asked to leave zara!!!

the_future · 07-02-2007 6:46pm #1

ok, very strange thing happened to me just there, and was wondering if anyone here works in a zara clothes shop or has any idea what has just happened!

i went in to zara. wearing an abercrombie hoodie and jeans. im 20, student, just spent 200 euro there 2 days ago on a suit, and then went in today to buy a shirt for 40.

asked a guy about sizes, and thanked him. went in to try on try on the shirt, and came out with it going to buy it, and went to look for a tie. then this guy who worked there wearing a suit tapped me on the shoulder and said something. i couldnt understand what he said, as i didnt understand his accent, but i thought he mistook me for someone else and was saying hello, so i said hey to him.

then like a minute later he came back and said, "hey man.... go", like he had told me already. i asked him why, and he said "just go". he said i did nothing wrong, and not to worry about it.

i told him im going up to buy this shirt, and so i did. then afterwards he came up, and i asked him why again. i asked him was i on some reality show, and he laughed and said no. he was being friendly with me, and said not to worry about it, that i just had to go.....

he said if we see each other outside the shop, we can talk about it.....

does anyone have any idea what this was about or if this is even legal????!!!

melekalikimaka · 07-02-2007 6:50pm

hahaha, were you playing sports and sweating heavily shortly before it?

the_future · 07-02-2007 6:53pm

technically, i was in the gym a while before hand, but i dont see how that would have made a difference....

im in there a good bit, and im sure most of the guys there know me to see, but today was the first time i saw this guy.... i was with my friend at the time and hes baffled too.

melekalikimaka · 07-02-2007 6:55pm

ya sure he worked there and wasnt ripping the peepee

KdjaCL · 07-02-2007 6:56pm

What time was it at?

kdjac

the_future · 07-02-2007 7:01pm

was at around half four i think. im pretty sure he worked there, as he was dressed in a suit, and rushing around and what not, and thought he worked there, before he said anything....

the only reason i can think of, is because i was wearing a hoodie.... but it was an abercrombie hoodie!!

i had spoken to another guy before him asking about sizes, and he helped me fine, and i thanked him. same last monday when i bought the suit. its really bizarre.

Cake Fiend · 07-02-2007 7:07pm

I've yet to figure out why you left. You should have insisted that you would leave in your own good time unless given a proper, fully explained reason.

the_future · 07-02-2007 7:10pm

i dont know why i left. i stayed and repeatadely asked him for a reason, but didnt get one. its ridiculous.

my friend is a solicitor tyoe person, im going to go in with him this or next week, to see if it happens again, if hes there, and if not to ask another member of staff.

surely this cant be legal. i spent 240 euro with them in the last 2 days to get this sort of treatment.

emeraldstar · 07-02-2007 7:32pm

the_future wrote:

im pretty sure he worked there, as he was dressed in a suit, and rushing around and what not,

did he have kinda bleached blondy hair? british accent?

Rb · 07-02-2007 8:13pm

Cake Fiend wrote:

I've yet to figure out why you left. You should have insisted that you would leave in your own good time unless given a proper, fully explained reason.

I agree. Personally (though I've never, ever been removed from a store before) I would ask to speak to a manager, then go mad at the manager for the embarrassment caused in the whole thing.

If you kick up a fuss if they leave a tag on clothes which sets off the alarms, claim you were humiliated etc. most stores will offer a discount or some other form of compensation (something I found out from working in a store), I can only imagine how obliging they'd be if you went mad over something like this.

OP: Find out where you stand legally over it and go in and talk to the manager, if anything I'd be out to get this guy removed from his job.

damnyanks · 07-02-2007 9:01pm

Well obviously they thought you were trying to steal something.

