Beggar at my door

themole · 22-02-2007 04:49PM

I never give money to beggars.

If you want to help the poor give money to SVP or any other charity.

At least I know SVP won't give people money to buy booze or drugs etc

DonJose · 22-02-2007 04:55PM

oleras wrote:

I have heard of people paying upwards of €300 for that pleasure.....

stop the begging and start a business............

She might be able to slip you in

Found the link about the breast milk squirting beggar

http://www.unison.ie/stories.php3?ca=9&si=1770277&issue_id=15221

"A YOUNG beggar in Dublin city centre, who refused to move on when asked by gardai, opened her blouse took out her breast and sprayed breast milk over the garda when told she was going to be arrested.

Romanian gypsies begging on the streets of Dublin are facing prosecution as part of a major Garda crack down. Romania joined the EU on January 1 and last month the Office of the Refugee Applications Commissioner received 220 asylum applications from Romanian nationals in one week. The Minister for Justice, Michael McDowell, has since applied an EU protocol stopping the office from processing the applications of EU nationals unless there were exceptional circumstances.

In recent weeks, gardai have noted hundreds of Romanian gypsies arriving at Dublin airport and other ports around the country. Most are women aged between 20 and 40 and some can beg up to €150 a day.

Gardai will only arrest someone if they refuse to move on. In the past week alone between 15 and 20 people have been arrested and brought before the District Court. All have been granted bail on condition that they stay away from the city centre. Their cases are due to be dealt with in the coming weeks. A Department of Justice spokesman said that "people from Romania and other EU states are allowed free entry to Ireland. However, if they want to stay longer than three months they need the funds to stay here or they have to get a work permit."

Rosanna Flynn of Residents Against Racism said there was little alternative to begging for the Roma gypsies."

DonkeyStyle \o/ · 22-02-2007 05:02PM

Futureman wrote:

What does "in anyway" mean?

It means the same as anywayz.
Not proper English but.

I like the idea of getting some of your moneys-worth though, my own particular favourite is making people dance for me.
I've only tried it in an MMORPG so far, but I think it'd be even more hilarious IRL.

Overheal · 22-02-2007 06:22PM

Begging should be made illegal: a body/company should be set up to give these people a bit of work and a place to get some sleep and a hot shower and a clean change of clothes. Basically an incorporated nunnery/monastery

DublinWriter · 22-02-2007 08:10PM

digitally-yours wrote:

Having child with her changes the situation.I wouldnt give her money for her sake but for kids sake.

It's a bit like traditional street beggars who use a dog or two to make you go 'awwww'. It's all down to marketing.

OP - I've no doubt the beggar was Roma (not Romanian, big difference). These women are 'pimped' by guys. They are dropped off and picked up by these guys and on a daily basis all around Dublin. There's a big network of them in Dublin at the moment.

A common trick employed by them is to say that they need water for their kid (if an infant). While you go back to the kitchen to fetch water, they'll be in and out within 10 seconds.

These people aren't beggars, they are out-and-out criminals, fact.

spurious · 22-02-2007 08:17PM

Not all Roma are beggars. I teach a number of Roma children and while a large number of them hardly attend and have very poor levels of English and education, there are a number of them who come from families who have always worked and who hold great contempt for 'the others'.

connundrum · 22-02-2007 08:28PM

Two weeks ago I had taken out the rubbish and there was an awful smell in the house so I opened the front and back doors to let air in. I had gone into the kitchen for literally 2 seconds and there was a small Roma girl inside my front door.

I'll stop there and say that we never have our front door open, in fact its usually locked even when people are inside during the day.

I let out a yelp as soon as I saw her as she had literally shocked the crap outa me, she stopped in her tracks and said 'Change?'. I just pointed to the door and she went out, her mam was waiting at the gate for her.

It was nuts that the one time I left the door open, she was in inside in a second. Obviously it was coincidence, as I don't believe that people are hiding in the bushes waiting for an open door.

As a matter of principle I tell em all to feck off if they show up at the front door, beggars, people looking to wash windows, people looking to shove junk mail through the door, everyone.

