Arise "Sir" Paul Hewson KBE

6ix · 23-12-2006 10:25PM

Hating Bono is one thing, I can understand that. Taking offence from the fact that he's getting an honourary knighthood from another country is absolutely stupid. Would anyone like to enlighten me as to why this is a bone of contention?

Bard · 23-12-2006 10:26PM

Fanny Cradock wrote:

^ A particularly fine example of the pathetic attitudes aired in this thread.

Did you not read the next line in Pighead's post?

The sarcasm was dripping from it, I tell you...

Personally I say fair play to him and would have no bad feelings towards him specifically for accepting it, but if I were ever to be offered the same thing, I'd be very sorely tempted to make a point of (politely) turning it down.

A Dub in Glasgo · 23-12-2006 10:29PM

It certainly was

Barry Aldwell · 23-12-2006 10:30PM

Pigman II wrote:

As an Irish person I have to say I'm disgusted that Bono would accept this award from the British people.

Anyway, must dash. The Premiership has just started on RTE.

Subtle, but excellent.

So what if he accepts an award off the Queen? If you disagree with it so much then why not reject everything British? Never speak English again, eat only Irish produced foods and wear Irish produced clothes, and never have anything to do with the Brits. Alternatively, you can not be xenophobic, leave the past where it belongs, in the past, and move on.

Edit: I think Bono is a bit of a self serving prat too, btw, but there's no reason to go on about people accepting honourary Knighthoods just because he accepted one.

Smellyirishman · 23-12-2006 10:31PM

Bard wrote:

The sarcasm was dripping from it, I tell you...

I don't think it will ever wash out of these jeans.

InFront · 23-12-2006 10:33PM

A Dub in Glasgo wrote:

Why don't you ask if he was a yob immaterial of what he wears or what he sings?

Because a guy wearing a celtic jersey singing 'go on home you british soldiers' is a very distinctive sort of yob that many people will be able to relate to and view in a more negative light so as to further my argument.

Bard · 23-12-2006 10:35PM

InFront wrote:

Because a guy wearing a celtic jersey singing 'go on home you british soldiers' is a very distinctive sort of yob that many people will be able to relate to and view in a more negative light so as to further my argument.

I'd keep labouring that point if I were you. It makes you appear terribly intelligent (and possibly hunky).

I'm just going to assume that when you say "This is a good thing", you mean for Bono, and not for Ireland...

InFront · 23-12-2006 11:10PM

Bard wrote:

I'm just going to assume that when you say "This is a good thing", you mean for Bono, and not for Ireland...

Bono? Perhaps, I hadn't considered it. And no of course it doesn't have any significance to Ireland the country or Irish society. The main reason why this is a good thing, is because a head of state is rewarding this man for his humanitarian work and recognising the valiancy of such efforts. What exactly is the problem with this, is it a 'how dare they honour an irishman, he's ours' mentality?

Big Ears · 23-12-2006 11:16PM

Pigman II wrote:

As an Irish person I have to say I'm disgusted that Bono would accept this award from the British people.

Anyway, must dash. The Premiership has just started on RTE.

, brilliantly done .

Bard · 23-12-2006 11:17PM

InFront wrote:

What exactly is the problem with this, is it a 'how dare they honour an irishman, he's ours' mentality?

If that's directed at me, then you clearly didn't read my first post. I've no problem with Mr. Hewson getting this award from Mrs. Windsor. Fair play and good on the lad, etc. Probably wouldn't be my own "cup of tea", so to speak, but there you go.

If it's just directed at people on this thread in general who don't like the idea, etc., then can't you just allow them to have an opinion that conflicts with yours without trying to convince them that they're so horribly wrong? How about offering your own opinion on the story instead of just putting other peoples opinions down, eh?

InFront · 24-12-2006 12:11AM

Bard wrote:

If it's just directed at people on this thread in general who don't like the idea, etc., then can't you just allow them to have an opinion that conflicts with yours without trying to convince them that they're so horribly wrong? How about offering your own opinion on the story instead of just putting other peoples opinions down, eh?

It is directed at people who have a problem with the decision to award Bono with an hon. knighthood, or his decision to accept it, not you in particular.

And I did offer my opinion on this, part of which was the above statement. This is a public forum. We discuss things and ask questions...

luckat · 24-12-2006 12:12AM

Do the British commonly dub people knight who are from countries they have never occupied, or do they keep it special for ex-occupees? (Or for embarrassingly servile ex-occupees?)

InFront · 24-12-2006 12:16AM

When was Bono ever a resident in an occupied country? As such he's not an ex-ocupee. I'd surprised if anyone on boards.ie were "an ex-occupee" save some of our more foreign friends.

luckat · 24-12-2006 12:46AM

Resident of a formerly occupied country.

