im not racist- BUT!!!!!!!!

pepper

i was in a hair salon the other day and there was a talk on the radio about racism(ie- so many foreign people in ireland that half the country is"apparantly" now racist)

What annoyed me the most is the broadcaster said he hates when irish people say "im not rasist...BUT"

Well how else we gonna say it-A lot of us believe the goverment has been too kind and letting everyone here-Ireland isint for the irish anymore- They have polish pubs- polish food stores- even polish sections of the supermarkets over here! Half the people we work with arent irish now and the goverment are complaining about the rise of unemployment- IF YOU STOPPED LETTING HALF THE WORLDS POPULATION INTO THE COUNTRY WHO WORK FOR MUCH LESS THAN WE DO THERE WOULDNT BE A RISE IN UNEMPLOYMENT!!!

And NO i am not racist-I have a lot of friends from diff races-I am just pissed off that i cant walk down the street without seeing a million foreigners!

And another thing-I went to meet a friend for lunch- and i pass the social welfare office on my way- and i saw 3 FOREIGN GUYS COME OUT OF THERE! If the irish government is handing out the dole to anyone who walks in to the country they are bigger spastics than i thought!

And i dont CARE if u all think im racist cuz im not the only 1 SICK of this ****n invasion!!!

Robbo

pepper wrote:

Half the people we work with arent irish now and the goverment are complaining about the rise of unemployment- IF YOU STOPPED LETTING HALF THE WORLDS POPULATION INTO THE COUNTRY WHO WORK FOR MUCH LESS THAN WE DO THERE WOULDNT BE A RISE IN UNEMPLOYMENT!!!

I think you'll find that the government aren't complaining about rising unemployement and that the live register is at an 18 month low.

Run along now.

Gordon

pepper wrote:

And NO i am not racist-I have a lot of friends from diff races-I am just pissed off that i cant walk down the street without seeing a million foreigners!

lol

And another thing-I went to meet a friend for lunch- and i pass the social welfare office on my way- and i saw 3 FOREIGN GUYS COME OUT OF THERE!

OMFG! lollerpants!

The Hill Billy

Racist troll.

Putting "but" in the title doesn't change a thing.

I bet you're ginger too.

humanji

Hill Billy wrote:

I bet you're ginger too.

Racist! One day we gingers will unite and smash our oppressors!

Robbo

humanji wrote:

Racist! One day we gingers will unite and smash our oppressors!

Until the weather gets sunny again...

pepper

Robbo wrote:

I think you'll find that the government aren't complaining about rising unemployement and that the live register is at an 18 month low.

Run along now.

really? so WHY was it in our local paper so?

Gordon

pepper wrote:

really? so WHY was it in our local paper so?

I saw a fish supper in a local paper once - doesn't mean I'm going to ask for its opinion on local politics.

pepper

Hill Billy wrote:

Racist troll.

Putting "but" in the title doesn't change a thing.

I bet you're ginger too.

wow that comeback made u look like such a big man!!!! So everyone whos sick of seeing ireland invaded by foreginers is a racist eh?If so that would more than likley include u and everyone u know!!!

The Hill Billy

humanji wrote:

we gingers will unite

If it was the strawberry blondes uniting - then I'd be worried.

Mrs_Doyle

I bet there are a fair few boardsie's who have grumbled about something pretty similar to what the OP has just described - they just wont admit it here.

I am not a racist - http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racist

A racist is someone that hates a type of people because of their race. Sometimes they will try to kill the group of people. That is called genocide.

Famous racists
*Adolf Hitler
*George Wallace wanted to keep races separated while governor of Alabama; he stood in front of a school house door at the University of Alabama to stop desegregation of the school with the acceptance of two black students, Vivian Malone and James Hood.
*The Ku Klux Klan is a group of people that hate people that aren't white and/or Protestant.
*William Shockley, father of the transistor, believed African Americans were less intelligent than Caucasians. He said that people with IQs below 100 could be paid for surgery to never have a baby.
*Louis Farrakhan is the leader of the largely black Nation of Islam. Farrakhan has referred to Jews, Palestinian Arabs, and Asians as "bloodsuckers" and stated that "Murder and lying comes easy for white people." He has also been accused of calling Judaism a "gutter religion".

http://dictionary.laborlawtalk.com/Racism

Racism refers to the belief that race is the primary determinant of human capacities, that a certain race is inherently superior or inferior to others, and/or that individuals should be treated differently based on their ascribed race. Sometimes it refers to beliefs, practices, and institutions that negatively discriminate against people based on their perceived or ascribed race. There is a growing, but controversial, tendency to state that racism is a system of oppression that combines racist beliefs, whether explicit, tacit or unconscious, with the power to have a negative effect on those discriminated against at a societal level.