I, cynically perhaps, refuse to give over money to street beggars who have more expensive runners than I do. I've always had that policy.

tallus · 22-02-2007 08:30PM

spurious wrote:

Not all Roma are beggars. I teach a number of Roma children and while a large number of them hardly attend and have very poor levels of English and education, there are a number of them who come from families who have always worked and who hold great contempt for 'the others'.

That's good to hear spurious.
Personally I dont give to beggars.

:| · 22-02-2007 08:41PM

There's a little boy who spends his time in McDonalds in Grafton St begging with a sign thats not in english. He wrecks my head cos he'll come around a few times while i'm sitting there, ffs im just trying to eat in peace

Rb · 22-02-2007 08:43PM

layke wrote:

Nope, they're on par with the people who sit at the Luas station on Stephen's green and ask you for spare change while you buy your ticket knowing full well you have a hand full of it. Once or twice is ok, but I found that if that scheme is working word get's out and they come back in greater numbers.

Its gotten worse, Layke, now the chuggers have caught on and were standing at the LUAS ticket machines at the Dundrum Bridge, amongst others this morning. F*ckers.

I wouldn't give anyone who came to my door looking for money a single red cent either. I give homeless people money most days, but the fact that some actually come to your home to ask you for money...well...they're just lucky they don't get a kettle full of boiling water over them.

_Kaiser_ · 22-02-2007 09:15PM

I don't give to beggars or chuggers on the street/my doorstep.. simple as really.

If they're that much in need there's organisations out there to help.

MAYPOP · 22-02-2007 10:06PM

I only give money to animal rescue charities. Beggars should be arrested and beaten.

Hagar · 22-02-2007 10:58PM

madhitchhiker wrote:

If I were in her shoe I would have done the same.

All that money and Heather McCartney is begging as well...

Chucky the tree · 23-02-2007 02:03AM

I make sure they give me a blowjob before getting my €2.

englander · 23-02-2007 11:29AM

Probably down to working class, non-religious upbringing but I get very annoyed with people when I see them give to people on the streets/under cashpoints.

Dont you get it ? They will never go away. They will always be there if you give money. Even if they dont really need it, they will be there even if they have enough for essentials.

I do not want to be hassled by beggars when in my house or walking down the street etc.

I want to eat my food in peace without having to shoo beggars away.

I want to get cash out of the machine without thinking the skanker looking up at me (in his sleeping bag) may pull a knife.

While I am at it I dont want to be approached by Chuggers. They are only there because of the few of you who insist on talking to them and handing over your bank details !

If you want to do some real good, put pressure on the government to provide the essentials and get these people off the streets or set up a soup kitchen or something.

Giving a euro to a beggar may make you feel good and give you a better chance of going to heaven :rolleyes: , but is not solving anything.

Attol · 23-02-2007 12:01PM

I will not give anything to beggars after my experiences working in town. I work on the northside and have seen some total scammers. There's this one junkie who begs, goes to play the pods in video game shops and then gets trashed or high. I know this because I've seen him with his cans and one unfortunate time had the displeasure of sharing a bus journey with him. He was smoking and talking away to his friend without a care in the world with a can in his hand. I've seen this scumbag grab a child's hat and throw it to the floor when the kid was playing on a game pod because the grown man wanted to play. He works on intimidation and it is disgusting.

I've seen 14 year old girls dressed up with their little handbag beside them begging on the street. Beggars on fancy mobiles. A neighbour gave one some clothes and food and we found them dumped in our garden later that day. There are so many reasons at this point that I just can't give to them. The Roma ones are really rather aggressive too. A friend's sister was slapped in the face by one because she wouldn't give her change.

Zambia · 23-02-2007 01:56PM

I once knew a bloke who made IRL£120 on Dublins Grafton St a Day. Said he would keep doing it as it was the only way to pay for his Habit.

I also once saw a beggar insert 5 cent into the Card slot of one of the AIB Banklink on grafton st so everyong had to queue by the one he was at.

I also knew a guy who faked being handicaped to beg.

If Roma gypsies can afford to fly here they should have saved a little longer and brought food.

I also had these feckers at the door Im with Biko on that.

Sorry I work bloody hard at a job I dont like so I dont have to beg , let them do likewise.

Shooting is too good for the lot of them.

Beggar at my door

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