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Me? Grow'd up?

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  • #32
    Jotter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 224 ✭✭Jotter


    The op didnt say he was living at home to save money bec rent was dead money though, he said himself he doesnt pay bills, has no savings, no car, cant drive, cant cook, and by the sounds of things is kinda proud that he cant do any of these things. Are you single and if not how did you get a girl/boy? I have no objections to people living at home if all parties are happy with arrangement but you need to be able to be independant at 25, ie cook clean contribute to household and save. Id be incredibly disappointed in my parenting if my child turns out to be as helpless as you! Theres a big huge difference between not being grown up and being a complete baby - what a turn off yuk!


  • #33
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    dahooligan wrote:


    So, if you were to start college at 18, finish at 24, .
    You spent six years at uni?Whay were you doing(failing probably more like it?:eek:


  • #34
    Smellyirishman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,285 ✭✭✭Smellyirishman


    Degree + Masters? Doctorite?

    Not uncommon, although some might opt to do a masters at night.


  • #35
    Mrs_Doyle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭Mrs_Doyle


    Deleted User wrote:
    You spent six years at uni?Whay were you doing(failing probably more like it?:eek:


    Hey!:o I spent 5 years in college, I have my degree now, plus HND.
    Just cos I still live at home does not mean I am a stoner or a waster.
    I wanted to better myself by obtaining a good education.
    This is my first year out of college. Gimme a chance to catch my breath.
    I don't plan on living with the folks forever, but right now I am very happy where I am.


  • #36
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Mrs_Doyle wrote:
    Hey!:o I spent 5 years in college, I have my degree now, plus HND.
    Just cos I still live at home does not mean I am a stoner or a waster.
    I wanted to better myself by obtaining a good education.
    This is my first year out of college. Gimme a chance to catch my breath.
    I don't plan on living with the folks forever, but right now I am very happy where I am.

    Whats a HND?


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  • #37
    Smellyirishman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,285 ✭✭✭Smellyirishman


    Higher National Diploma.

    {EDIT} Hum, that's weird my response was right after the Dazzler... anywho


  • #38
    projectmayhem
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,421 ✭✭✭projectmayhem


    i'm 21, in college and have no plans to move out just yet. i'm saving up and moving into an apt/flat somewhere in the city with 2 mates is becoming a viable option, not because "we just want to" or because we want to pump "dead money" into some landlords bulging pockets, but because there comes a point when you get sick of living with the parents and want some extra freedom.

    not that i have no freedom here. my room is in the attic and is rarely entered by anyone other then me, i clean my room and look after it like it was a flat i was renting (i throw some money my mom's way out of my wages all the time, since she DOES cook and clean my clothes!).

    though in terms of being a baby, i think everyone by their 20's should have watched their parents cook enough to be able to whip up some good meals. i can make a pretty mean italian or mexican dinner ;) and by your 20's you should be looking after whatever living space you have (i.e. bedroom) like it was a flat... just to be clean, and for the sake of not being caught off guard when you do eventually move out.


  • #39
    WhiteWashMan
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    i will always be 18.


  • #40
    Rhyme
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    I don't think ill ever be what i saw as 'grown up'. There'll always be something ahead of a person be it a place of their own, a spouse (perhaps), a shiny new car or a lesson from older people.

    Perhaps when ive retired and i actually feel as if ive achieved enough to constitute a good life ill say im 'grown up'.


  • #41
    Darren1o1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 744 ✭✭✭Darren1o1


    I'm gonna keep rocking forever.....forever.....forever...... I think by early 20's most should be able to fend for themselves eg Financially, Cooking, washing etc. But in these days house prices are crazy, it is just a head start to stay on home a little longer after uni until finances are a little more clear cut!


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  • #42
    pclancy
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    I moved out when i was 18 and have rented ever since, cooking/cleaning etc for meself, most of my male mates are the same, I think the days of living at home for mammies cooking are long over.

    I think the OPs cirumstances are such that its just worked out really well to live the life he has done. I would have gone mad living at home and without my own car but thats just me. Each to their own and **** it, if his parents are able to support him and want him there and he's happy whats the harm? Might be a good few years late on life experiance but at least hes got a good education and clean slate to start with instead of debt etc that lots of students get into.

    Off topic why do ye reckon rent is dead money? Massive rents way higher then mortages fair enuf but I live in a lovely big house with two mates and pay €200 a month. All maintennce done by landlord and no worries of massive mortage payments or jumping interest rates. I dont call it dead money, thats a real old irish phrase, I call it letting someone else pay the mortage. When I want a house I'll buy one but I want to see the world and enjoy myself first!