BUT

I do feel slightly frustrated when I can't find an English or Irish speaking person in my local SPAR, when the guy on directory enquiries can't give me the information I need, because he is NOT fluent in our countries First language, and when my sister can't get a job in the local restaurant, despite having experience, and is told it is because she is demanding too much money (€9.50 per hour), when there are plenty of foreigners who will work for less!

pepper

Gordon wrote:

I saw a fish supper in a local paper once - doesn't mean I'm going to ask for its opinion on local politics.

oh seriously ur so funny!Act your age- it was in my local paper-Simple as that!!!Ur ok with all the foreigners obviously- uv made ur point!

pepper

Mrs_Doyle wrote:

I bet there are a fair few boardsie's who have grumbled about something pretty similar to what the OP has just described - they just wont admit it here.

I am not a racist - http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racist



http://dictionary.laborlawtalk.com/Racism







BUT

I do feel slightly frustrated when I can't find an English or Irish speaking person in my local SPAR, when the guy on directory enquiries can't give me the information I need, because he is NOT fluent in our countries First language, and when my sister can't get a job in the local restaurant, despite having experience, and is told it is because she is demanding too much money (€9.50 per hour), when there are plenty of foreigners who will work for less!

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Hill Billy

pepper wrote:

really? so WHY was it in our local paper so?

I suppose that you believe the Horoscopes too?

And those ads that have direct lines to horny housewives just begging for a good seeing to (in YOUR AREA NOW!)

Gordon

pepper wrote:

oh seriously ur so funny!Act your age- it was in my local paper-Simple as that!!!Ur ok with all the foreigners obviously- uv made ur point!

wow that comeback made u look like such a big man!!!!

Robbo

pepper wrote:

really? so WHY was it in our local paper so?

Live Register figures at 18 month low (RTE).

Pray tell, for the sake of this charade, what newspaper that is and would you care to cite it?

pepper

Gordon wrote:

wow that comeback made u look like such a big man!!!!

IM NOT A MAN- DONT INSULT ME!

pepper

Robbo wrote:

Live Register figures at 18 month low (RTE).

Pray tell, for the sake of this charade, what newspaper that is and would you care to cite it?

ITS OUR local 1 SOUTH TIPP TODAY

The Hill Billy

First they get the vote & now they've got opinions.

They'll be driving cars next.

Dickmcsavage

I think one place that everyone can notice the massive amount of immigrants is O'Connell street. This is meant to be our main street in Ireland yet when I walk down it, its more of a case of spotting the paddy. I dont mind people coming over for work. I mean I was in Canada all summer working myself but I just don't like when this sort of immigration begins to affect our national identity.

Mr Magnolia

pepper wrote:

oh seriously ur so funny!Act your age- it was in my local paper-Simple as that!!!Ur ok with all the foreigners obviously- uv made ur point!

My guess is you're 14, am I right, am I?

pepper

Sparks400 wrote:

My guess is you're 14, am I right, am I?

NO 21- BUT THANKS U MADE MY DAY :-)

Ph3n0m

I think Mrs Doyle has hit it on the head

Miguel_Sanchez

pepper wrote:

Half the people we work with arent irish now and the goverment are complaining about the rise of unemployment

This depends where you work. If half of all the workforce wasn't Irish then that would mean that half the population of the country were immigrants. Now I'm pretty sure that's not true.

And NO i am not racist-I have a lot of friends from diff races-I am just pissed off that i cant walk down the street without seeing a million foreigners!

Well maybe you're not racist but you're prone to a bit of exaggeration. Also - why does seeing people of other races piss you off? Sounds a bit intolerant to me.

And another thing-I went to meet a friend for lunch- and i pass the social welfare office on my way- and i saw 3 FOREIGN GUYS COME OUT OF THERE! If the irish government is handing out the dole to anyone who walks in to the country they are bigger spastics than i thought!

Oh No! Three foreign guys! Three foreign guys leaving the social welfare office!!!
First off - are you saying they are foreign because they have a different skin colour to you or were they speaking another language? I know plenty of black Irish people who would be insulted if you called them foreign because of their skin colour.
Also - a person has to be resident in this country for 2 years before they can collect social welfare so it's untrue to say the government is handing out dole to anyone who walks in.

