fire brigade attack

thebaz · 27-06-2006 10:57PM #1

i just saw the headline in the Herald , another Fire Brigade attacked in Dublin.
I always wonder about the mentality of people who attack fire brigades, fire fighters , just doing there job, putting out fires. I can see why social misfits attack the Gardai, not condoning this but i can see the twisted logic , of having a go at those policing our society . But why firemen ? it is sick.

Morlar · 27-06-2006 11:09PM

I heard one news report where they called it something like 'blue light fever' - I dont get it at all either. I think the courts should treat it as being as serious as an assault on a guard - ie mandatory prison nothing suspended - straight to jail.

Eoin · 27-06-2006 11:31PM

thebaz wrote:

i just saw the headline in the Herald , another Fire Brigade attacked in Dublin.
I always wonder about the mentality of people who attack fire brigades, fire fighters , just doing there job, putting out fires. I can see why social misfits attack the Gardai, not condoning this but i can see the twisted logic , of having a go at those policing our society . But why firemen ? it is sick.

I know - I can't understand it for the life of me. What annoys me is that these firemen(women) are also EMTs, so for each one that has to take a day off work because of an attack, it means one less person available to staff an ambulance another night.

johnnyrotten · 27-06-2006 11:35PM

This a regular occurance. The recent attack on F/F Jonaton Forbes in which a bottle was thrown at him , resulting in over thirty striches to his face, has highlighted this again.
Its only a matter of time before someone dies because a Fire tender or ambulance is delayed because of these mindless attacks.

Ruu_Old · 27-06-2006 11:36PM

Hard to understand, at least you might see think someone attacking the gardai, because they want to "fight the power" but this is stupidity and senseless.

mike65 · 27-06-2006 11:38PM

You'd wonder about the way people live thier lives in the general sense to get a kick out of attacking life savers, I guess they are the sort who cut away lifebuoys and kill kittens for fun. People who have no moral compass as no-one taught them to be decent and no-one is going to put them straight.

Mike.

johnnyrotten · 27-06-2006 11:42PM

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Jonathon Forbes Shortly after attack

Mossy Monk · 27-06-2006 11:43PM

Morlar wrote:

I think the courts should treat it as being as serious as an assault on a guard

i already thought they did

not a bad idea though. these guys save peoples lives. what if the scum were caught in a house fire themselves

johnnyrotten · 27-06-2006 11:44PM

Mossy Monk wrote:

i already thought they did

not a bad idea though. these guys save peoples lives. what if the scum were caught in a house fire themselves

The other Scum are robbing the equipment from the lockers whilst the house fire is being fought

Eoin · 27-06-2006 11:44PM

Mossy Monk wrote:

i already thought they did

not a bad idea though. these guys save peoples lives. what if the scum were caught in a house fire themselves

Or even if they need an ambulance - as I said, all full time fire(wo)men in Dublin are also EMTs and will staff an ambulance as regularly as a fire truck.

civdef · 27-06-2006 11:44PM

One of the amendments being brought in with the Criminal Justice Bill at the moment is that an attack on Fire, Ambulance or hospital staff will be treated the same as an assault on a Garda.

mike65 · 27-06-2006 11:46PM

Pretty amazing that was'nt already the case.

Mike.

Ronan|Raven · 27-06-2006 11:47PM

"We showed him" to see the injuries to that man is so annoying. I really despair lately for irish society and the path we are going down.

WTF is wrong with these *****? ****ing scumbags is all they are. I showed some reports to my KIWI housemates and they cant believe it they always imagined Ireland to be lovely and tranquil. I had great fun explaining the skanger phenomen!

Sure there is violence here but you dont see people attacking Emergency vehicles. And oddly enough no merauding gangs of youths in a capital city on a saturday night.

johnnyrotten · 27-06-2006 11:47PM

Firefighter Jonathon Forbes after attack

Eoin · 27-06-2006 11:49PM

Ronan|Raven wrote:

Sure there is violence here but you dont see people attacking Emergency vehicles. And oddly enough no merauding gangs of youths in a capital city on a saturday night.

Actually, the one thing that spring sto my mind is that this probably is a much more regular threat & occurence to the nurses aand porters in A&E than the fire men and women in the city, but for some reason just doesn't get the same coverage.

thebaz · 27-06-2006 11:50PM

the amazing thing about these attacks , is that they usually occur in estates where the attackers themselves live. So you have some neighbours house or local facility , eg youth club , ablaze , the fire brigade come in to help preserve / save property or in some cases local lives ... and the local scum , respond by deciding to attack these ordinary working men and women , with bottles and stones , for only trying to help them . The intelligence.

Eoin · 27-06-2006 11:52PM

thebaz wrote:

the amazing thing about these attacks , is that they usually occur in estates where the attackers themselves live. So you have some neighbours house or local facility , eg youth club , ablaze , the fire brigade come in to help preserve / save property or in some cases local lives ... and the local scum , respond by deciding to attack these ordinary working men and women , with bottles and stones , for only trying to help them . The intelligence.

