ATM Machines

faceman · 22-09-2006 07:43PM #1

ok so we as a race and with our technology:

* Can land on the moon
* can have a machine breath for someone
* have microchipes smaller than what the tip of your finger

but with all our technology advances we cant invent an ATM that asks you a simple multiple choice question - how much money do you want to withdraw and dispense that amount!!

Why does a machine let you select €50 and then tell you it can only dispense in €20 notes??? And then when you go back to select again, €50 is still an option!!

Its harder than Suduko!!

wba88 · 22-09-2006 07:46PM

i know wrecks ur head especially when ur in a hurry!

Sillyaspie · 22-09-2006 07:47PM

get over yourself,
big deal.
More worrying issues to concern our specie with.

faceman · 22-09-2006 07:49PM

Sillyaspie wrote:

get over yourself,
big deal.
More worrying issues to concern our specie with.

like what?

subway · 22-09-2006 07:49PM

hah,
i love them machines that dont take your card inside
"insert card"
"remove card"
"insert card"
"remove card"
"enter pin"
"insert card"

its my favorite game, its a bit like tetris.
can be confusing when your drunk though

LadyJ · 22-09-2006 07:50PM

It's just ATM. The "m" stands for "machine".

subway · 22-09-2006 07:52PM

LadyJ wrote:

It's just ATM. The "m" stands for "machine".

zing!

bluto63 · 22-09-2006 07:52PM

faceman wrote:

Its harder than Suduko!!

Is that supposed to show how hard it is?

Ruu_Old · 22-09-2006 07:56PM

ATMs are great fun, sure I always enter my pin incorrectly just to see it eat my card up. Hours of entertainment going in and out of the bank getting your pin reset.

LadyJ · 22-09-2006 07:58PM

[Dylan Moran] Just show me the button with the picture of the pint on it! [/Dylan Moran]

faceman · 22-09-2006 07:59PM

bluto63 wrote:

Is that supposed to show how hard it is?

no you have to work that out for yourself.

Muzzy · 22-09-2006 09:29PM

It's even worse when the ATM accepts yer card.......Accepts yer Pin......Lets you enter the desired amount......makes noise, you think you got yer money on the way and BANG.....Yer account balence is zip

Could it not have told me when I entered my PIN.

........And yes, I am a student(well, just finished), how did ye guess?

Dooom · 22-09-2006 09:31PM

What always scares me is the "Enter amount in multiples of 20".
Wtf? I want a friggin' tenner!

stepbar · 22-09-2006 09:34PM

because someone has taken out too many 20's and there's no more left.... thats why theres only 50's left Okay?

WhiteWashMan · 22-09-2006 09:36PM

LadyJ wrote:

It's just ATM. The "m" stands for "machine".

all terrain machine?

i aint never seen one in the desert yet

AdMMM · 22-09-2006 11:22PM

The Multiples of twenty confused me for a while. I used to keep entering in "3" expecting to get €60 only to find an error instead! I don't mind them generally. The "EasyCash" ones that ask you to remove your card before entering in your pin are annoying however. Oftentimes it doesn't register you putting in your card or taking it out and just freezes. Very annoying!

optiplexgx270 · 22-09-2006 11:26PM

When this happens to me i follow this guys example.

http://blog.wired.com/27BStroke6/index.blog?entry_id=1560245

fly_agaric · 22-09-2006 11:45PM

LadyJ wrote:

It's just ATM. The "m" stands for "machine".

But its kind of forgivable. No?
ATM is sort of one of those acronyms which has become a word in itself, like Laser, Radar, Lcd, Led etc (although I suppose it really needs more vowels to really become just another word in the way Radar and Laser (and Led?) have....).

L31mr0d · 23-09-2006 12:19AM

PEBCAK in fairness.

Its an ATM for gods sake, I never have a problem with them... because I know how to use them. Those people that spend more than 20 seconds at an ATM getting money out are to me your archetypal "twelve o'clock blinkers", as in all their appliances in their house are blinking 12:00 constantly. Just learn what is needed of you to get your money out and then repeat that the next time. When withdrawing money, try and choose a value that is a multiple of 20, you will have a greater chance of getting it first try.

andrew163 · 23-09-2006 12:24AM

Don't the UlsterBank (I think.. might be some other bank) ones tell you when you can't have certain multiples?

Nehpets · 23-09-2006 12:39AM

They're not THAT bad but I agree they could be better

nobodythere · 23-09-2006 12:53AM

Muzzy wrote:

........And yes, I am a student(well, just finished), how did ye guess?

Students are loaded they just blow all their money on crap.

Yes it is fairly lazy programming indeed, but considering that every single one does it and there's a few different versions of ATM software around there must be some logical reason....