And i dont CARE if u all think im racist cuz im not the only 1 SICK of this ****n invasion!!!

I'm glad you don't care if we think you're racist, cause I do think you are.

Gordon

pepper wrote:

IM NOT A MAN- DONT INSULT ME!

Insult? So you're sexist now too eh?

You sure are limiting your scope of friends by hating men and people from anywhere but Ireland..

Robbo

pepper wrote:

ITS OUR local 1 SOUTH TIPP TODAY

And does this fine bastion of quality journalism have an online version to which we can refer? Have those southern Tipperary Woodward and Bernsteins found damning evidence that the CSO is a sham and merely a front for a wider immigrant conspiracy?

Mossy Monk

Gordon wrote:

OMFG! lollerpants!

DonkeyStyle \o/

I'm not a racist, but you're all a pack of stupid spud-chuckers.
Go back to Ireland the lot of yee and leave my internet alone.

Miguel_Sanchez

Dickmcsavage wrote:

I think one place that everyone can notice the massive amount of immigrants is O'Connell street. This is meant to be our main street in Ireland yet when I walk down it, its more of a case of spotting the paddy. I dont mind people coming over for work. I mean I was in Canada all summer working myself but I just don't like when this sort of immigration begins to affect our national identity.

So it's the ethnicity that bothers you? If they were all white Scots and Canadians coming over you'd be fine with it because everyone would look the same walking down O'Connell St. Is that what you're saying?

pepper

Jeff_Lebowski wrote:

This depends where you work. If half of all the workforce wasn't Irish then that would mean that half the population of the country were immigrants. Now I'm pretty sure that's not true.



Well maybe you're not racist but you're prone to a bit of exaggeration. Also - why does seeing people of other races piss you off? Sounds a bit intolerant to me.



Oh No! Three foreign guys! Three foreign guys leaving the social welfare office!!!
First off - are you saying they are foreign because they have a different skin colour to you or were they speaking another language? I know plenty of black Irish people who would be insulted if you called them foreign because of their skin colour.
Also - a person has to be resident in this country for 2 years before they can collect social welfare so it's untrue to say the government is handing out dole to anyone who walks in.



I'm glad you don't care if we think you're racist, cause I do think you are.

They were speaking another language-and i know a lot of black- coloured- even chinese people who were born and still live here-What I am annoyed about is i couldnt find an irish person on the street if i tried cos theres so many foreigners!

If that makes me racist thats fine!

Doctor J

I'll bet the foreigners you speak ill of make a better fist at writing English though.

What the hell is all this gibberish? Are you a rap artist from South Central Los Angeles?

pepper wrote:

cuz im not the only 1

Well how else we gonna say it

diff races

include u and everyone u know!

I can't stand coming onto a good honest to jaysus Irish website and getting bombarded with this kind of verbal slop from people who can't even type in English! What the hell were the 800 years of oppression for if we're going to soil the English language with lazy efforts behind the keyboard. Cromwell would be rolling in his grave! At least the foreigners have an excuse for bad English, someone who has lived here and been processed by the education system should at least be able to make their point clearly in the primary language of the country!

pepper

Robbo wrote:

And does this fine bastion of quality journalism have an online version to which we can refer? Have those southern Tipperary Woodward and Bernsteins found damning evidence that the CSO is a sham and merely a front for a wider immigrant conspiracy?

no its a free paper so no online 1

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Ok, a few things.

1) Believeing that the govt. should tightne up immigration procedure does NOT make you racist. You MIGHT be labeled as a hypocriete considering Ireland's past and the emigrants that left these shores for other lands.

2) Thinking that immigrants are only here for social beneifts will make you a racist. I work in an office where we have two poles and a lithuanian working in the warehouse, and apparently they're like horses when it comes to getting work done.

3) Fish supper in the paper - excellent line!

Miguel_Sanchez

I'd say the OP is a member of this group:

http://www.geocities.com/nakedgalway/12-anti.htm

tbh

Mrs_Doyle wrote:

I do feel slightly frustrated when I can't find an English or Irish speaking person in my local SPAR, when the guy on directory enquiries can't give me the information I need, because he is NOT fluent in our countries First language, and when my sister can't get a job in the local restaurant, despite having experience, and is told it is because she is demanding too much money (€9.50 per hour), when there are plenty of foreigners who will work for less!