Saruman · 07-02-2007 9:08pm

Thats strange!! Maybe he thought he was the fasion police or something, i mean abercrombie? Jaysus

Tell you what ill meet you in there some time.. you in your abercrombie hoodie and me in my Gap hoodie! We will see who gets kicked out then

Sad Professor · 07-02-2007 9:21pm

Who knows? Maybe the guy was just a weirdo. Maybe he thought you were stealing or that you'd been in before stealing. Maybe he thought you worked there and was telling you to go home. Shop managers tend to be morons, it's a requirement of their job.

brianthebard · 07-02-2007 9:48pm

I can't believe you bought the shirt after that OP! I'd definitely go back tomorrow (bring your receipt) and find out what the problem was.

unreggd · 07-02-2007 10:59pm

Maybe he fancied you, and couldnt bare bein around you so asked you to leave

He said you did nothin wrong, and implied he'd see you outside work

haha, ye never know!

Anyways... I dont think I've ever seen any Zara staff in suits. Whats Zara was it?
They could be from the new series of Naked Camera, although I fail to see the funny side

You shudda rolled around the floor screamin like a baby

Maybe the AF hoody made you come across as D4

Theres a few explanations to play around with

stovelid · 08-02-2007 10:02am

Maybe it was mistaken identity OP? A previous customer who looked like you may have been in grief there? I agree that you should have asked for the manager.

the_future · 08-02-2007 10:59am

im going back today to ask for the manager i think. bring my friend with me whos like a solicitor, so should be funny.

if he thought i was a thief then why did he seem interested in seeing me outside the shop.... why would he want to talk to a thief??

the thought of it being some chat up line is actually one of my biggest theories. after i bought the shirt, he was talking to me like i had just bought something huge, and his tone was that of a "have a good day now sir" type.

he thanked me for my custom while still telling me to go. i just cant understand it!! i asked him was i on a reality tv show, because i couldnt think of any other explaination!!

this was a new guy i think. i had never seen him there before, he was dark skinned, and i was having difficulty understanding his accent. in the suit section there, they all seem to wear suits.

luckat · 08-02-2007 11:03am

Just don't shop there again. They don't want your money, spend it with someone else who does.

unreggd · 08-02-2007 3:30pm

luckat wrote:

Just don't shop there again. They don't want your money, spend it with someone else who does.

I disagree

If you like the clothes you should be able to shop when and where you please

And the money doesnt go near that guy, hes at the bottom of a long chain of workers. Go back on Valentines day

dceire · 08-02-2007 6:59pm

Its sounds like you have a good case of Defamation of character he threw you out of the store for no good reason which is enough to lower you in the estimation of right-thinking members of soceity ie. Defamation!

Nice bit of compo maybe!!!

Garret · 08-02-2007 10:09pm

Surely they have the right of admission reserved, so they should be grand legally

but then there was that member of the travelling community that won a civil case against a pub about this a couple of years ago

my answer is i dont know

Creamy Goodness · 08-02-2007 10:16pm

Garret wrote:

Surely they have the right of admission reserved, so they should be grand legally

yeh but only if given valid reason.

ie. in a pub someone gets thrown out for being too drunk, the drunk asks why? publican responds with you were too drunk/causing a mess.

the orignal poster was just shopping like normal like anyone would do in a shop if that's a valid reason in the employee's eyes then give me my pope hat.

simu · 08-02-2007 10:55pm

emeraldstar wrote:

did he have kinda bleached blondy hair? british accent?

Why do you ask? Is there some kid of scam artist of that description who goes around throwing people out of shops?

cast_iron · 08-02-2007 11:18pm

the_future wrote:

im going back today to ask for the manager i think. bring my friend with me whos like a solicitor, so should be funny.

Does that mean he is similar to a solicitor, or is it supposed to read "he's loike, a solicitor loike, so should be funny loike."

Siogfinsceal · 09-02-2007 12:27pm

what a freak - can believe you bought the shirt!! also cant believe you left. Id have asked for the manager and demanded they explain why he was being so ignorant!

miamee · 09-02-2007 1:54pm

Siogfinsceal wrote:

what a freak - can believe you bought the shirt!! also cant believe you left. Id have asked for the manager and demanded they explain why he was being so ignorant!

