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Dermington · 02-07-2006 06:41PM

Mr.Nice Guy wrote:

On RTE, which is Irish television, Dunphy read out a piece from the Telegraph at the start of the tournament which proclaimed that it was their destiny to win and that God was English. Do you accept that's OTT?

Check and mate...

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F*ck it, we are not English so who cares what happens to their team.

Brian Capture · 02-07-2006 06:43PM

Depeche_Mode wrote:

Celtic v Rangers

Catholic v Protestant.

Responsible for many, many deaths in our country.

Not cool.

I'm not an England fan but the concept of supporting Manchester United and then celebrating an England defeat does not make sense. Does he abuse England / the English from his seat at Old Trafford?

Wertz · 02-07-2006 06:58PM

Brian Capture wrote:

I wonder was the same guy jumping for joy when London was bombed on 7 July last year?

Yeah of course he was....because we all know that f*cking football and senseless vilolence/loss of life/horrific injury are one and the same :rolleyes:

Cop on

Terry · 02-07-2006 07:16PM

Depeche_Mode wrote:

Do people not understand the concept of rivalry? Half the fun of sport is the "us and them" aspect of it. Why should we cheer on England because they are geographically closer to us than Portugal?

I really really like the English people, I loved living in London, it so much nicer than Dublin but every two years I cheer any the other team. The best games of football are those with intense rivalry: Liverpool v Man Utd, Celtic v Rangers, Barcelona v Madrid. It makes things interesting.

the pc brigade and the west brits don't understand this.
they want you to support england because the 'ra bombed the **** out of england in the 70's and 80's and we're all supposed to feel guilty about this and love our neighbours and support them in everything they do, even though most of us have never had any affiliation with the 'ra or supported their actions.
i'll enjoy watching them cry about losing and laugh as they make up the usual lame excuses.
why?
because they're our sporting rivals.

i wouldn't cheer on an english runner in the olympics, i have no interest in the commonwealth games and i don't cheer england on it the six nations. why should i support their soccer team?

Terry · 02-07-2006 07:18PM

Brian Capture wrote:

Catholic v Protestant.

Responsible for many, many deaths in our country.

Not cool.

yeah, but only if you're retarded enough to buy into that crap.
funnily enough, the average celtic/ rangers fan is.

Mossy Monk · 02-07-2006 07:21PM

Brian Capture wrote:

I wonder was the same guy jumping for joy when London was bombed on 7 July last year?

WTF has that got to do with this thread

Brian Capture · 02-07-2006 07:42PM

Mossy Monk wrote:

WTF has that got to do with this thread

London is in England. English people died in the bombings.

England football team is made up of English people. Primarily supported by English people.

If you hate England, their football team and their fans I can be forgiven for assuming that you won't shed any tears when innocent English civilians are blown to bits.

Dagnir Glaurung · 02-07-2006 07:44PM

No neighbouring countries support each other :rolleyes: It's just natural rivalry and is probably extended in our case because if we want to watch top class football we have to watch the British media so we're more sensitive to its hype.

Dagnir Glaurung · 02-07-2006 07:45PM

Brian Capture wrote:

London is in England. English people died in the bombings.

England football team is made up of English people. Primarily supported by English people.

If you hate England, their football team and their fans I can be forgiven for assuming that you won't shed any tears when innocent English civilians are blown to bits.

Do you also assume if one supports England then they automatically love British troops in Iraq? It's sport for god's sake.

iFight · 02-07-2006 08:03PM

julep wrote:

yeah, but only if you're retarded enough to buy into that crap.
funnily enough, the average celtic/ rangers fan is.

Exactly, why would any fan give a **** what religion the other is, I doubt many of these 'hardcore' fans actually practice their religion. Sure, in Edinburdh, I think there are two teams, Protestant and Caholic and they would be rivals without involving religious practice.

Mossy Monk · 02-07-2006 08:07PM

Brian Capture wrote:

London is in England. English people died in the bombings.

England football team is made up of English people. Primarily supported by English people.

If you hate England, their football team and their fans I can be forgiven for assuming that you won't shed any tears when innocent English civilians are blown to bits.

hating the English football team does not mean hating England

WhiteWashMan · 02-07-2006 08:09PM

Mr.Nice Guy wrote:

Yes they did but it was FORTY YEARS AGO. You don't think it's overkill?
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jaysus, the irish go on about some famine that happened a lot longer ago than that...

and as always, what is good for the goose, has no effect on the gander.

LovelyHurling · 02-07-2006 08:25PM

well the famine was kind of a big deal in fairness. Ray Houghtans goal on the other hand...