....There's wally.

Sparky · 23-09-2006 01:11AM

I find the BOI atms bang on. Any of the others are old and slow.

In branch cash machines are a pain in the arse.
I was using one in a spar. I waited 2 minutes then a message came up saying it couldn't communicate with the bank.
Low and behold the cashier was on the phone.

Muzzy · 23-09-2006 04:40AM

grasshopa wrote:

Students are loaded they just blow all their money on crap.

Buckie & credit is not crap thank you very much!!!

Be nice, you may end up working for me someday!!!! (My tonge is giving me a pain in the cheek now; I hope yer happy!!)

23-09-2006 05:20AM

Was behind a guy waiting my turn for the ATM. He apparently was not pleased with what was happening, as he started swearing at the machine. He then wacked it with the palm of his hand and charged off, still swearing. I am always amazed when someone starts talking to machines. No, you are not Neo and this is not The Matrix.

slade_x · 23-09-2006 07:07AM

faceman wrote:

ok so we as a race and with our technology:

* Can land on the moon
* can have a machine breath for someone
* have microchipes smaller than what the tip of your finger

but with all our technology advances we cant invent an ATM that asks you a simple multiple choice question - how much money do you want to withdraw and dispense that amount!!

Why does a machine let you select €50 and then tell you it can only dispense in €20 notes??? And then when you go back to select again, €50 is still an option!!

Its harder than Suduko!!

Because the problem starts with the spooling and so is not a feature of the system. when you select €50 that input is only queried in the system when it requests to feed the spools. not when it gives you the amount selection

Basically it only knows it can not dispense 2x€20 and 1x€10 when it goes to actually get the €10. it doesnt check the supply when it gives you the amount withdrawal options (eg. €20, 40, 50, 60, 80, etc...).

Its a relatively simplistic system, to overcomplicate it would add to resources and not to mention add more issues to troubleshoot. the ATM is simplistic to keep downtime to a minimum.

Lastly as im sure you may already know the ATM doesnt have a direct feed from the vault so it has to be stocked with a limited amount of notes. hence it will inevitably run out of certain notes.

OR

The simple sarcastic answer you could have come to yourself:

Because its not programmed to!!

As its more cost effective to leave that simple choice up to the human operator, that being you. If you really need €50 and it cant dispense €10's or 1x€50 then whats so complicated about withdrawing €60

Also we as a race dont have the means to execute or have the technology you mentioned available to us anyway. The more important thing to know about us as a race is greed/ cost effectiveness

And to be a complete ass, i think the more pressing question would be, how we as a race with all our technology, do not progress as with our technologies. Of all the other questions to ask ill pose the the question how haven't we eliminated world poverty, etc, etc, etc....

We're still cavemen/ women we just have fancier tools at our disposal, as the only thing that ever changes over time, is our technology and the gods we choose to worship.

Hobbes · 23-09-2006 07:56AM

heh thought the thread was about this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmW_4R81jVU

Although I am not sure if any Irish ATM machines are flawed.

The thing that annoys the fuk out of me is the ATM in clarehall. Card in, withdraw 400.. sorry you have a limit of 200. Withdraw 200, get money, put card back in and withdraw 200 again. get money.

The Gentleman · 23-09-2006 08:55AM

L31mr0d wrote:

PEBCAK in fairness.

Its an ATM for gods sake, I never have a problem with them... because I know how to use them. Those people that spend more than 20 seconds at an ATM getting money out are to me your archetypal "twelve o'clock blinkers", as in all their appliances in their house are blinking 12:00 constantly. Just learn what is needed of you to get your money out and then repeat that the next time. When withdrawing money, try and choose a value that is a multiple of 20, you will have a greater chance of getting it first try.

I'm with you there.

I get extremely frustrated with imbeciles taking forever to carry out blindingly simple transactions at ATMs.

It would appear that we have a lot of 'first timers' living among us.

nobodythere · 23-09-2006 11:34AM

Still, once it goes to get the €10 note and realises it ain't there, it wouldn't be a big deal to take €10 off the menu!

Skittlebrau · 23-09-2006 01:47PM

What annoys me is that when I'm home in Ireland and want to check my AIB balance I have to go to an AIB ATM but in America or Australia I can check my AIB balance from any ATM.

How hard can it be to integrate all the Irish banks?

astrofool · 23-09-2006 05:06PM

slade_x is kinda right in that they try and keep the machine as stupid as possible to reduce errors that may occur and let the human operating the machine deal with its limitations.

But the real answer in why the machine can't know to remove those values from the menu, is that to update the machine costs money, and banks have never been about spending money unnecessarily.

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