im not racist- BUT!!!!!!!!

pepper · 11-10-2006 10:45AM

Robbo wrote:

And does this fine bastion of quality journalism have an online version to which we can refer? Have those southern Tipperary Woodward and Bernsteins found damning evidence that the CSO is a sham and merely a front for a wider immigrant conspiracy?

no its a free paper so no online 1

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 11-10-2006 10:46AM

Ok, a few things.

1) Believeing that the govt. should tightne up immigration procedure does NOT make you racist. You MIGHT be labeled as a hypocriete considering Ireland's past and the emigrants that left these shores for other lands.

2) Thinking that immigrants are only here for social beneifts will make you a racist. I work in an office where we have two poles and a lithuanian working in the warehouse, and apparently they're like horses when it comes to getting work done.

3) Fish supper in the paper - excellent line!

Miguel_Sanchez · 11-10-2006 10:46AM

I'd say the OP is a member of this group:

http://www.geocities.com/nakedgalway/12-anti.htm

tbh · 11-10-2006 10:47AM

Mrs_Doyle wrote:

I do feel slightly frustrated when I can't find an English or Irish speaking person in my local SPAR, when the guy on directory enquiries can't give me the information I need, because he is NOT fluent in our countries First language, and when my sister can't get a job in the local restaurant, despite having experience, and is told it is because she is demanding too much money (€9.50 per hour), when there are plenty of foreigners who will work for less!

I take it then that by your rationale, if there were no foreigners in the country, all those problems would disappear because all those jobs would be filled by Irish people?

and when my sister can't get a job in the local restaurant, despite having experience, and is told it is because she is demanding too much money (€9.50 per hour), when there are plenty of foreigners who will work for less!

more likely what would happen is that those spars and directory enquiries would close down because no-one wants to work there. There's plenty of work for everyone in this country. If there are foreigners who will work for less, fair play to them, if they can survive on it. would it be more acceptable if it were IRISH people willing to work for less?

peppar wrote:

I am just pissed off that i cant walk down the street without seeing a million foreigners!

why does it bother you? Are they in your way? are they dropping litter? Or are you just worried that they are all talking about you in their secret language :rolleyes:

and i saw 3 FOREIGN GUYS COME OUT OF THERE! If the irish government is handing out the dole to anyone who walks in to the country they are bigger spastics than i thought!

are you on the dole? if not, what difference does it make to you? There is an election coming up, are you going to stand, so you can change the system? or are you just going to bitch about it for the rest of your life.

quad_red · 11-10-2006 10:47AM

Mrs_Doyle wrote:

...and when my sister can't get a job in the local restaurant, despite having experience, and is told it is because she is demanding too much money (€9.50 per hour), when there are plenty of foreigners who will work for less!

And whose fault it that?

It's the greedy rich IRISH twats, that's whose fault it is.

The rich get richer and are finding even more vulnerable people to exploit.

And moving abroad to another country, undercutting the existing wage structures is something we Irish are specialists at.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 11-10-2006 10:48AM

Doctor J wrote:

I'll bet the foreigners you speak ill of make a better fist at writing English though.

What the hell is all this gibberish? Are you a rap artist from South Central Los Angeles?

I can't stand coming onto a good honest to jaysus Irish website and getting bombarded with this kind of verbal slop from people who can't even type in English! What the hell were the 800 years of oppression for if we're going to soil the English language with lazy efforts behind the keyboard. Cromwell would be rolling in his grave! At least the foreigners have an excuse for bad English, someone who has lived here and been processed by the education system should at least be able to make their point clearly in the primary language of the country!

Seconded.

Gordon · 11-10-2006 10:48AM

pepper wrote:

They were speaking another language-and i know a lot of black- coloured- even chinese people who were born and still live here-What I am annoyed about is i couldnt find an irish person on the street if i tried cos theres so many foreigners!

If that makes me racist thats fine!

Can you change the topic of the thread to reflect your new found racism please?

pepper · 11-10-2006 10:48AM

Doctor J wrote:

I'll bet the foreigners you speak ill of make a better fist at writing English though.

What the hell is all this gibberish? Are you a rap artist from South Central Los Angeles?

I can't stand coming onto a good honest to jaysus Irish website and getting bombarded with this kind of verbal slop from people who can't even type in English! What the hell were the 800 years of oppression for if we're going to soil the English language with lazy efforts behind the keyboard. Cromwell would be rolling in his grave! At least the foreigners have an excuse for bad English, someone who has lived here and been processed by the education system should at least be able to make their point clearly in the primary language of the country!

Im sure its not how they write that anyone cares about- u cant call it an irish website if this country is bearly irish anymore-u talk about 800 years of oppression ? So we fought for 800 years to get our country back from Britian so that it could be invaded AGAIN did we?

