15 Y.O. Girl Hit With Baseball Bat Dies

Xavi6 · 25-11-2006 08:40PM

Just heard today that the second man involved in the incident was recently sacked from a top retail store in the area for constantly showing up drunk. The info is 100% reliable as he is a former colleague of my mother.

Clover · 25-11-2006 08:47PM

very sad to hear that she has passed away , i heard of what happened to her on the news during the week and was hoping that she would pull through .

thoughts and prayers are with her family and friends .

BlueSpiral · 25-11-2006 10:46PM

pepper wrote:

what kind of immature prick carries a baseball bat around

The guy was in his 40's.

What I heard was he got thrown out of the local pub earlier in the evening.

Duff · 26-11-2006 12:34PM

Thats horrific, couple of boys in my college knew her and yer man that did it!
My sympathies to her family.

Jonny Arson · 26-11-2006 02:29PM

Awfully sad news

will be even worse when that **** who killed her probably will get just a few years in prison like all murderers in this country seem to get these days

Rb · 26-11-2006 02:35PM

Zane from MTV2 wrote:

will be even worse when that **** who killed her probably will get just a few years in prison like all murderers in this country seem to get these days

It wasn't murder though...

thehomeofDob · 26-11-2006 06:41PM

Does anyone know exactly what happened? My younger brother knew her an from what he's been told the girl and a few mates were out (he heard it was a green), two guys got out of a car and tried draggin her back into the car. One of her friends, a guy, pulled her back, and put himself in between the guys and her. One of the guys grabbed a baseball bat outta the car, came back an took a swing at her friend, he ducked, and she got cracked in the head.

Now whether this is complete waffle, or slight exaguration I don't know, but either way he's pretty shaken up, an it's an awful thing to happen.

Mossy Monk · 26-11-2006 06:50PM

rb_ie wrote:

It wasn't murder though...

indeed

manslaughter, not murder. a very sad and tragic incident

jesus_thats_gre · 26-11-2006 09:45PM

Its a shame that she died alright but what was a young teenage girl doing so close to the "fight".

MrJoeSoap · 26-11-2006 10:38PM

jesus_thats_gre wrote:

Its a shame that she died alright but what was a young teenage girl doing so close to the "fight".

Don't even try to bring this back on the girl...

27-11-2006 02:09AM

Its a shame that she died alright but what was a young teenage girl doing so close to the "fight".

Eh have you ever heard the phrase 'in the wrong place at the wrong time'? Unless you're extremely naive surely you know it's very easy to get caught up in a fight while you're minding your own business. Sure I nearly got pushed under a bus the other day cos some idiot shoved his mate who fell into me when I was on the edge of the pavement. My friend got her nose broken a few weeks ago in a club when some drunk guy went to punch someone and missed. There are irresponsible idiots all over the place, you certainly don't need to go looking for trouble if that's what you're implying this girl was doing.

HelterSkelter · 27-11-2006 10:50AM

Cartoon_Head wrote:

I'm not blaming baseball - I'm blaming the people who sell baseball bats in this country for a quick and easy profit when it's not a sport that even shows up as a blip on the radar in terms of participation. It's pretty obvious what most baseball bats are bought and sold for.

Why don't you blame the person who swung the baseball bat instead of the person who sold it? Typical of people in this country that we want to blame anybody but the person who comitted the crime. What is your next suggestion, ban the sale of computers in case someone uses one to hack into NASA????

dancingpixie · 27-11-2006 08:00PM

Yeah and one of the saddest things about it is that one of the men involved has a daughter the same age as the girl who died. Tbh i feel sorry for everyone involved.

TempestSabre · 27-11-2006 08:33PM

dancingpixie wrote:

Yeah and one of the saddest things about it is that one of the men involved has a daughter the same age as the girl who died. Tbh i feel sorry for everyone involved.

Why does that make it sadder? 15yr old or 30yr old what difference does it make? Both are someone child. Someone who pulls out a bat is intending to do serious damage, or kill.

Jonny Arson · 27-11-2006 08:56PM

rb_ie wrote:

It wasn't murder though...

So you're saying some madman going around swinging a BASEBALL BAT (yes, one those massive and very heavy things that can do alot of damage!) at someone, irrespective of whether they smashed the intended target, wasn't planning on killing someone? Sorry, screw legal terms like manslaughter, that is murder, no accident. The **** knew what he was doing and I hope he rots in hell.

