do you think this is rude?

bacon? · 08-09-2006 11:19AM

chump wrote:

I wouldn't have a problem with it. Especially if I travelled with the same person on a regular basis.
Sometimes people just aren't in the mood to talk, particularly on a busy bus/train first thing in the morning.
GET OVER YOURSELF PAL

don't call me pal.

Terry · 08-09-2006 11:59AM

WhiteWashMan wrote:

when people take out their phones and start texting, thats rude as far as im concerned.
i dont think readin is rude personally, unless you in the middle of a chat.

in fact, its no different than reading a magazine or a newspaper,and people buy those to read on journeys all the time.

totally agree here.
even a polite "excuse me for a minute, please. i just have to send a text message" would be nice.
some people seem to be ruled by their mobile phones.
to quote the great Bill Shatner "would you people...just...get a...life".

as for the book thing. well, politeness comes into play here again.
"hey, bob. would you mind if i read this book? bus journeys really piss me off and this keeps me distracted" or something to that effect.

seamus · 08-09-2006 12:11PM

Depends on the circumstances. On a long journey, there's nothing wrong with a book or an mp3 player. I don't expect anyone to speak to me for the entire duration of a journey, and I would get irritated by someone who felt the need to fill a two hour journey with non-stop talking.

For shorter journeys (say on a bus or something), a book would still be OK, because you can still engage them in conversation if needs be. An mp3 player is completely rude, especially walking down the street. It's basically two fingers to you saying "You bore me, piss off".

DonkeyStyle \o/ · 08-09-2006 01:24PM

WhiteWashMan wrote:

when people take out their phones and start texting, thats rude as far as im concerned.

Yes, especially when they continue the conversation while texting... only sparing you the barest amount of brain power required to keep the conversation going.
Responding with "hmm? oh yeah... well...".
Do me a favour and stop talking to me until you're done texting... don't treat me like I'm a distraction.

Dun laoire · 08-09-2006 01:32PM

I always read the paper on the bus in the mornings when myself and my mate are on the way to work. He's an asshole though

Ickle Magoo · 08-09-2006 01:37PM

I love reading & always have a book handy when on the train, plane, etc but I don't start reading until any conversation with my company has come to a natural end & then I ask if they mind if I read...

Agreeing to share transport with someone then intentionally ignoring them in favour of a book/mobile/text session/whatever is definately rude imo.

Terry · 08-09-2006 01:46PM

Ickle Magoo wrote:

I love reading & always have a book handy when on the train, plane, etc but I don't start reading until any conversation with my company has come to a natural end & then I ask if they mind if I read...

Agreeing to share transport with someone then intentionally ignoring them in favour of a book/mobile/text session/whatever is definately rude imo.

that shouldn't even be a phrase. at least not one that relates to social interaction. whatever about getting a message and excusing yourself to read it and possibly respond. there is no excuse for getting into a "text session" (new phrase courtesy of Ickle Magoo) when you are in company.
just make a damn call and sort it out in a 2 minute call, instead of spending all night texting back and forth.

ANarcho-Munk · 08-09-2006 09:42PM

The question I have to ask when people start texting in front of me is would I be the one they were texting if I wasn't around?

Whenever I see one of my freinds listening to an ipod WHILE i'm trying to have a conversation with them I think to myself am I really deserving of their time.

Some people are like cyborgs they never take their earphones out of their ears!!!!!!

chump · 08-09-2006 09:45PM

bacon? wrote:

don't call me pal.

sorry bud

Nehpets · 09-09-2006 01:28AM

chump wrote:

sorry bud

lol.

On a short bus journey the book thing IS rude. So are MP3 players, esp when walking .. even if they only have one ear peice in:rolleyes:

The texting is the worst though. What's the point in talking to someone that is talking to someone else about something probably unrelated

The Gentleman · 09-09-2006 10:15AM

If conversation has dried up asking if your companion minds is the correct thing to do but phones are a different matter altogether. People don't seem to understand that phones are simply a way of communicating with another person. If I am talking to someone I will not turn away in the middle of a sentence, or conversation, to talk to someone else beside me. Likewise I will not answer the phone, or text, if I am in the middle of a conversation.

If someone texts or answers the phone while talking to you then you have to ask yourself if that person is worth being with as they are showing an utter lack of respect for you.

If you were talking to someone and they turned away from you and started talking to another person you would, rightly, feel degraded and no prizes are being awarded for guessing what you would do next.

09-09-2006 10:20AM

Mm, generally if I'm talking to someone and I get a text I try and ignore it or if I think it's important I'll apologise and check it as quickly as I can, and again skip replying unless I have to.

bluto63 · 09-09-2006 05:02PM

bacon? wrote:

if it was a long train/bus journey, then this wouldn't be an issue at all. i'm talking about a 15/20 min journey.

Then I would consider it rude. You should be able to carry out a conversation with someone for 20mins, even if there are gaps in between without talking.

Pigman II · 09-09-2006 05:20PM

No your friend is not rude. I think people talking on a bus is rude. Shut the hell up on the bus and give the heads of the rest of us some peace.