People down here as just as 'guilty' of going on about their sporting successes as England or anywhere in my opinion. The difference is you call it national pride and you call theirs arrogance

Hagar · 02-07-2006 09:08PM

As a Man Utd fan I reserve the right to support Man Utd players not on the England team.
Personally I think Christian Ronaldo scored a lovely penalty.

Some of the well supported Premiership players on the England team didn't do quite so well however.

As a Man Utd fan I would like to express my abhorrance of Rooney's thugish behaviour. I hope he never does it in a ManU shirt.

Brian Capture · 02-07-2006 09:40PM

Mossy Monk wrote:

hating the English football team does not mean hating England

Maybe not for you it doesn't.

But for the IRA, the Real IRA, their supporters and the guys who shout 'Up the RA' at Wolfe Tones concerts, hating the England football team is another extension of their overall hatred and loathing of England and all associated with it.

The less I have in common with people like that, the better.

Pompey Magnus · 02-07-2006 10:31PM

:rolleyes:

By that logic then I don't support England because many loyalists up North have their England jerseys on and were cheering them on against the papist Portuguese and the less I have in common with people like that the better.

Mossy Monk · 02-07-2006 10:34PM

most civilised people wouldnt want anything to do with those people either

LovelyHurling · 02-07-2006 10:35PM

Depeche_Mode wrote:

:rolleyes:

By that logic then I don't support England because many loyalists up North have their England jerseys on and were cheering them on against the papist Portuguese and the less I have in common with people like that the better.

Did they?? I dont doubt it if you say so, but would find that very surprising. Loyalist extremists dont have a habit of supporting England. Maybe its just the thugs but I dont know any Unionists who would own an England jersey. Most people in the south dont seem to understand that one thing that definitely unites Nationalist and Unionist Scumbags is their dislike of the England Football Team. Was it on the news?

mikemac · 02-07-2006 10:39PM

I remember cheering on England in Euro 96.

This ended when they played Germany. The usual tabloids trash started.
"We beat you in the war Fritz, we'll beat you again" et al

Wtf were English fans singing songs about WWII in Germany? I was almost hoping for a large-scale riot so England would be thrown out of the competition

Don't they know that the British royal familty is descended from Germans?

nlgbbbblth · 02-07-2006 10:53PM

Depeche_Mode wrote:

:rolleyes:

By that logic then I don't support England because many loyalists up North have their England jerseys on and were cheering them on against the papist Portuguese and the less I have in common with people like that the better.

I'm not an expert on this but I believe that most 'loyalists up North' tend to support Northern Ireland and do not shout for the England team.

Lovely Hurling or others living in that area might clarify?

LovelyHurling · 02-07-2006 10:59PM

nlgbbbblth wrote:

I'm not an expert on this but I believe that most 'loyalists up North' tend to support Northern Ireland and do not shout for the England team.

Lovely Hurling or others living in that area might clarify?

Yes Ive never seen a Unionist shout for England. The NI team does tend to be supported by Loyalist scum but every team has its scumbags, and NI has many normal supporters. the everyday NI supporters are usually peaceful Unionists and the everyday Rangers supporters are usually scumbags

thebaz · 02-07-2006 11:42PM

i suppose i'm a bit complex, i see myself as having Republican sympathies, but am in a minority that actually wanted England to win yesterday, nearly got in a row with some drunken gloater jumping for joy when Southgate missed his pen, years ago . I just think it is weird that we love English footy, and yet despise there National team .. beckham is a twat, but admire Rooney and Terry ... must be a bit of Irish in them

Pompey Magnus · 03-07-2006 11:49AM

LovelyHurling wrote:

Yes Ive never seen a Unionist shout for England. The NI team does tend to be supported by Loyalist scum but every team has its scumbags, and NI has many normal supporters. the everyday NI supporters are usually peaceful Unionists and the everyday Rangers supporters are usually scumbags

I live in Coleraine and have to walk down roads with blue, white and red kerbstones, union jacks off the lampposts and sometimes UVF or LVF flags to get into town and during the World Cup I see just as many England jerseys as Rangers and without doubt more in the town sport an England jersey than a NI one. I may be wrong but I doubt this is a phenomenon unique to Coleraine.

Terry · 03-07-2006 12:07PM

WhiteWashMan wrote:

jaysus, the irish go on about some famine that happened a lot longer ago than that...

and as always, what is good for the goose, has no effect on the gander.

1 million or so people dying unnecessarily versus winning the world cup.
i think there's a slight difference there.

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