Why is everyone so surprised he left? He bought the shirt & left, that's what he went in for! I certainly wouldn;t be camping out if someone madea show of me either & they weren't talking sense!

the_future · 09-02-2007 2:35pm

i bought the shirt because i wanted the shirt.

i didnt go running out of the shop when he said. i took plenty of time, and asked him, plenty of times for his reasons, but in retrospect, i should have asked for the manager.

this was in the zara on henry street or mary street down beside the spyre if anyone is wondering.

on the other hand, i went to zara in dundrum yesterday, and they were more than helpful to me. huge contrast which just showed how wrong what happened in mary street was!!

Time Magazine · 09-02-2007 2:44pm

the_future wrote:

i went in to zara. wearing an abercrombie hoodie

There's your problem

.

Bluetonic · 09-02-2007 2:49pm

dceire wrote:

Its sounds like you have a good case of Defamation of character he threw you out of the store for no good reason which is enough to lower you in the estimation of right-thinking members of soceity ie. Defamation!

Nice bit of compo maybe!!!

Learn what defamation of character is before giving someone advice like that.

Karl Hungus · 09-02-2007 3:31pm

simu wrote:

Why do you ask? Is there some kid of scam artist of that description who goes around throwing people out of shops?

It's a trick, get an axe! :eek:

Miguel_Sanchez · 09-02-2007 4:29pm

the_future wrote:

the only reason i can think of, is because i was wearing a hoodie.... but it was an abercrombie hoodie!!

That's one of the funniest things I've read today.

An abercrombie hoodie? Because that shows that you're obviously a high-class individual who would never steal. Nobody who wears Abercrombie could do anything wrong.

It's a brand name. And a pretty bland one at that. It doesn't mean **** all. Just because they overcharge for the hoodies doesn't mean you're somehow a special case or anything.

Royale with Cheese · 09-02-2007 4:59pm

Jeff_Lebowski wrote:

That's one of the funniest things I've read today.

An abercrombie hoodie? Because that shows that you're obviously a high-class individual who would never steal. Nobody who wears Abercrombie could do anything wrong.

It's a brand name. And a pretty bland one at that. It doesn't mean **** all. Just because they overcharge for the hoodies doesn't mean you're somehow a special case or anything.

I think you're missing the point. He's saying the only reason he thinks he might have been thrown out is because the clerk (or random nut job) assumed something about his personality or identity because of what he was wearing, i.e. people who wear hoodies are scum. Assuming the clerk was using this logic then it's also a stereotype that Abercrombie hoodies are only worn by middle class teenagers, who aren't perceived to be scum.

He's only suggesting it's a possibility that this person made a judgement on his character based on what he was wearing.

Deflector · 09-02-2007 7:13pm

I think that's exactly the point Jeff was making, hence I also find the inital wide-eyed statement quite hilarious.

Bbbbut - I'm like, middle class like! :eek:

Cake Fiend · 09-02-2007 7:35pm

the_future wrote:

surely this cant be legal.

I don't know where you get that idea, particularly as noone actually forced you to leave.

MarkR · 09-02-2007 7:46pm

I'm still leaning towards the sweaty thing. I can't think of any other reason why you'd be asked to leave unless you were causing some kind of olfactory disturbance...

the_future · 10-02-2007 7:55pm

ok, if anyones wondering, i went back yesterday to see the manager, and he was baffled by the story too. he said that theres going to be an investigation carried out, about what happened.

Lump · 10-02-2007 7:58pm

eh.... he has a right to ask you to leave.

John

the_future · 10-02-2007 8:12pm

why does he have a right to ask me to leave?

Lump · 10-02-2007 8:37pm

Cause it's his shop, or he's incharge of it...... And he has the right to ask you to leave a private property. Once he doesn't touch you.

John

Tails142 · 10-02-2007 8:38pm

Because it's the law...

Management reserves the right to refuse admission?

Or like, have you never seen that sign like?

