 'insert image' button and paste in the direct link from imagshack.

Vegeta · 10-05-2007 4:05pm

Thanks folks

patbundy · 10-05-2007 11:08pm

boc121 wrote:

looks great Pat, what is it ?
happy hunting.

thanks boc121.its a savage 64f with a simmons scope

Sparks · 11-05-2007 5:21pm

Lads, we simply cannot let this image go unnoticed

SpitfireIV · 11-05-2007 6:51pm

Sorry, this is very off topic, but I couldnt look at the picture above without the one below coming to mind

maglite · 11-05-2007 6:56pm

does he need a cert from the super
did pasley have a cert

were the importation papers in order
does he have a cert of deactivation
where will it be store

and is that a figer on the trigger

did he point it at the camera man?

flight93 · 11-05-2007 8:40pm

More importantly, will this firearm be on the restricted list? It looks like a very large calibre, at least .50

FLAG · 11-05-2007 9:16pm

maglite wrote:

does he need a cert from the super
did pasley have a cert

were the importation papers in order
does he have a cert of deactivation
where will it be store

and is that a figer on the trigger

did he point it at the camera man?

Original non cartridge type firearms older than 1845 are regarded as antique.

The item that was presented was an original flintlock and as such is not subject to the firearms acts.

In essence the firearms act does not apply!

rrpc · 11-05-2007 9:24pm

FLAG wrote:

The item that was presented was an original flintlock and as such is not subject to the firearms acts.

It does however require inspection by the Garda ballistics unit and an importation order.

Rovi · 12-05-2007 12:29am

maglite wrote:

did he point it at the camera man?

Erm... no.
Not the cameraman...

CJhaughey · 12-05-2007 12:49am

He missed that chance.

BryanL · 12-05-2007 11:13am

he was in a dilema he only had one shot:eek:

dimebag249 · 15-05-2007 10:07pm

Here's my only gun, Remington 870 Express 12 gauge with Chaote 10 round magazine extension.

Clare gunner · 15-05-2007 10:34pm

Rovi wrote:

Erm... no.
Not the cameraman...

Dr Paisley..." Guess we will be bringin the gun back into Sthn politics soon again..":)

15-05-2007 11:01pm

Bertie: My Kingdom for a Silver Stake!!

Vegeta · 16-05-2007 9:15am

dimebag249 wrote:

Here's my only gun, Remington 870 Express 12 gauge with Chaote 10 round magazine extension.

Holy crap that's a lot of empties

dimebag249 · 16-05-2007 4:39pm

Vegeta wrote:

Holy crap that's a lot of empties

Yeah I knew I was saving them for something. I think It's only a few hundred though, the scary thing is how many full shells I have.

Hezz700 · 18-05-2007 11:58am

Very sweet piece of kit ya got there DB.

That photo reminds my of Hot shots with Charlie Sheen letting rip on the riverboat.:D

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