Nick_Object · 24-12-2006 12:50AM

so now we call him Sir Arsewipe

robinph · 24-12-2006 12:58AM

luckat wrote:

Do the British commonly dub people knight who are from countries they have never occupied, or do they keep it special for ex-occupees? (Or for embarrassingly servile ex-occupees?)

Yes, and they espcially like to give honours to Irish people becasue they know that it infuriates certain parts of the Irish population so much to see one of their own accepting such awards from the evil British.

Although you don't actually get to call yourself a knight on getting the award unless you hold a Commonweath passport of course, and in most countries the award by a forigen state has to actually be allowed by their own president first anyway.

zuutroy · 24-12-2006 01:04AM

Remove tea-cup from press...insert storm.

Seriously...if this is all you have to worry about, you've got it pretty easy. Whoever said the thing about the premiership was spot on.
Country recognises mans good work. Mans says thanks...the end.

cozmik · 24-12-2006 01:30AM

^yip, This was bound to happen sooner or later and you know what I couldn't care less in fact I wouldn't give a damn if they made him King of England!

better things to worry about for sure...

cheers

cozmik

Puck · 24-12-2006 06:25AM

Was never really big on them but this thread has inspired me to go buy some U2. I'm that non-conformist!

Fair play to him. I hope he has a great day out from it.

admiralofthefleet · 24-12-2006 06:35AM

its against our constitution for irish citizens to hold titles of nobility.

luckat · 24-12-2006 08:08AM

People used to be too proudly Irish to accept a British title, quite apart from admiralgar's point. (In fact, the Cabinet can discuss a request by an Irish citizen to hold a foreign title; was this done?)

The English like to give titles to Irish notables as a way of claiming them as *really* British, and only pretending about that oul' independence lark.

But to see someone forever lecturing the world about hunger delighted to be sirred by the granddaughter of the Famine Queen...well... one's gobsmacked.

Wertz · 24-12-2006 10:34AM

Ah the British establishment claiming yet another covetable Irishman for their own.

Nothing new here then...

theCzar · 24-12-2006 10:47AM

Though I agree with the many people who've said live and let live, this irks my republican nature nonetheless. I would have liked for him to have stood her up and pretended to be rock n roll for a day.

Remember this is the same fella who's mates with Berlusconi, so lets not be surprised at his willingness to rub shoulders with the blue bloods of "dem across de water"

arybvtcw0eolkf · 24-12-2006 11:20AM

robinph wrote:

He's already accepted the equvalent honour from the French though so they must have already taken his Irish passport off him for that offence.

French, Chilian, a citizen of Mar's.. it doesn't mean the same as the BRITISH. I don't hate British people, but dammit I hate British history in Ireland and for that their different.

Ok, I might include the Vikings, but they gave us Dublin, so I won't..

Hagar · 24-12-2006 11:48AM

Mairt wrote:

Ok, I might include the Vikings, but they gave us Dublin, so I won't..

Just be careful there....;)

mike65 · 24-12-2006 12:36PM

Wertz wrote:

Ah the British establishment claiming yet another covetable Irishman for their own.

Nothing new here then...

Should'nt there be a

after that?

Mike.

luckat · 24-12-2006 12:37PM

Contemporary reportage of the Battle of Clontarf shows that some of the Vikings had already settled in well by that time:

http://omacl.org/Njal/11part.html

(Search for 'Brodir' (Bruadar, in the funny Scandi spelling) to cut to the chase; the beginning is a bit featury.)

jahalpin · 24-12-2006 12:43PM

I assume that Bono is getting this award for his "humanitarian efforts" rather than as his job as an entertainer.

For all the publicity he generates for himself from his work in the third world etc., it would probably help them more in the long run if he paid his taxes in Ireland, which would help us to reach the planned 0.7% of GDP in foreign aid.

He's probably also getting it for being nice to his pal Bush, who he never criticizes, while he criticizes every other country in the world for their alleged behavior.

Overall, Bono is only into the whole humanitarian thing for the money and publicity that it generates for himself and U2, which by the way I would have no problem with, if only he was open and admitted as much.

He does not deserve such an honour and it is a disgrace that the Queen is wasting a knighthood on such a person

PS: The same goes for "Sir" Bob Geldof

vesp · 24-12-2006 12:50PM

InFront wrote:

Wow, a foreign head of state compliments the great work of one of our fellow countrymen by making him an honorary knight, and all we can do is be bitter and complain about it?

I suppose it would be better if he was some yob in a Celtic jersey down the pub singing 'go on home you british soldiers'

Lets just get over ourselves and such petty ideology. This is a good thing.

Well said. There are too many Irish who are bigoted and racist towards the British. I say well done to all the lads in U2 for what they have done over the years.

Mossy Monk · 24-12-2006 01:06PM

vesp wrote:

I say well done to all the lads in U2 for what they have done over the years.

but it is Bono, not U2 getting the award

he will be Sir Up His Own Hole now. my tolerance of him was never too high

Arise "Sir" Paul Hewson KBE

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