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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 390 ✭✭kwalsh000


    If someone hits you, you will hit back, minimum force or not, you will do your best to restrain them, but if they are kicking like a mad thing and if they are drunk then you will have no choice but to use more force. Remember you are out having a good time when this happens and the garda in question may have been out all day and witnessed god knows what at accidents etc. Granted alot of gob*****s get into the garda, but in all honesty when it comes to pub situations and fights there can be nothing much done from their end if its one person drunk/or been drinking and another person is sober. If someone drunk came up to you and accused a sober person of doing something and the sober person denied it, who would you believe.

    While alot of you may hate the garda and some it goes further, ie. they will go out of their way to start trouble. You have to remember the garda, fireservice, paramedics etc are doing their jobs day in and day out helping people but you will get society giving them **** on a daily basis, attacking them, taking them to court, generally giving them abuse. Before any of you out there who dislike them start giving them abuse, step back and think could you do the job and think about how you generalise them..because in the end of the day there are more scumbags and general gob*****s out there on the street than there are garda scum.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭Wez


    synopsis
    Drunk kid tells garda blah blah
    sober bouncer tells garda blah blah
    Drunk kid posts immature comment on boards


    Well for beginners I'd had two cans (an hour beforehand) and a pint inside (half an hour beforehand) so I wasn't at all tipsy hence why I remember every bit of it. The gaurds should be properly trained to deal with those kinda situations anyway, it's their job at the end of the day, you're not told how to say do a company's accounts without them making sure you're a proper trained accountant, why should they be out on the streets without proper training?

    They didn't have to be properly trained to realise if they tell me to go to the garda station in the morning and realise it'd send me packing. I absolutely detest the gaurds after seeing how they handle situations lately, I'd rather grab a hammer and take the law into my own hands than call those fools..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 390 ✭✭kwalsh000


    But by having that attidude of taking the law into your own hands are you not just making the problem worse? Instead of taking it as a bad experience and getting on with it realising that there are good garda out there, you are going to be one of the people who causes the trouble in the first place. Just making an observation from your statement


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,611 ✭✭✭✭Sam Vimes


    i saw an incident last night where a gard behaved fantastically. there were about ten people in a fight, the main people being some girls pulling each others hair and who were probably boyfriends at each other too. right scum the lot of them.

    the one gard that was there jumped right into the centre of it all and pulled them apart but they kept going back together and there were maybe four separate groups fighting.

    one guy kept coming right up behind the gard. at first he walked him away and said something to him, generally just "go away". but the guy kept coming right up behind the gard so he held him against the wall by the throat, not hard or anything, and told him to **** off. he was constantly calling for backup too.

    then the gard went back trying to sort everyone out. the other guy ran up behind him, punched him in the head and legged it. the gard ran after him, grabbed him and hit his legs with his baton until he fell to the ground. then another gard arrived and held the guy down.

    he came over to me and my mate holding his head and we stood around him. more gards arrivedand starting screaming at me and my mate but the gard told them to leave us alone :)

    i think he showed amazing bravery for jumping into that and restraint in not beating the guys head in when he caught him.

    i have the whole thing on video but i won't post it yet because i'm being called in to give a statement about it in the next few days


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,808 ✭✭✭Dooom


    POST IT POST IT POST IT POST IT!

    I've started to find "When cops retaliate" type things brilliant. Nothin' like seeing a scumbag get his come-uppins.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,611 ✭✭✭✭Sam Vimes


    Spike wrote:
    POST IT POST IT POST IT POST IT!

    I've started to find "When cops retaliate" type things brilliant. Nothin' like seeing a scumbag get his come-uppins.
    yeah, it was great. you can hear me in the background cheering the gard on :D i'm not going to post it until i give the statement though


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,082 ✭✭✭lostexpectation


    Stekelly wrote:
    Why? Why does a scumbag like that deserve restraint?


    because someday that scumbag could be you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,611 ✭✭✭✭Sam Vimes


    because someday that scumbag could be you?
    well i'm not a scumbag so it would never be me. a gard would never find it necessary to physically restrain me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,595 ✭✭✭johnnyrotten


    EOA_Mushy wrote:
    The original kid knew what was coming to him. The older scumbag, and i say this for any one -> if hit, hit back.

    Strongest survive.

    In scumbag land, who cares who survives. A loss among them is a joy for the rest of us.



    As for this rubbish. What if it was you?

    My point is that the only people who had no right to raise a hand were the garda.

    Get a GRIP!


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 3,331 ✭✭✭Splinter


    you pick a fight with a member of the public and expect people that are there to uphold the law not to get involvled?? come on!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 Ao


    Wez wrote:
    .... I absolutely detest the gaurds after seeing how they handle situations lately, I'd rather grab a hammer and take the law into my own hands than call those fools..

    Sutiations would indicate youve seen a couple of incidents with the gardai yet you only outline one - why , what other situations have you seen ?
    So you'd rather grab a hammer and take the law into your own hands and you think the guards are fools ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,915 ✭✭✭StupidLikeAFox


    Wouldnt have happened in Croke Park....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,374 ✭✭✭kirving


    I've been to a good few Matches, and the Gards have always done a good job controlling the crowds. No Complaints about them at all.


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