  • #43
    Ruu_Old
    Closed Accounts Posts: 36,634 ✭✭✭✭Ruu_Old


    I moved out when I was around 19 I think, over to England to stay with my aunt a few months, got my self together and started working then back home for a while more and in the US for a year now. :)


  • #44
    evad_lhorg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,929 ✭✭✭evad_lhorg


    Im 20 and a half :p and i have no intentions of moving out to pay rent in some apartment. it may as well be dead money. Id rather stay at home until i can afford to get a house of some sort. especially while im in college. Being away from the parents is great and all but whats the point if you are pissing your money away on rent?


  • #45
    scojones
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭scojones


    How's the job market in the US Ruu? Specifically IT.


  • #46
    Ruu_Old
    Closed Accounts Posts: 36,634 ✭✭✭✭Ruu_Old


    Well in the town I live in theres plenty but you are battling college students here all the time so theres not much room, a lot travel to Chicago and to California which is full of software developers. There are Intel and Ibm offices in town but they deal with software only here.


  • #47
    Tar.Aldarion
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    I've been grown up since I was about fifteen. Moved out a few years back. Like independence. Once you move out, it is like hell to go back, it's so much better out there living with friends etc.


  • #48
    Sleepy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 25,000 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    RENT IS NOT DEAD MONEY!

    That's such a stupid expression, it's really starting to annoy me. Owning your own house is not the most important thing in the world, especially if it means you have no decent standard of living while scrimping to pay a mortgage no banking system with a conscience would have given you to buy a sub-standard, seriously over-valued pokey little apartment/semi-D in the suburbs where you have no services/community of any sort.

    Rent is like an NTL connection, a phone line, your gas or electricity or even the interest on your mortgage. It's payment for a service.

    Seriously, admins, can we enter the phrase in the swear word filter, it's stupidity like this which has priced most of the users of this site out of the housing market.

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  • #49
    Ruu_Old
    Closed Accounts Posts: 36,634 ✭✭✭✭Ruu_Old


    Paying rent is not dead money, it will look great on your credit report if you have records of paying your rent on time and being a good tenant.


  • #50
    pclancy
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    Cool. So im not alone in my lack of mortgage wantage!


  • #51
    connundrum
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    Ruu wrote:
    Paying rent is not dead money, it will look great on your credit report if you have records of paying your rent on time and being a good tenant.

    Maybe I should have said, for me - rent was dead money. May I explain..

    In order to get the most cost effective lodgings over my college years I would often have to go with the landlord who wasn't too pleased about my query of a rent book etc. So I have very little evidence as to where I lived over the last 3/4 years (apart from bills addressed to each house). So saying to a bank that I have rented for 3/4 years is useless as I cannot back it up :(

    I needed to live somewhere and rent was the only option for me, and I do accept that it was like a service bill ie. NTL ESB etc.. but I just can't help feeling that it is dead.. if it wasn't then I would be happy renting for the rest of my life - but I'm not.

    I would have loved to have lived at my folks house and saved that €15,000+ rent money for a deposit on a house. But thats me, and this is a bit off topic :o


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  • #52
    [Deleted User]
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    dahooligan wrote:
    At the moment I think I'm a prime example of a non grown up person - I'm nearly 25, still living with the folks, I starve to death when they go away for more than a week. I've no savings, pay feck all bills, can't drive etc etc. I still fight with my family like I did when I was a kid ie. "I'm 24 and I can do what I want!!" :o Thoughts?

    Just like the film, "Failure to Launch?":D


  • #53
    GrumPy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,566 ✭✭✭GrumPy


    jor el wrote:
    So you're in your mid twenties, you can't even make yourself a sandwich, you live at home and pay no bills and yet you have no money, you have no car and can't drive and you fight like a child but still consider yourself an adult. Hmm, lazy git be more like it.

    Do you have a job and if so what do you do with your money? Shoot it up your arm, piss it against a wall, chronic gambling habit?

    I wanna steal your sig idea, but you have it!! Damn you and your getting there first..


  • #54
    Collie D
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,585 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    kaizersoze1 wrote:
    . Move the f*&k out and rent a place like everyone from the country does who moves to dublin. Living with your parents and you're 25 = SAD :rolleyes:

    Country people having to move out when they get a job in Dublin is hardly a choice, is it? I live at home and don't think it's sad, I pay more than my fair share for bills, food, etc. I just don't want to rent so I can pay off someone else's mortgage while they claim tax incentives on the property. I can't afford a house either so as soon as I get enough saved up it's straight to the airport and outta this country. So, in short, keep your small minded opinion to yourself.


