UKs youngest mother (11)

Tar.Aldarion · 12-05-2006 07:09PM

simu wrote:

ZOMG! It's the end of the world!

Is this a sign of the apocalypse?

DublinWriter · 12-05-2006 07:26PM

Tar.Aldarion wrote:

Is this a sign of the apocalypse?

WFT? I was 10 and was told 'the facts of life' and that Santa doesn't exist in the same year.

But did it affect me in the long term? *twitch* No.

Regarding the girl, for all those who say "ohhh, under-class background, breeding like scum etc", a friend of mine is a social worker in the south east of England and I remember a conversation I had with her about that previously mentioned girl of 12 in Sheffield who had a baby two years ago.

She told me that this happens a more often in middle-class families than working-class families, but middle-class parents have the resources and education to hush it up. The media in the UK can't report this kind of story regarding a minor without getting parental consent, and usually not without paying a substantial figure to the parents for it either.

On the whole it's more an indictment of the UK tabloid press than UK society.

ferdi · 12-05-2006 07:42PM

its hardly a new development in society, people have always loved a scandel

PrettyInPunk · 12-05-2006 08:09PM

Dudess wrote:

Man, that is depressing. And it happened on a night out. A night out? She's 11. That poster who blamed a lack of money presumably meant abject poverty. But promiscuous behaviour at a ridiculously young age isn't limited to poor areas by any means. Remember the Old Wes scandal? Clocking up as many snogs as you can manage a night has now been replaced by blowjobs. As if those girls actually want to do it...

i didnt mean that in a snobbish way its just from what ive seen and heard this happens quite a bit in areas of poverty the kids drop out of school etc etc.and fair enough it happens everywhere but lots of the time poor parents dont have enough funds to keep there kids in school and look after them properly and they end up running riot.

Dudess · 12-05-2006 08:41PM

Oh I know you didn't mean it in a snobbish way. It's just that some people might have misunderstood what you meant by lack of money. I think it's totally fair to link this issue with extreme poverty. I was talking to a sociology lecturer who has done a lot of research into the area and it seems that having a baby at a very young age is a rite of passage for young girls in underprivileged areas. It's kind of like they want to make something of their life but education, a profession etc are out of the question, so being a mother is a good role to aspire to. When my mate worked in Roches nursery department in the Ilac Centre, 10 and 11-year-old girls would constantly come up to her asking if they'd have such and such a buggy, pram etc in stock in four or five years' time for when they were starting families. It's naive and silly really, rather than being hard and jaded as these kids are so often depicted.

LEDGEND · 12-05-2006 08:42PM

I have just been reading about the issue of uks youngest mother and i know how difficult it can be to be a young parent,but people seem to be fixating on matters of class and creed which is trival in comparison to what motivated this eleven year old child to engage in sexual activites?what has prompted this,the abstinence of censorship and abudance of aggressive sexual violence and objectivity of women?these are the only so called female role models we have in this media driven society.what about male role models are they as objectively sexualised,which brings me to my point of motivating factors,what has motivated this young girl?and more importantly does this leave her more or less vunerable to predators??:mad:

drdre · 12-05-2006 09:09PM

in simple english.she was the slut that went and had sex with a bloke at that age.:rolleyes:

lawhec · 12-05-2006 10:03PM

fly_agaric wrote:

I'm no legal expert so take with a grain of salt, but...

The age of criminal responsibility in the UK is 10 or something isn't it, so I suppose he can be tried for a crime (here, rape - girl too young to give informed consent) if he is > than that age.

They are both below the age of consent (16 or so???).

15 vs 11 is a large age/development gap and the boy is to blame, but trying him for rape seems over the top IMO. Even if he is a card-carrying memeber of the patriarchal oppressor-class!;)

The age of criminal responsibility is 10 in England and Wales, and 8 in Scotland (where the girl is from).

Taken from Wikipedia on the age of consent...

In Scotland most sexual offences are contained in the Criminal Law (Consolidation) (Scotland) Act 1995 , which replaced the Sexual Offences (Scotland) Act 1976. For heterosexual acts the age of consent is 16, with increased penalties for offences involving girls under 13.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_consent_in_Europe

Victor · 13-05-2006 12:52AM

Tiesto wrote:

i still think there is potential.. Possibly push it to 10 years old...

