Are You Afraid Of Downloading Torrents?

mick.fr · 26-01-2007 01:13PM

Avoid to download Irish music if you allow me to suggest you.
Some groups in Ireland are after that and have requests ISP logs.

Anyway this all thing is about being ripped off all the time by the big media blues, isn't?
All the big ones have not been able to develop online services and are still trying to make sales through usual and old sales channels. Some singers have understood this and are providing full albums or single on their websites.

I would be happy to pay an online service to get all my favourite TV shows such as Surface, BSG, ...legally and at a non rip-off price. But I guess this is too much to ask.

Plus being really tired of all those ads on TV, too much is too much, we are not stupid cows for god sake. Everybody needs a living sure, but too much is too much.

AntiRip · 26-01-2007 02:16PM

not sure if anyone of ye have seen the video called piracy is good? It's easily found through a search. But basically it's an australian presentation about torrents and how television died on nov 2004 when bsg was first shown on sky one before anywhere else in the world and the guy makes an argument that the tv stations can actually make more money through torrents if they advertised discreet dogs on the shows because they'd have a worldwide audience. Also, some shows wouldn't be as successful at all only for torrents because one person d/l something and then tell his friends of this 'great' show who did d/l's it and so on. Apparently Australians are the biggest downloaders...

tuxy · 26-01-2007 03:00PM

jimbling wrote:

what software etc do you use for the newsgroups? Has it gotten easier to search etc?
Just remember using some of these before and just finding it a nightmare to make your way around.... and searching for particular stuff was a pain as well.

I use newsleecher with super search $30 a year . It has a search with most files avilable cached, very fast to find what you want.
Then pay $15 a month for access to a good newsgroup server.
Some people might find that expensive, but the euro to dollar conversion makes it very cheap and well worth it for me because I download about 100 gb a month.
Once you use it going back to torrents would be unbearable.

You all realise that your isp can in most cases see exactly what you are downloading?

Ya but the organisations have to have some kind of proof before isp logs can be requested. They can see what files peope are sharing by logging onto p2p networks but newsgroup's are not p2p.

AntiRip · 27-03-2007 04:17AM

tuxy wrote:

Ya but the organisations have to have some kind of proof before isp logs can be requested. They can see what files peope are sharing by logging onto p2p networks but newsgroup's are not p2p.

Does PeerGuardian protect you at all? Also there is a box you can tick in utorrent that encrypts your data (if it works at all!) I also found afew site with streaming videos that you just view on your browser which is handy if you don't want to d/l the show..

Khannie · 27-03-2007 11:29AM

This thread makes Khannie nervous. In particular, I don't want any further discussion of binary newsgroups until I've cleared up what the overall position on them is....

Anti · 27-03-2007 11:52AM

krazy_8s wrote:

You all realise that your isp can in most cases see exactly what you are downloading?

Yes ofcourse, but why would they want to see what you have downloaded unless asked. They dont give a funk at all, unless the guards ask for your internet history.

ActorSeeksJob · 27-03-2007 11:58AM

Peerguardian does seem to protect you to some extent, just looking @ some of the ip's it blocks will show you.

Khannie · 27-03-2007 12:29PM

In fact, I don't want any discussion that will help people download copyrighted material. Peerguardian, for example, is only useful in this context.

AntiRip · 28-03-2007 05:02AM

Khannie wrote:

In fact, I don't want any discussion that will help people download copyrighted material. Peerguardian, for example, is only useful in this context.

I thought if you didn't name any sites or talked about any particulars it was ok. I did't think it was illegal to talk about things that were illegal but fair enough I know where you're coming from. Once you start discussing a topic like this it doesn't take too long before it starts escalating and it then gets to the point where you have to make the call. I'm the OP and I've gotton my answers so there should be no more on the topic.

challengemaster · 28-03-2007 08:50AM

tuxy wrote:

And I only have 3 mbit, in some countries that would be considered slow.

uhm.. in pretty much any country bar ireland, thats considered slow tbh.

Khannie · 28-03-2007 10:54AM

AntiRip wrote:

I thought if you didn't name any sites or talked about any particulars it was ok.

For torrents, it is ok, because they're used for legitimate purposes all the time. Newsgroups don't fall into the same category.

AntiRip wrote:

I did't think it was illegal to talk about things that were illegal but fair enough I know where you're coming from. Once you start discussing a topic like this it doesn't take too long before it starts escalating and it then gets to the point where you have to make the call.

That's the unfortunate reality alright. Hell, I don't want to stifle conversation, but the line is blurry sometimes.

AntiRip wrote:

I'm the OP and I've gotton my answers so there should be no more on the topic.

Ah, this is an organic discussion type thread. I'll leave it as is for now.

For what it's worth....I'd be nervous about downloading films (or anything that comes on dvd) with torrents on the public network.

Dankoozy · 28-03-2007 10:26PM

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Banned for posting links to copyright material.

I think this thread has served it's purpose.

Are You Afraid Of Downloading Torrents?

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