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Found out my gf is underage.

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 27,470 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    The law was clearly broken but since it was concensual(spelling?), aren't the girl and the OP equally at fault?

    That's the point - the law says if she is underage, there could not have been consent.

    Hopefully the OP (and others) have learned a lesson.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 598 ✭✭✭arseagon


    No the girl is 14. That's not considered old enough for her to give her consent of her own free will therefore making it illegal.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 38 hmmmm


    Victor wrote:
    Would you have married people banend form nightclubs in case they went home with the wrong person?
    Of course not, the difference is that it is not illegal for married people to cheat.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 496 ✭✭j0e


    zippy28 wrote:
    No the girl is 14. That's not considered old enough for her to give her consent of her own free will therefore making it illegal.

    so if he gets a piece of paper from her parents saying its ok the shag is on?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,099 ✭✭✭RealJohn


    Haven't read through all the posts so apologies if there's any repetition here.

    If you had had sex with her the first night, it would have been illegal but the chances are you'd get away with it since you're 18 and you met her in a nightclub. You could reasonably argue you thought she was 18 too.

    However, if you start a relationship with her, you will lose that defence and could potentially wind up on the sex-offenders register. I doubt that's something you want at 18.

    There will be other hot girls man. Tell her how it is and let her go. Who knows, in 4 years time, she might still be hot and very appreciative you didn't take advantage of her.

    One way or the other, cover yourself. Let her go.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,005 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    'Just check out the age of consent in other countries in Europe and then realise that they had condoms legal before 1991.
    As for Ireland, it's not exactly a country that fights for individual rights with the nanny state interfering.'


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 267 ✭✭joeybloggs


    Just remember the classic rule which allows you to find out '' How Low Can You Go! '' Its the PLAYGROUND RULE

    # Half you age Plus 7.



    Its a simple rule which even a fourteen year old can figure out. It allows even the most succesful fourty year old get down and dirty with his twenty-seven year old gold digger girlfriend.


    So lets do maths.

    18 divided by 2 = 9
    9 Plus 7 = 16

    Ergo PLAYGROUND RULE says she is under the limit.







    Next week: The letters R, U and N


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,401 ✭✭✭✭Anti


    Elessar wrote:
    It's funny how the law works. The government is taking it in the wrong direction, for the sake of the frothing at the mouth masses. I have always been puzzled why issues such as age of consent and anything to do with under 18s brings about such extreme and sometimes violent reactions from the public :confused:

    It's even worse in North America. There was a case recently where a 15/16 year old boy was sent to jail for 10 years for receiving a blowjob from a 14 year old girl. The girl was never charged with anything.

    *sigh* It will be a long long time before society matures to some decent level.


    I think i seen a post in S&S the other day by telesin. That in some us states. Oral sex is actuall illegal......


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,856 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    Miss Fluff wrote:
    12 + 2 = 14

    That's right, she is a mere two years older than a 12 year old.

    That made me lol -- nice rationale! :D

    I'd say get outa there OP. There are many many MANY hot 18 year olds. Your gf might be hot, but I'll bet there's thousands of hotter 18 year olds. I'll bet any money!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 73 ✭✭custardcreams


    obv you let this one slip by passport control

    your a geebag and should be whipped with the belt of stupidity.

    i hope you get a sixer pal. your irresponsible sc-m.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 73 ✭✭custardcreams


    the law was floundering between mr a being let out and kept in against ..our constitution. As it happens public opinion own out and justice in ireland was kicked in the c-nt. But what price , what price they roar from the rafters. No price. Peace of mind for some over eager parents picketing leinster house in the run up to a ''poll'' for this year election. Plus the whole thing is nasty to the senses. OP you have balls posting here. IP address is handy to retrieve, You aint anonymous. Gardai might like it unless internet cafe prints. Everyone is skirting the fact you should be given the chance to change the constitution and get posibly a little rainwater grace from ''i didnt know'', even though ignorance is no defence and its not holland. Clown. Clowno. When or if you get sent, special treatment is reserved for your conviction. Boiling water. Not a pretty sight.

    * the username of the OP smells of bulls-it. I believe he is illiciting a response rather than evoked a reaction to an actual deed. QED - Cu,t.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    custardcreams banned for one week. Please contact me or another moderator to have it lifted. dudara


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 153 ✭✭darkflower


    I'd say get out of there quick, you'll only get yourself into trouble.