I think there was a Peruvian mother of 5 years old.

http://www.sexualrecords.com/WSRprev.html#youngest_grandmother

PrettyInPunk · 13-05-2006 12:56AM

i dont understand how it is possible to be preggers at 5 that is disgusting!

NADA · 13-05-2006 01:24AM

PrettyInPunk wrote:

i dont understand how it is possible to be preggers at 5 that is disgusting!

Like it said in the article. Hormone disorders in the pituitary gland!

billy the squid · 13-05-2006 01:34AM

wonder how long it will take the dazzler to find their bebo pages.

The Real B-man · 13-05-2006 01:40AM

jsb wrote:

dear christ, so do we have to teach sex education in primary school now

Thats where i got my sex education its the norm nowadays to get it in 6th class

Suaimhneach · 13-05-2006 01:57AM

"I'm enjoying being pregnant - even though I get a bit of a sore back and sore ribs."

She's not even fully devolped enough to have the child. Such a shame...

Healio · 13-05-2006 02:08AM

Well you have to say fair play to the girl, getting ridden at eleven, i couldnt even spell sex back then

aidan_walsh · 13-05-2006 02:17AM

Well you have to say fair play to the girl, getting ridden at eleven

Please explain? Why is that something that should be celebrated?

DonkeyStyle \o/ · 13-05-2006 02:42AM

What ever happened to "eeeew, boys are yucky"

Bring back cooties, that'll solve the problem completely.

dbnavan · 13-05-2006 08:48AM

PrettyInPunk wrote:

i didnt mean that in a snobbish way its just from what ive seen and heard this happens quite a bit in areas of poverty the kids drop out of school etc etc.

So no pregnant teens in D.4 so? I'd check that up if I where you, find it hard to believe.

dbnavan · 13-05-2006 08:51AM

Healio wrote:

Well you have to say fair play to the girl, getting ridden at eleven, i couldnt even spell sex back then

At least he backed up his lack of intellegence.

Hydroquinone · 13-05-2006 10:16AM

PrettyInPunk wrote:

i dont understand how it is possible to be preggers at 5 that is disgusting!

The only thing that's disgusting about that is the man who raped a 5 year old. It's not like she'd know what the score is, now is it?

ronbyrne2005 · 13-05-2006 12:17PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lina_Medina

PrettyInPunk · 13-05-2006 05:04PM

dbnavan wrote:

So no pregnant teens in D.4 so? I'd check that up if I where you, find it hard to believe.

Did i say there was none love?or did i not just say there is a great deal MORE in underpriveleged areas?

Font22 · 13-05-2006 05:30PM

thats disgusting. it doesnt even bear thinking about

dbnavan · 13-05-2006 06:14PM

PrettyInPunk wrote:

Did i say there was none love?or did i not just say there is a great deal MORE in underpriveleged areas?

Your the one that raised the issue of underprivleged areas, and not trying to sound snobbish. Get you nose outta the air and come back down to reality love.

PrettyInPunk · 13-05-2006 06:16PM

r u stupid?what has what u just said got ANYthing to do with being snobby it s a known thing that young preganancys occur more often in underpriveleged areas.

aidan_walsh · 13-05-2006 06:21PM

PrettyInPink wrote:

r u stupid?

:rolleyes: tbh.

dbnavan · 13-05-2006 06:24PM

PrettyInPunk wrote:

r u stupid?what has what u just said got ANYthing to do with being snobby it s a known thing that young preganancys occur more often in underpriveleged areas.

You come on here, with your 37 posts to your name, contradict yourself, cant spell, and you call me stupid?

PrettyInPunk · 13-05-2006 06:31PM

how did i contradict myself? Oh and i didnt know Dyslexia was something i had to announce before i started posting sorry.

Bottle_of_Smoke · 13-05-2006 06:39PM

dbnavan wrote:

You come on here, with your 37 posts to your name, contradict yourself, cant spell, and you call me stupid?

Are you implying the more you post the smarter you are?

dbnavan · 13-05-2006 06:41PM

PrettyInPunk wrote:

how did i contradict myself?.

You dont want to sound snobbish, but most teen pregnancies occur in underprivlaged areas, that does sound sound snobbish, and you have no statisics to back it up.

UKs youngest mother (11)

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