Some free Ireland!

mickoneill30 · 11-10-2006 10:48AM

By saying "I'm not racist, but" you're saying I'm not racist but I'm about to say something racist. In which case you can just leave out the "I'm not racist, but" at the start of your sentence. It's just a way of softening up a statment.

For your statement in post one you say

"I am just pissed off that i cant walk down the street without seeing a million foreigners! "

I don't think that's racist. Daft, yes, but not racist, so there would be no need to put the "I'm not racist, but" to defend yourself before the sentence. It's just your opinion. One that probably means you must hate going to any foreign country.

Doing a quick Google of the statement brings up some interesting links.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=i'm+not+racist,+but+.+.+.

http://mousewords.blogspot.com/2004/08/winner-of-im-not-racist-but-contest.html

http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/cameron_duodu/2006/04/cameron_duodu_noone_is_racist.html

Now I'm not thick but I can't think of anything else to type.

Miguel_Sanchez · 11-10-2006 10:49AM

pepper wrote:

i know a lot of black- coloured- even chinese people who were born and still live here-What I am annoyed about is i couldnt find an irish person on the street if i tried cos theres so many foreigners!

So you're fine with the black and chinese people who are born here? It's just the first generation you have a problem with? That makes great sense.

How'd you think the Chinese-Irish got here in the first place? Their parents or their grandparents had to come here at some point.

Hydroquinone · 11-10-2006 10:50AM

Dickmcsavage wrote:

I mean I was in Canada all summer working myself but I just don't like when this sort of immigration begins to affect our national identity.

And that doesn't strike you as remotely hypocritical? What does a Canadian look like? What's their national identity? Could it possibly be made up of immigrants and foreigners?

As for pepper, you really are racist. No buts about it.
But if that's what floats your boat, get on with it.
21, eh? I graduated from university with a degree in chemistry few years after you were born. Everyone I knew had to leave the country because there were no jobs here, you can't remember those days, but it seems to me that you need a little education in the way economics work.
People who have no jobs leave the their own country to go to where the jobs are. That's it.
If you don't understand that, then you're snookered

Robbo · 11-10-2006 10:51AM

pepper wrote:

no its a free paper so no online 1

Extraordinary! Even with limited resources, a provincial freesheet has the moxy to bring down the whole system. This truly is a victory for this democratisation of the media lark and by extension, bloggers and assorted other internet jerks.

The Hill Billy · 11-10-2006 10:52AM

Gordon wrote:

Can you change the topic of the thread to reflect your new found racism please?

Silly Gordon - They'd incur the wrath of a Mod then.

Charter wrote:

Racism
- Topics/posts containing such will be edited/deleted accordingly.

Doctor J · 11-10-2006 10:52AM

pepper wrote:

Im sure its not how they write that anyone cares about- u cant call it an irish website if this country is bearly irish anymore-u talk about 800 years of oppression ? So we fought for 800 years to get our country back from Britian so that it could be invaded AGAIN did we?

Some free Ireland!

If we got our country back why do you try to converse like an American? Surely if foreign things are bad mmmmkay and shouldn't be in our country it should include American slang? If you're going to make a point at least make an effort to do it in the language of this country's people, don't be acting like them nasty foreigners, next thing you'll be wearing baggy pants and putting a baseball cap on sideways :eek:

pepper · 11-10-2006 10:53AM

Jeff_Lebowski wrote:

So you're fine with the black and chinese people who are born here? It's just the first generation you have a problem with? That makes great sense.

How'd you think the Chinese-Irish got here in the first place? Their parents or their grandparents had to come here at some point.

they came here when the place wasnt crawling with foreingers- where it was possible to walk into an interview room and feel confident rather than worrying cos of the polish guy whos being interviewed next!!!

Miguel_Sanchez · 11-10-2006 10:53AM

pepper wrote:

Im sure its not how they write that anyone cares about- u cant call it an irish website if this country is bearly irish anymore-u talk about 800 years of oppression ? So we fought for 800 years to get our country back from Britian so that it could be invaded AGAIN did we?

The country is barely Irish anymore? Since when? Last time I checked we still drink too much, grumble about the weather, are crap at soccer and love the craic. Yup - still Irish as Irish can be.

I like the way you think immigration equals invasion. That's cute. You're a little cute racist. C'mere and I'll give you a patronising pat on the head. Ya daft racist.

pepper · 11-10-2006 10:54AM

Robbo wrote:

Extraordinary! Even with limited resources, a provincial freesheet has the moxy to bring down the whole system. This truly is a victory for this democratisation of the media lark and by extension, bloggers and assorted other internet jerks.

ya right i stopped reading after the first line thats how bored i got!!!

pepper · 11-10-2006 10:56AM

Doctor J wrote:

If we got our country back why do you try to converse like an American? Surely if foreign things are bad mmmmkay and shouldn't be in our country it should include American slang? If you're going to make a point at least make an effort to do it in the language of this country's people, don't be acting like them nasty foreigners, next thing you'll be wearing baggy pants and putting a baseball cap on sideways :eek:

that made NO sense whatsoever what ya dragging the americans into this for?You have got nothing to back up any of what your saying so your just talking crap now!

pepper · 11-10-2006 10:57AM

Jeff_Lebowski wrote:

The country is barely Irish anymore? Since when? Last time I checked we still drink too much, grumble about the weather, are crap at soccer and love the craic. Yup - still Irish as Irish can be.

