Are you a snob?

o1s1n · 04-01-2007 09:03PM

Drove through there recently. You really do all try and outdo each other with Christmas decorations. What's that about?!

Sofaspud · 04-01-2007 09:10PM

o1s1n wrote:

Drove through there recently. You really do all try and outdo each other with Christmas decorations. What's that about?!

"keeping up with the Joneses"

It's snobbery

o1s1n · 04-01-2007 09:18PM

"Pff, they only have two reindeer flashing statues, we have eight!"
"yeah, feckin losers"

The Corinthian · 04-01-2007 09:47PM

Lil Kitten wrote:

We're still so insecure about that that now that we have a bit of cash we make our own class systems to keep up with the Jones and look down on each other to feel secure.

That’s not exactly the same as a class system though. A class system tends to be defined not only by the material but also by a subculture – someone is of a class because they will tend to have certain attitudes, interests and outlooks. A classic example is university education; with the middle classes being obsessed with it, the lower rejecting it and the upper classes generally being ambivalent.

What you’re describing are the nouvelle riche who are originally either lower or middle class and are, in a ham-fisted fashion, attempting to buy their way into a higher class. They won’t of course, but their offspring will grow up adopting the attitudes of the new class and so they will.

That’s how it works. In reverse, an impoverished duke is still a duke, but unable to educate his offspring to the level he was they’ll end up ‘slumming it’ with the hoi polloi. They may eventually inherit a title, but you’d never have guessed it with the accents they’ll have.

And that’s what appears to be happening at present, although whether the newfound wealth of the Irish new rich lasts long enough to place their descendants up the ladder is another matter.

netwhizkid · 04-01-2007 09:56PM

I consider myself a Snob and sometimes it can't be helped. I drive a nice car and hang out with nice people and do like to boast alot. When in a an unknown social situation I feel comfortable in the fact that I can talk the talk and there is almost an unwritten club that all my peers are part of. Brandy and Cigar's plus the world of Business, Wealth & Politics.

I do try and fit in with the average person and I back the working mans politics very much so, I am in essence an upper middle class wealthy snob with too much time and money on my hands and I promote the social ideals of the common man. What would other view me as from my 2,000+ postings here?

Dudess · 04-01-2007 09:58PM

But I think people are confusing disliking scumbags with snobbery. That's not snobbery - it's completely understandable. A lot of people appear quite hard on themselves by saying that they do consider themselves snobs because they don't like knackers (as in, scumbags). Only very idiotic people would dislike those who don't have money and live in a council estate but are decent people.

Backtoblack · 04-01-2007 10:03PM

netwhizkid wrote:

I consider myself a Snob and sometimes it can't be helped. I drive a nice car and hang out with nice people and do like to boast alot. When in a an unknown social situation I feel comfortable in the fact that I can talk the talk and there is almost an unwritten club that all my peers are part of. Brandy and Cigar's plus the world of Business, Wealth & Politics.

I do try and fit in with the average person and I back the working mans politics very much so, I am in essence an upper middle class wealthy snob with too much time and money on my hands and I promote the social ideals of the common man. What would other view me as from my 2,000+ postings here?

Ye have cigars and brandy down in Kerry now do ye??
I thought it was rollies and potin ye were reared on!! :rolleyes:

netwhizkid · 04-01-2007 10:04PM

Backtoblack wrote:

Ye have cigars and brandy down in Kerry now do ye??
I thought it was rollies and potin ye were reared on!! :rolleyes:

That sounds like Snob talk to me so it does

Dudess · 04-01-2007 10:04PM

Backtoblack: It's irony, dude... at least I think it is?

Backtoblack · 04-01-2007 10:06PM

netwhizkid wrote:

That sounds like Snob talk to me so it does

nah.... I'm from Cork!!

(Nice post!)

Matthewthebig · 04-01-2007 10:06PM

netwhizkid wrote:

I consider myself a Snob and sometimes it can't be helped. I drive a nice car and hang out with nice people and do like to boast alot. When in a an unknown social situation I feel comfortable in the fact that I can talk the talk and there is almost an unwritten club that all my peers are part of. Brandy and Cigar's plus the world of Business, Wealth & Politics.

I do try and fit in with the average person and I back the working mans politics very much so, I am in essence an upper middle class wealthy snob with too much time and money on my hands and I promote the social ideals of the common man. What would other view me as from my 2,000+ postings here?