The Gentleman · 09-09-2006 09:15PM

Can you imagine a world where people did not talk when on buses? I can and it sure scares the hell out of me. People chatting together when on buses is great.

seinstein · 10-09-2006 02:51PM

hmm...I've read about 70% of the posts and the thoughts of this being rude
seems to be pretty even.
At the beginning I thougt it not to be rude but as I read on, my view started to change. I especially fellt that the ipod while walking was very rude.
But if you feel like you're friend is ignoring you and you aren't prepared to challenge them about it, it just proves that you're not really bothered by it as much as you say you are...:cool:

Well at least that's my opinion anyway.:D

Sangre · 10-09-2006 02:54PM

The Gentleman wrote:

If someone texts or answers the phone while talking to you then you have to ask yourself if that person is worth being with as they are showing an utter lack of respect for you.

Answering the phone? Get a grip.

bluto63 · 10-09-2006 04:42PM

The Gentleman wrote:

Can you imagine a world where people did not talk when on buses? I can and it sure scares the hell out of me. People chatting together when on buses is great.

It's grand as long as it isn't about 10 drunk 16 year olds. They piss me off the most(although I have been those groups before...:o )

Ruu_Old · 10-09-2006 04:44PM

The Gentleman wrote:

Can you imagine a world where people did not talk when on buses? I can and it sure scares the hell out of me. People chatting together when on buses is great.

It is how everyone catches up with the latest episide of Fair City, Emmerdale and all the others without having to watch the telly.

Sarky · 10-09-2006 05:41PM

bluewolf wrote:

Mm, generally if I'm talking to someone and I get a text I try and ignore it or if I think it's important I'll apologise and check it as quickly as I can, and again skip replying unless I have to.

Is this why you never reply to my text messages? You must be really busy every day, I send dozens of the things and you never respond!

The Bollox · 10-09-2006 05:46PM

a friend of mine is a like that aswell. not only on public transport, but if we were eating somewhere he would pull out a newspaper and dig his nose into it. I would attempt to engage him in conversation and he would just mumble or grunt

Chinafoot · 10-09-2006 06:08PM

Maybe it was just a really good book?

Nah I agree that it seems a bit rude but like Blue Lagoon said, if you're sitting there saying nothing then you can't really complain. If it bothers you so much then say it to your mate. If it was me and there was no conversation happening then I probably would pull out a book for the 20 minute journey.

If you're trying to have a conversation with him and he keeps reading then yes, thats rude.

The Gentleman wrote:

If someone texts or answers the phone while talking to you then you have to ask yourself if that person is worth being with as they are showing an utter lack of respect for you.

I agree with you somewhat on the texting part, although perhaps not as dramatically as all that, but answering the phone?! I have no problem if someone answers their phone while they're talking to me. Could be important, who knows. I might get a bit annoyed if we're in the middle of discussing something important and they have a waffly, nothing conversation with the person while I'm standing there waiting, but in my experience, if the call isn't important people have always ended the call saying something along the lines of "can i call you back in a bit? i'm just with someone at the moment."

bluto63 wrote:

I do this and so do a few of my friends. I don't mind it, also others don't seem to mind it. As long as it doesn't interfer the conversation then it shouldn't matter. Like the other day I had to keep asking my friend to repeat himself so I turned it off.

That, to me, is incredibly rude.

bluto63 · 10-09-2006 06:12PM

I don't see why. It's pretty much the same as having music on in the background

Chinafoot · 10-09-2006 06:18PM

bluto63 wrote:

I don't see why. It's pretty much the same as having music on in the background

It's hardly the same if you have to keep asking your friend to repeat himself.

flamingo · 10-09-2006 11:15PM

ooo don't get me started on this!

was on holidays recently with a friend id not been away with before, and each evening she would whip out her book at the restuarant table and just read. ignore me completely and leave me sitting there like a bored pillock! id never in my wildest dreams think of doing that to someone!

twas the same on any bus/boat trip - the ipod earphones'd be popped in and the book pulled out ...

i found it incredibly rude and ignorant, to be honest. put a tarnish on the rest of the trip

i may as well have been travelling on my own - i swear to God, i spoke less on that holiday than i have in years - thank God for the lovely friendly chatty people we met in hostel the last week or so!

bluto63 · 10-09-2006 11:22PM

peachypants wrote:

It's hardly the same if you have to keep asking your friend to repeat himself.

I said that I turned the music off when I could'nt hear him. But if it doesn't effect the conversation in any way I don't see the problem

User45701 · 11-09-2006 09:03AM

its the same as being on the bus and someoe u know just starts listening to there ipod or other music thing thats just as rude

Chinafoot · 11-09-2006 12:35PM

bluto63 wrote:

I said that I turned the music off when I could'nt hear him. But if it doesn't effect the conversation in any way I don't see the problem

Actually no, what you said was,

bluto63 wrote:

Like the other day I had to keep asking my friend to repeat himself so I turned it off.

Which is what I classed as rude. If you have to ask someone to repeat themselves more than once because of something you have chosen to stick in your ears and can quite easily remove then you're being rude.

But let's just agree to disagree.

flamingo wrote:

was on holidays recently with a friend id not been away with before, and each evening she would whip out her book at the restuarant table and just read. ignore me completely and leave me sitting there like a bored pillock! id never in my wildest dreams think of doing that to someone!

That's horrible! Was it just the two of you there? I'd have paid my share of the bill and left tbh.

BrenC · 11-09-2006 01:34PM

Its happened to me before, you're just talking to someone you haven't been talking to in a while and you run out of things to say.

Then both people usually turn their attention to something else

do you think this is rude?

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