I take it then that by your rationale, if there were no foreigners in the country, all those problems would disappear because all those jobs would be filled by Irish people?

and when my sister can't get a job in the local restaurant, despite having experience, and is told it is because she is demanding too much money (€9.50 per hour), when there are plenty of foreigners who will work for less!

more likely what would happen is that those spars and directory enquiries would close down because no-one wants to work there. There's plenty of work for everyone in this country. If there are foreigners who will work for less, fair play to them, if they can survive on it. would it be more acceptable if it were IRISH people willing to work for less?

peppar wrote:

I am just pissed off that i cant walk down the street without seeing a million foreigners!

why does it bother you? Are they in your way? are they dropping litter? Or are you just worried that they are all talking about you in their secret language :rolleyes:

and i saw 3 FOREIGN GUYS COME OUT OF THERE! If the irish government is handing out the dole to anyone who walks in to the country they are bigger spastics than i thought!

are you on the dole? if not, what difference does it make to you? There is an election coming up, are you going to stand, so you can change the system? or are you just going to bitch about it for the rest of your life.

quad_red

Mrs_Doyle wrote:

...and when my sister can't get a job in the local restaurant, despite having experience, and is told it is because she is demanding too much money (€9.50 per hour), when there are plenty of foreigners who will work for less!

And whose fault it that?

It's the greedy rich IRISH twats, that's whose fault it is.

The rich get richer and are finding even more vulnerable people to exploit.

And moving abroad to another country, undercutting the existing wage structures is something we Irish are specialists at.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Doctor J wrote:

I'll bet the foreigners you speak ill of make a better fist at writing English though.

What the hell is all this gibberish? Are you a rap artist from South Central Los Angeles?



I can't stand coming onto a good honest to jaysus Irish website and getting bombarded with this kind of verbal slop from people who can't even type in English! What the hell were the 800 years of oppression for if we're going to soil the English language with lazy efforts behind the keyboard. Cromwell would be rolling in his grave! At least the foreigners have an excuse for bad English, someone who has lived here and been processed by the education system should at least be able to make their point clearly in the primary language of the country!

Seconded.

Gordon

pepper wrote:

They were speaking another language-and i know a lot of black- coloured- even chinese people who were born and still live here-What I am annoyed about is i couldnt find an irish person on the street if i tried cos theres so many foreigners!

If that makes me racist thats fine!

Can you change the topic of the thread to reflect your new found racism please?

pepper

Doctor J wrote:

I'll bet the foreigners you speak ill of make a better fist at writing English though.

What the hell is all this gibberish? Are you a rap artist from South Central Los Angeles?



I can't stand coming onto a good honest to jaysus Irish website and getting bombarded with this kind of verbal slop from people who can't even type in English! What the hell were the 800 years of oppression for if we're going to soil the English language with lazy efforts behind the keyboard. Cromwell would be rolling in his grave! At least the foreigners have an excuse for bad English, someone who has lived here and been processed by the education system should at least be able to make their point clearly in the primary language of the country!

Im sure its not how they write that anyone cares about- u cant call it an irish website if this country is bearly irish anymore-u talk about 800 years of oppression ? So we fought for 800 years to get our country back from Britian so that it could be invaded AGAIN did we?

Some free Ireland!

mickoneill30

By saying "I'm not racist, but" you're saying I'm not racist but I'm about to say something racist. In which case you can just leave out the "I'm not racist, but" at the start of your sentence. It's just a way of softening up a statment.

For your statement in post one you say

"I am just pissed off that i cant walk down the street without seeing a million foreigners! "

I don't think that's racist. Daft, yes, but not racist, so there would be no need to put the "I'm not racist, but" to defend yourself before the sentence. It's just your opinion. One that probably means you must hate going to any foreign country.

Doing a quick Google of the statement brings up some interesting links.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=i'm+not+racist,+but+.+.+.

http://mousewords.blogspot.com/2004/08/winner-of-im-not-racist-but-contest.html

http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/cameron_duodu/2006/04/cameron_duodu_noone_is_racist.html

Now I'm not thick but I can't think of anything else to type.

Miguel_Sanchez

pepper wrote:

i know a lot of black- coloured- even chinese people who were born and still live here-What I am annoyed about is i couldnt find an irish person on the street if i tried cos theres so many foreigners!

So you're fine with the black and chinese people who are born here? It's just the first generation you have a problem with? That makes great sense.