You yet again prove yourself

Backtoblack · 04-01-2007 10:07PM

Dudess wrote:

Backtoblack: It's irony, dude... at least I think it is?

He/she is from kerry... its bull!!!!

(just messing with the kerry dude)

Smellyirishman · 04-01-2007 10:11PM

Dudess wrote:

Backtoblack: It's irony, dude... at least I think it is?

BtB is a Dudess, much like yourself. Unless you were being ironic?

brianthebard · 04-01-2007 10:12PM

Dudess wrote:

But I think people are confusing disliking scumbags with snobbery. That's not snobbery - it's completely understandable. A lot of people appear quite hard on themselves by saying that they do consider themselves snobs because they don't like knackers (as in, scumbags). Only very idiotic people would dislike those who don't have money and live in a council estate but are decent people.

So its ok to hate then?? great. I hate people who hate people....

InFront · 04-01-2007 10:21PM

Ha! I've endured far too many minimum wage jobs in my time and am too reliant on public transport to ever consider myself a snob. And I hope it stays that way.

I'm no psychologist, but do know some people whose snobbery would (at least appear) to be a manifestation of some sort of personal insecurity. I just don't see the point in it, at the end of the day we're all just naked bags of bones with personality attached.

A snobby personality isn't necessarily a bad one, but it does seem completely futile. Regardless of how much we wish it to be so, and even if it is a cliché, bank balance or postal code is really not going to mean anything for your personality whatever way you look at it.

Geek Nose · 04-01-2007 10:26PM

netwhizkid wrote:

I consider myself a Snob and sometimes it can't be helped. I drive a nice car and hang out with nice people and do like to boast alot. When in a an unknown social situation I feel comfortable in the fact that I can talk the talk and there is almost an unwritten club that all my peers are part of. Brandy and Cigar's plus the world of Business, Wealth & Politics.

I do try and fit in with the average person and I back the working mans politics very much so, I am in essence an upper middle class wealthy snob with too much time and money on my hands and I promote the social ideals of the common man. What would other view me as from my 2,000+ postings here?

lol - I actually believed you for a sec, and then I read you were from Kerry. Boggers can't be snobs - they are the brunt of real snobs everywhere! Ah, bless...

JC 2K3 · 04-01-2007 10:39PM

Oh I don't know, am I a snob? Am I an elitist wánker?

Truth be told, deep down I do feel I am superior to others, but I never show it. I stand firmly on my point of view on things, however.

I consider myself more inteligent than most of the population, and I have my Mensa IQ cert that says I have achieved within the top 1% of the population in terms of IQ with a score of 156, which proves that at least I'm very good at IQ tests.

But it's not like I act on it. When I was younger I became a bit of a recluse because of my snobbish attitude towards other people's intelligence. Now however, I don't dismiss people as easily. I do believe there are a lot of deluded people brainwashed by things such as religion, consumerism/advertising, politics etc. in Ireland right now and this breeds snobbery and needless societal divisions. Might I be so harsh as to say that people obsessed with being something or conforming to some idea, by obsessing over the clothes they wear and the car they drive suiting their image are a waste of potentially creative and intriguing minds? Basically this whole country needs a reality check. When talking to certain people I sometimes want to attack them for their attitudes, but rarely do, unless the topic comes up of course. You can look at my rantings in the Abercrombie topic in F&A for an example of one of those rare times.

I rambled on a bit there, yeah... Am I a snob?

Backtoblack · 04-01-2007 10:49PM

JC 2K3 wrote:

Oh I don't know, am I a snob? Am I an elitist wánker?

Truth be told, deep down I do feel I am superior to others, but I never show it. I stand firmly on my point of view on things, however.

I consider myself more inteligent than most of the population, and I have my Mensa IQ cert that says I have achieved within the top 1% of the population in terms of IQ with a score of 156, which proves that at least I'm very good at IQ tests.

But it's not like I act on it. When I was younger I became a bit of a recluse because of my snobbish attitude towards other people's intelligence. Now however, I don't dismiss people as easily. I do believe there are a lot of deluded people brainwashed by things such as religion, consumerism/advertising, politics etc. in Ireland right now and this breeds snobbery and needless societal divisions. Might I be so harsh as to say that people obsessed with being something or conforming to some idea, by obsessing over the clothes they wear and the car they drive suiting their image are a waste of potentially creative and intriguing minds? Basically this whole country needs a reality check. When talking to certain people I sometimes want to attack them for their attitudes, but rarely do, unless the topic comes up of course. You can look at my rantings in the Abercrombie topic in F&A for an example of one of those rare times.