  • #55
    Yook
    Closed Accounts Posts: 437 ✭✭Yook


    Collie D wrote:
    Country people having to move out when they get a job in Dublin is hardly a choice, is it? I live at home and don't think it's sad, I pay more than my fair share for bills, food, etc. I just don't want to rent so I can pay off someone else's mortgage while they claim tax incentives on the property. I can't afford a house either so as soon as I get enough saved up it's straight to the airport and outta this country. So, in short, keep your small minded opinion to yourself.

    Well said mate, this is exactly the path that i'm taking aswell. In fact the only reason my parents moved us back to Ireland was because the education is nice and cheap, some places being as far as $25,000 per semester in the US. :eek:

    It's sad to see all the people who have moved out thinking they are somehow superior and have their life in order. I'm sorry if I don't want to work a ****ty job that I hate, pays ****, while strugging to pay rent and just having enough for my couple of pints at the end of the week. My parents understand that to have a decent life I need to focus on studying and not trivial things such as paying rent and shopping for food. I'm going into 3rd year in college now and it has always been the case that I'm doing a Postgrad and MBA. Now argueably im only 19, so I don't really fall into the category portrayed by the OP now, but it will leave me at 24 coming out of college, but the world will be my oyster. I do work, in fact doing post doc research with my Uni, but my parents don't except me to give them anything I earn.


  • #56
    Nehpets
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    I'll be 18 the start of the summer before college. I do a 4 year course.. I should come out at 22, not sure how long masters are and all. I'd be looking to move out (of the country hopefully) at around 24. That's 7 years away though!


  • #57
    Sonnenblumen
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    dahooligan wrote:
    Inspired by the 'Whats the worst thing regarding...' thread, I'd just like to know what age I should be before I'm actually considered a grown up?

    Am I grown up when I turn 21, when I move out, when I buy my 1st house or when I have a kid?

    At the moment I think I'm a prime example of a non grown up person - I'm nearly 25, still living with the folks, I starve to death when they go away for more than a week. I've no savings, pay feck all bills, can't drive etc etc. I still fight with my family like I did when I was a kid ie. "I'm 24 and I can do what I want!!" :o

    But I'm still an adult..

    Thoughts?

    Seems to me you're more family pet member than being adult! No respect.


  • #58
    tbh
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    living at home with your parents: No problem
    Not paying any rent or board, while working: Sponge.


  • #59
    Zander Faint Racket
    Posts: 81,308 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Zander Faint Racket


    I'm 20, halfway through a 2-year msc, when I'm done with it I'll be moving out somewhere. Abroad, probably. So until then I'm just living at home since I'm sure going abroad will be enough of a leap :| I'll be 21-22 when I move out, then. Certainly living home any longer would drive me insane.
    I haven't been able to find a job this summer, but when I do work I most certainly help pay the bills a lot and throw in my fair share. As for cooking, I can cook something if it involves throwing it into boiling water and waiting :D


  • #60
    brown*eyed*girl
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    tbh wrote:
    living at home with your parents: No problem
    Not paying any rent or board, while working: Sponge.


    I agree, I got my first job when I was 15 stacking shelves and used to hand up a few IR£ to my Mam. Think I got around IR£30 a week if I was lucky and most weeks would give my Mam a tenner. She never asked me for it but I just felt it was nice to give her something back.

    I think I'm very responsible now and even though I've not made all the right choices I've always done my best in the circumstances but am very much young at heart and I'd say always will be.

    I moved out when I was 19 with my 2.5 year old daughter. She is 13 now and we've already had discussions about what will happen when she goes to college. She said she'll stay with me in our house but will pay her way. She gets that from me as I'm very independent.

    I think there is a big difference between been funloving and young at heart than being irresponsible and immature.

    On one hand I already have a savings account set up for my daughter's first car and this christmas's list sorted! yet I will go on Space Mountain 3 times in a row or still go to my Mammy's for dinner!


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  • #61
    tbh
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    brown*eyed*girl wrote:
    I agree, I got my first job when I was 15 stacking shelves and used to hand up a few IR£ to my Mam. Think I got around IR£30 a week if I was lucky and most weeks would give my Mam a tenner. She never asked me for it but I just felt it was nice to give her something back.

    I think I'm very responsible now and even though I've not made all the right choices I've always done my best in the circumstances but am very much young at heart and I'd say always will be.

    I moved out when I was 19 with my 2.5 year old daughter. She is 13 now and we've already had discussions about what will happen when she goes to college. She said she'll stay with me in our house but will pay her way. She gets that from me as I'm very independent.

    I think there is a big difference between been funloving and young at heart than being irresponsible and immature.

    On one hand I already have a savings account set up for my daughter's first car and this christmas's list sorted! yet I will go on Space Mountain 3 times in a row or still go to my Mammy's for dinner!

    respect, B*E*G. If I have a daughter, I hope she's like you :)


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