How'd you think the Chinese-Irish got here in the first place? Their parents or their grandparents had to come here at some point.

Hydroquinone

Dickmcsavage wrote:

I mean I was in Canada all summer working myself but I just don't like when this sort of immigration begins to affect our national identity.

And that doesn't strike you as remotely hypocritical? What does a Canadian look like? What's their national identity? Could it possibly be made up of immigrants and foreigners?

As for pepper, you really are racist. No buts about it.
But if that's what floats your boat, get on with it.
21, eh? I graduated from university with a degree in chemistry few years after you were born. Everyone I knew had to leave the country because there were no jobs here, you can't remember those days, but it seems to me that you need a little education in the way economics work.
People who have no jobs leave the their own country to go to where the jobs are. That's it.
If you don't understand that, then you're snookered

Robbo

pepper wrote:

no its a free paper so no online 1

Extraordinary! Even with limited resources, a provincial freesheet has the moxy to bring down the whole system. This truly is a victory for this democratisation of the media lark and by extension, bloggers and assorted other internet jerks.

The Hill Billy

Gordon wrote:

Can you change the topic of the thread to reflect your new found racism please?

Silly Gordon - They'd incur the wrath of a Mod then.

Charter wrote:

Racism
- Topics/posts containing such will be edited/deleted accordingly.

Doctor J

pepper wrote:

Im sure its not how they write that anyone cares about- u cant call it an irish website if this country is bearly irish anymore-u talk about 800 years of oppression ? So we fought for 800 years to get our country back from Britian so that it could be invaded AGAIN did we?

Some free Ireland!

If we got our country back why do you try to converse like an American? Surely if foreign things are bad mmmmkay and shouldn't be in our country it should include American slang? If you're going to make a point at least make an effort to do it in the language of this country's people, don't be acting like them nasty foreigners, next thing you'll be wearing baggy pants and putting a baseball cap on sideways :eek:

pepper

Jeff_Lebowski wrote:

So you're fine with the black and chinese people who are born here? It's just the first generation you have a problem with? That makes great sense.

How'd you think the Chinese-Irish got here in the first place? Their parents or their grandparents had to come here at some point.

they came here when the place wasnt crawling with foreingers- where it was possible to walk into an interview room and feel confident rather than worrying cos of the polish guy whos being interviewed next!!!

Miguel_Sanchez

pepper wrote:

Im sure its not how they write that anyone cares about- u cant call it an irish website if this country is bearly irish anymore-u talk about 800 years of oppression ? So we fought for 800 years to get our country back from Britian so that it could be invaded AGAIN did we?

The country is barely Irish anymore? Since when? Last time I checked we still drink too much, grumble about the weather, are crap at soccer and love the craic. Yup - still Irish as Irish can be.

I like the way you think immigration equals invasion. That's cute. You're a little cute racist. C'mere and I'll give you a patronising pat on the head. Ya daft racist.

pepper

Robbo wrote:

Extraordinary! Even with limited resources, a provincial freesheet has the moxy to bring down the whole system. This truly is a victory for this democratisation of the media lark and by extension, bloggers and assorted other internet jerks.

ya right i stopped reading after the first line thats how bored i got!!!

pepper

Doctor J wrote:

If we got our country back why do you try to converse like an American? Surely if foreign things are bad mmmmkay and shouldn't be in our country it should include American slang? If you're going to make a point at least make an effort to do it in the language of this country's people, don't be acting like them nasty foreigners, next thing you'll be wearing baggy pants and putting a baseball cap on sideways :eek:

that made NO sense whatsoever what ya dragging the americans into this for?You have got nothing to back up any of what your saying so your just talking crap now!

pepper

Jeff_Lebowski wrote:

The country is barely Irish anymore? Since when? Last time I checked we still drink too much, grumble about the weather, are crap at soccer and love the craic. Yup - still Irish as Irish can be.

I like the way you think immigration equals invasion. That's cute. You're a little cute racist. C'mere and I'll give you a patronising pat on the head. Ya daft racist.

seriously ya actually think your funny? god bless!

Miguel_Sanchez

pepper wrote:

they came here when the place wasnt crawling with foreingers- where it was possible to walk into an interview room and feel confident rather than worrying cos of the polish guy whos being interviewed next!!!

Aha! So we've figured it out - you're just insecure about yourself because you think you're underqualified and that the renowned work ethic of the Polish people will mean you're going to have to work harder yourself. That's your problem bub - don't be blaming the Poles if you're just plain lazy.