I rambled on a bit there, yeah... Am I a snob?

I DEMAND TO BE TESTED BY MENSA!!!!
I DEMAND TO BE ABLE TO SPOUT OFF TO BOARDIES AND RANDOM STRANGERS ON THE STREET THAT I AM CLASSED IN THE TOP 1% OF INTELLECTUALS IN THE WORLD.
I INSIST ON KNOWING AND HAVING MY EXTRAORDINARY IQ CERTIFIED AND BEAUTIFULLY PRINTED ON HEAVY EXPENSIVE CREAM FABULOUS QUALITY PAPER WITH GOLD ENGRAVING -THE WORKS!!!!
DO YOU HEAR ME MENSA???? HUH?????

Yes you are a snob of the highest order Jc 2k3!!!

cournioni · 04-01-2007 10:59PM

I look down on everybody. I am great.

bug · 04-01-2007 11:26PM

I am a snob about certain things, unfortunately I inherited it from my mother.
I'm of average academic intellect so its not about any superiority complex, more about social interaction and how people behave with one another.
But I do remind myself to get over it alot.

Pighead · 04-01-2007 11:32PM

Pigheads a complete and utter snob. For me After Hours is the Vintage Wine of boards while The Cuckoos Nest is out of date Own Brand diluted orange.

If a Cuckoos Nest regular pops into an After Hours thread I will almost always visit the bathroom and wash my fingertips. They're filthy scum and shouldn't be allowed out of the nest.

pbsuxok1znja4r · 04-01-2007 11:35PM

I guess I'm a snob. Only to peons who are lower than me, though..

Pighead · 04-01-2007 11:48PM

scouser.tommy wrote:

I guess I'm a snob. Only to peons who are lower than me, though..

No offense scouser.tommy but with a name like yours, you're about as snobby as Pighead is ugly. And considering Pighead won "Best Looking and most Dead on Person of the Year in Co Louth" award 7 years running that leaves you royally fcuked.

Talliesin · 04-01-2007 11:51PM

Snobbery is essentially about being able to pick a few items that are relatively quantifiable (what title one has and what school one went to being the traditional favourites though the modern favourites of how much one has in the bank and ones level of education were always popular choices) and then pinning more on them than they truly warrant in an attempt to make bolster low self-esteem by being able to "prove" that one is a worth-while person. The irony is of course that not only does it prove no such thing, but it also makes people less worthwhile human beings and reduces the value of those claims that they were basing their snobbery on (its easy to bring down a snobby baron or millionaire by putting them in the company of a count or multi-millionaire that isn't snobby).

Even more pathetic of course are wannabe snobs that base their claims on either things they don't understand (Victoria Beckham rejoicing that she's now working in fashion and it's "something she's good at") or which are simply not true (the source of most of the plot of vaguely amusing sit-com "Keeping Up Appearances). The Internet is of course full of these. Many make their claims relatively hard to disprove (claims about their degree of wealth, sexual experience, adventurous lifestyle etc.) and one has to rely on their boring repetition of these "facts" and continual lack of insight to spot them, but many are quite funny (why do people think that if they try to impress by claiming to be a real whizz with computers they won't get caught out - do they think that all the people who really are knowledgeable in computing matters don't use the Internet?).

Terry · 05-01-2007 12:20AM

I look down on some people but i don't look up to others. i suppose that makes me a snob of sorts.
mind you, i live in a council house (and proud of it) and am doing a FÁS course, so i can't really be that much of a snob.
I don't really give a damn either way. i'm popeye. i am what i am.

Sangre · 05-01-2007 12:35AM

Typical lower class moaning about 'snobs'. Waaah.

Giblet · 05-01-2007 12:57AM

rb_ie wrote:

I won't lie. Ask Giblet.

He's just not very bright

Dudess · 05-01-2007 01:01AM

Pighead wrote:

you're about as snobby as Pighead is ugly. And considering Pighead won "Best Looking and most Dead on Person of the Year in Co Louth" award 7 years running that leaves you royally fcuked.

I knew you were hot... *swoons*

Rb · 05-01-2007 01:42AM

Giblet wrote:

He's just not very bright

Now now Giblet, we both know that is a lie.

Chucky the tree · 05-01-2007 01:53AM

i got a 0, what a **** quiz.

Are you a snob?

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