Although you are probably right, the recent attacks were started by prank calls - so it's not as if the scumbags "saw red" when they saw the fire truck: they purposely called out the fire trucks on a fake call.

johnnyrotten · 27-06-2006 11:53PM

his Helmet

ronbyrne2005 · 28-06-2006 12:01AM

johnnyrotten wrote:

his Helmet

are you his brother or something?

Eoin · 28-06-2006 12:03AM

johnnyrotten wrote:

Just trying to put accross how serious this problem is. Sorry If they offended you :eek:

I removed my post, if that offended you. I think everyone recognises the gravity of the situation though, so normal font sizes should suffice.

thebaz · 28-06-2006 12:06AM

eoin_s wrote:

Although you are probably right, the recent attacks were started by prank calls - so it's not as if the scumbags "saw red" when they saw the fire truck: they purposely called out the fire trucks on a fake call.

i did a few mad things when i was a kid , but never this level of stupid savagery .

Imagine the scene :-

Johnny -- cider swig --gulp -- "i've a great idea"
Tom -- inhale joint --- "whaa"
Johnny --- "lets call fire brigade and stone it with bottles and hopefully hurt these do-gooders"
Tom -- "great idea" --- more cider & joints ..

Of course these hard men only operate in packs of 20 at least , they're so hard they hate to fight with equal numbers

999 phone call

Fire brigade arrives

Stoning begins

Crew injured
Great night had by all local scumbags

in a word sad

johnnyrotten · 28-06-2006 12:08AM

eoin_s wrote:

I removed my post, if that offended you. I think everyone recognises the gravity of the situation though, so normal font sizes should suffice.

:rolleyes: Fonts are 1 to 7

RonByrne2005 wrote:

are you his brother or something?

In a way, yes

DonkeyStyle \o/ · 28-06-2006 12:17AM

Mind boggling.

FaithInHumanity = FaithInHumanity -1;

johnnyrotten · 28-06-2006 12:19AM

Another Firefighter was in court last week to see his attacker found guilty of assault. He was on ambulance duty when attacked. He ended up his a broken Cheekbone and was out of work for a long time. Sentencing is in two weeks

DemonOfTheFall · 28-06-2006 12:23AM

Maybe the sentence should be no emergency services for the scumbag's family for the rest of their lives ?

See if they're laughing when some other pikey has set their house on fire and they want help.

ando · 28-06-2006 08:33AM

i remember watching a program about the Scottish FB. They were called out, drove into a cull de sac and then were attacked with rocks and wood planks etc etc. Its sick, i cant get my head around why they do that to the FB. Im with the Aux fire service and last halloween we were very cautious about getting rocked when driving by bombfires etc in the fire engine

ionapaul · 28-06-2006 11:18AM

Awful stuff.

Any way we can legally swap our thousands of human parasites for a similar number of enterprising and law-abiding workers from China or India? Course if our 'disenfranchised youth' had to live in a society that did not include regular handouts of tax-payer money, they wouldn't survive very long, now would they?

Maybe we should spend more money on 'those society have left behind' to ensure these awful scenes (oh the humanity) are never revisited and all skangers become productive members of society, giving up their gold rings, chains, bracelets, knives, baseball caps and propensity for violence?

Dave! · 28-06-2006 12:28PM

DemonOfTheFall wrote:

Maybe the sentence should be no emergency services for the scumbag's family for the rest of their lives ?

See if they're laughing when some other pikey has set their house on fire and they want help.

Good idea

Plus, send the culprit to the gas chamber

BMH · 28-06-2006 12:35PM

Sterilisation of all skangers through the poisoning of all Burberry clothes.

Degsy · 28-06-2006 01:03PM

I know its not in the same league but i'm heartily sick of scumbags pelting busses with rocks too.In certain areas where i'm from,buses will not service certain roads because gangs of pups have been breaking windows by throwing rocks.Now,wheras it pisses me off mightily to have to walk to another bus stop it must be very much worse for the large number of elderly people in the are who are dependant on public transport.Anyway,what are these little scrotes achieving?They're not being gangsters or "fighting the power",they're pissing off ordinary,working class people.Vigilante-style beatings aren't far off methinks..

Morlar · 28-06-2006 02:06PM

I think they are trying to appear tough in front of their equally simpleton friends, that and looking for somone to pay them some attention. Its like watching an ape programme on discovery also reminds me of that scene from 2001 a space oddyssey where the apes are egging each other on and being brave in a big group. I hope the new legislation comes soon and they set a few examples - put cameras on the fire trucks and have the cops ready to back them up for future calls. I dont know why the cops dont go to the fire calls in any event to be honest - perhaps they should start attending those wherever they can or wherever they might expect hassle.

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