    Agree! Don't waste time bro.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,005 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    'maybe the parents were gone on holidays, like skiing or something, it is that time of year. perhaps she was left with an older sibling. maybe the older sibling brought the girl to the club, dressed her up to look older so she could join in on the fun. albeit disgusting fun.'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,649 ✭✭✭Catari Jaguar


    Unregwr wrote:
    'Part of me wonders how you didn't have some idea of her age. We're talking 14! At a stretch I could understand some trickery if she was 16 but 14?!?!?! You fool.
    In any event end it before you end up in court. Tell Lolita to take a hike'

    My lil cousin was 13 got pregnant by her 19 year old bloke. She was seeing him since she was 12, and she had a very developed body, everyone used to think she was her older sister's (20) big sister!

    Girl's that age are like bitches in heat and they will sneak around and lie. She was never where she said she was, had secret phones, was stealing money and skiving school etc.

    So it is very plausible that the OP's girl IS 14 and in a night club. She might LOOK older but she has a child's mentality and immaturity. Dump her now, before she gets serious and can turn malicious.

    Also, at 14, it's not just statutory rape for full intercourse, it's doing anything sexual. So you could technically be arrested. That's what I've heard anyways. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,649 ✭✭✭Catari Jaguar


    Anti wrote:
    That is very true.

    But when have you seen a 14 year old boy actually looks 18 ?

    A guy I know is now in 4th year I think, known him for a while now. I thought he was in 5th year when he was in 2nd year and 14! He was going to clubs in town etc, he slept with a 30 year old when he was 15.

    So yea, it happens!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,045 ✭✭✭Húrin


    Underreged wrote:
    She seems faily infatuated with me, maybe that's just cause of her age. I dunno how much i like her. I do think shes hot though. I take it it'll have to end?
    She's infatuated with you because her hormones are all over the place. Stop this now.

    She might brag about pulling an 18 year old guy to her school friends; you however will probably get nothing but disgust if you say you're going out with a 14 year old.

    There, two reasons why you must get out now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,904 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    j0e wrote:
    so if he gets a piece of paper from her parents saying its ok the shag is on?
    No.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 27,470 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    Lil Kitten wrote:
    Girl's that age are like bitches in heat and they will sneak around and lie.

    :eek:

    That is why the law has to protect them. It doesn't take an awful lot of conversation to if not be sure, certainly have doubts about a young person's stated age. Of course if someone's mind is on something else they won't be looking for signs the person is underage.

    There's no real excuse and blaming the underage person is abhorrent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,904 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    By the way OP, have you seen / read Trainspotting?
    [Mark has spent the previous night having sex with Diane only to realize she was an underage schoolgirl]

    Diane: Well, what's the matter, Mark?
    Mark "Rent-boy" Renton: It's you that's what's wrong!
    Diane: Well at least us hold hands.
    Mark "Rent-boy" Renton: No, we're not holding hands!
    Diane: No? But you seemed a lot more happy to do more last night. There's nothing wrong with it.
    Mark "Rent-boy" Renton: Its illegal that's what's wrong with it! You know what they do to people like me in prison? They cut your balls off and flush them down the toilet.
    Diane: Relax, you're not going to prison.
    Mark "Rent-boy" Renton: That's very easy for you to say Diane!
    Diane: Well, are you going to see me again?
    Mark "Rent-boy" Renton: No, Diane!
    Diane: If you don't see me again, I'll tell the police.
    Mark "Rent-boy" Renton: [turns around and stares at Diane blankly]
    Diane: All right, I'll see you around then.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 38 hmmmm


    spurious wrote:
    :eek:

    That is why the law has to protect them. It doesn't take an awful lot of conversation to if not be sure, certainly have doubts about a young person's stated age. Of course if someone's mind is on something else they won't be looking for signs the person is underage.

    There's no real excuse and blaming the underage person is abhorrent.
    I know 25 year olds that have the mentality of 14 years and vice-versa. I don't think it is that simple. Plus, with drink involved in a nightclub...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 944 ✭✭✭Captain Trips


    Victor wrote:
    By the way OP, have you seen / read Trainspotting?


    TRainspotting is a good example, so is Hard Candy!


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 98,308 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    can't remember the exact quote from Mr Roberts but it went something like

    over sixty they are protected by mother nature
    under sixteen they are protected by the law
    in between they are fair game


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