I like the way you think immigration equals invasion. That's cute. You're a little cute racist. C'mere and I'll give you a patronising pat on the head. Ya daft racist.

seriously ya actually think your funny? god bless!

Miguel_Sanchez · 11-10-2006 10:57AM

pepper wrote:

they came here when the place wasnt crawling with foreingers- where it was possible to walk into an interview room and feel confident rather than worrying cos of the polish guy whos being interviewed next!!!

Aha! So we've figured it out - you're just insecure about yourself because you think you're underqualified and that the renowned work ethic of the Polish people will mean you're going to have to work harder yourself. That's your problem bub - don't be blaming the Poles if you're just plain lazy.

Mrs_Doyle · 11-10-2006 10:57AM

tbh wrote:

I take it then that by your rationale, if there were no foreigners in the country, all those problems would disappear because all those jobs would be filled by Irish people?

I would ask that you to re-read the above - if there were no foreigners in this country, all jobs would be filled by Irish people????

Yes, I imagine that to be correct.

Miguel_Sanchez · 11-10-2006 10:58AM

pepper wrote:

seriously ya actually think your funny? god bless!

Yup. Not as funny as you though. You've got pretty much my whole office in stitches at this point.

Slydice · 11-10-2006 10:58AM

pepper wrote:

no its a free paper so no online 1

It looks pretty much online to me:
http://www.tipperarytoday.co.uk/

.co.uk eh? You must be pretty proud of your "REALLY" Irish newspaper:rolleyes:

pepper · 11-10-2006 11:00AM

Jeff_Lebowski wrote:

Aha! So we've figured it out - you're just insecure about yourself because you think you're underqualified and that the renowned work ethic of the Polish people will mean you're going to have to work harder yourself. That's your problem bub - don't be blaming the Poles if you're just plain lazy.

im in a ****ing wheelchair you half wit!!!!Do u know how hard it is to find a job when your crippled NO U ****ING DONT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And im done with this bull****- Let me guess your gonna say it was a polish person who was in the car that crashed into mine that night?

its nothing to do with the poles-I have had many friends not get a job they were qualified for cos it was given to a foreigner who could bearly speak english

Miguel_Sanchez · 11-10-2006 11:00AM

Mrs_Doyle wrote:

I would ask that you to re-read the above - if there were no foreigners in this country, all jobs would be filled by Irish people????

Yes, I imagine that to be correct.

Well technically all the jobs that would be filled in that situation would be filled by Irish people. However in the current economic climate we need immigrants to fill jobs because they're just aren't enough Irish people to sustain growth of this level.

So if all foreign people went home tomorrow then the Irish economy would collapse and we'd be back to the 80s with mass unemployment and the government advising the youth to leave the country to find jobs.

pepper · 11-10-2006 11:01AM

Slydice wrote:

It looks pretty much online to me:
http://www.tipperarytoday.co.uk/

.co.uk eh? You must be pretty proud of your "REALLY" Irish newspaper:rolleyes:

dats not the newspaper its SOUTH TIPP TODAY !!!! NOT TIPPERARY TODAY- NOTE THE "SOUTH" PART

Doctor J · 11-10-2006 11:01AM

pepper wrote:

that made NO sense whatsoever what ya dragging the americans into this for?You have got nothing to back up any of what your saying so your just talking crap now!

You type like an American would speak. How does that make you Irish? Define Irishness to me. How does your clear Americanism make you more Irish than some Chinese dude busting his ass for **** pay in a Spar if you both speak with foreign accents? Do you base nationality on the colour of someone's skin?

jacopo_belbo · 11-10-2006 11:01AM

If all the foreigners disappeared, there would be no one to do the ****e jobs Irish people are too fancy to do these days.

Man, the xenophobia in this country makes me want to leave again.

And as an aside, it's all the greedy "Irish" businessmen that are more than happy to pay a foreigner a lot less than they would an Irish person. Now who's fault is it that we are in this situation?

Lump · 11-10-2006 11:02AM

pepper wrote:

Im sure its not how they write that anyone cares about- u cant call it an irish website if this country is bearly irish anymore-u talk about 800 years of oppression ? So we fought for 800 years to get our country back from Britian so that it could be invaded AGAIN did we?

Some free Ireland!

What an idiot.

DonkeyStyle \o/ · 11-10-2006 11:02AM

Jeff_Lebowski wrote:

Ya daft racist.

Jeff_Lebowski wrote:

Aha!

Alan Partridge overload :eek:

im not racist- BUT!!!!!!!!

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