Mossy Monk · 27-11-2006 09:06PM

Zane from MTV2 wrote:

Sorry, screw legal terms like manslaughter, that is murder, no accident. The **** knew what he was doing and I hope he rots in hell.

sorry no. it's not murder unless he intended to kill the girl. did he even mean to hit her in the first place? according to news reports, no. it is manslaughter

Jonny Arson · 27-11-2006 09:11PM

Mossy Monk wrote:

sorry no. it's not murder unless he intended to kill the girl. did he even mean to hit her in the first place? according to news reports, no. it is manslaughter

He was going out to kill someone, if you swing a baseball bat at someone's head you know you're going to cause serious injury and likley death to someone. That was his intent, he got so lucky that he didn't hit his intended target because he'll get 2 years instead of 5 years, thanks to the loophole that is manslaughter in cases like this.

jesus_thats_gre · 27-11-2006 09:21PM

MrJoeSoap wrote:

Don't even try to bring this back on the girl...

Am not blaming the girl. What exactly happened though. The actual details of what occurred seem to be pretty scarce. Was she far away from home? What time of night was it? How big was the group she was in. Did the 2 men really try to abduct her? Did the 2 men start the fight. Were the 2 men taunted into challenging a group of kids.

It is an abolsutely tragic incident but the last thing I am going to assume is that she, or the group she was in, are completely innocent in all of this. Not that anything they could have done could warrant a young girl dying.

Killaqueen!!! · 27-11-2006 09:29PM

Zane from MTV2 wrote:

He was going out to kill someone, if you swing a baseball bat at someone's head you know you're going to cause serious injury and likley death to someone. That was his intent, he got so lucky that he didn't hit his intended target because he'll get 2 years instead of 5 years, thanks to the loophole that is manslaughter in cases like this.

He wasn't going out to kill someone he was protecting the girl. You obviously don't know the story. Don't believe everything you read on the internet.

MrJoeSoap · 27-11-2006 09:40PM

Killaqueen!!! wrote:

He wasn't going out to kill someone he was protecting the girl. You obviously don't know the story. Don't believe everything you read on the internet.

Well please do tell us what you know because I certainly haven't heard anything about him trying to protect the girl.

Xavi6 · 27-11-2006 09:41PM

Killaqueen!!! wrote:

He wasn't going out to kill someone he was protecting the girl. You obviously don't know the story. Don't believe everything you read on the internet.

Protecting the girl? Please explain.

Mr. Presentable · 21-12-2006 07:56PM

Today there took place the funeral of one of the men questioned in connection with this case, following his suicide.

I have no source for this, except a friend works with the girls mother, who told me. Perhaps someone can verify?

Sam Vimes · 21-12-2006 08:05PM

nipplenuts wrote:

Today there took place the funeral of one of the men questioned in connection with this case, following his suicide.

I have no source for this, except a friend works with the girls mother, who told me. Perhaps someone can verify?

heard this myself. don't know if its true though

MrJoeSoap · 21-12-2006 08:22PM

Yeah its true, its in the Blanch Gazette this week.

LundiMardi · 22-12-2006 12:46AM

was it the guy who killed her? How did he commit suicide?

Xavi6 · 22-12-2006 01:46AM

MrJoeSoap wrote:

Yeah its true, its in the Blanch Gazette this week.

Ah well if it's in the Blanch Gazette then it's 100% true. Top quality paper that

Unfortunately the guy died the other day but no one has released whether it is sucicide or not (chances are it was). Again he only lives around the corner from me and as far as I know he has a 15 year old daughter as well. The story just gets more tragic.

MrJoeSoap · 22-12-2006 01:49AM

Front page of todays Herald as well.

Sully · 22-12-2006 01:57AM

I guess if it was sucide, he must feel responsible for the whole thing. Another tragidy if he left family behind, espically at christmas

~Rebel~ · 22-12-2006 02:07AM

i dont know the in's and out's of the story, but suicide of someone with people depending on them (15yr old girl) always makes me sick. Most selfish act possible, have a friend who's father commit suicide, their lives have been so hard since, not to mention the trauma. My friend has had to leave school and work solidly since he was 14.

~nop~ · 22-12-2006 02:40AM

He died of an OD.

I can't believe this. 3 children. This is only going to add to the suffering of the girls family, let alone his dependants, friends, relations. Not only one life but two, this story has been absolutely horrific from the start and my thoughts go out to everyone in any way involved.

15 Y.O. Girl Hit With Baseball Bat Dies

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