So what, some security guard asked you to leave, you and your friend were probably acting the mick - what's so confusing about this? :rolleyes:

If you're unhappy with your service dont shop there again.

the_future · 10-02-2007 8:47pm

you clearly dont understand what i am saying.

i went back to the manager yesterday to say everything that happened, and he was very apologetic, and said and seemed baffled that this had actually happened, and assured me to not be put off shopping there because of this.

i wasnt "acting the mick", as i have already made clear on numerous occasions in this post. i had spent 240 euro in the shop within 48 hours of the incident, was looking to buy more, and i was asked to leave for no reason.

matrim · 10-02-2007 10:18pm

Unless the manager fully knows what happens, he will always be very apologetic and say that it will be looked into. It's what a manager does. I've worked in a shop and had people be pissed off about something. Despite the fact that I was right the manager would sometimes take to customers side because the way they see it, is that unless he is nice to the customer, they might not come back and might tell their friends

11-02-2007 4:43am

the_future wrote:

the only reason i can think of, is because i was wearing a hoodie.... but it was an abercrombie hoodie!!

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A hoody is a hoody,I am afraid.Would not really wear Abercrombie hoody.Everybody has them and they are becoming chavish.Abercrombie's other clothes are way nice imo.

cast_iron · 11-02-2007 11:00am

This hoody thing is getting a bit ridiculous.
The fact that the it was Abercrombie is irrelevant. I think what the poster was trying to allude to, was the fact that he appeared like a respectable person. In daily life, tons of young people wear hoodies, but it can still be fairly easy to tell their social class/address.
A gross generalisation, I know, but by and large true.

dceire · 11-02-2007 12:36pm

Bluetonic wrote:

Learn what defamation of character is before giving someone advice like that.

Ok, then Bluetonic, explain it to me then??? I was looking at my law notes on Defamation from college when I came across this post. Notes given to me by my lecturer who is a lawyer who sued a British retail outlet successfully over a similar incident!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defamation#Privilege_and_malice

faceman · 11-02-2007 12:46pm

Zara hasnt doin anything legally wrong, altho they have given off a poor impression of themselves. Defamation doesnt apply here.

If you went back the next day and the manager profusely apologies then you have to consider it case closed. Although you do seem to think you're great cos you wear some brand name hoodie and your mate is like a solicitor so maybe you should chill a bit!

joking aside, when i was 20 i would probably be goin flipper too but as you get older you realise that its the shop who loses and not you.

you were a fool for buying the shirt tho.

if you feel tha strongely about it, write them an old fashion letter

Garret · 11-02-2007 8:57pm

quick question, had you taken a shower after the gym?

cast_iron · 12-02-2007 12:01am

dceire wrote:

Ok, then Bluetonic, explain it to me then??? I was looking at my law notes on Defamation from college when I came across this post. Notes given to me by my lecturer who is a lawyer who sued a British retail outlet successfully over a similar incident!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defamation#Privilege_and_malice

I only ignored your comment the first time as it appeared you had no idea what you were on about. The fact you it appears you may study law is kinda worrying.
Try looking it up again, then, more importantly, look to see how it would apply (or wouldn't) in this case.

Sangre · 12-02-2007 12:50am

Dceire, defamation does not apply here. One reason of many is that his image hasn't been lowered in the eyes of the public. No one knows he was removed or that he was asked to leave for stealing.

Defamation also requires an element of untruth. I don't recall any lies being told or being announced to those surrounding him.

Minfadlek · 12-02-2007 1:25pm

IMO you should go back in again, in a suit (preferably a better/nicer one than theirs') and see the Manager again, to ask him for an update on his 'investigation'. You must have a right to know about something that involves YOU...!? Bring someone with you, someone intimidating...

Sangre wrote:

Dceire, defamation does not apply here. One reason of many is that his image hasn't been lowered in the eyes of the public. No one knows he was removed

His image may have been lowered in the eyes of his friend, a member of the public...

Sangre · 12-02-2007 4:47pm

His image hasn't been lowered. His friend doesn't think any less of him because of it.

Unless you have a case citation for that I'm highly sceptical. Truth is a complete defence of defamation. If his card was in fact declined then he couldn't have a case.

It would be different if they said it was declined because he had no money (and it was in reality just a faulty card). Cards get declined all the time (I know I work in a bank), if shops were open to such liability they wouldn't ask for them.

Humiliation doesn't not equal defamation. Defamation is the spreading of lies about someone.

asked to leave zara!!!

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