where do students get their money?

Blut · 03-05-2006 12:55PM

I go out 3 nights a week and get hammered, I drive a relatively decent car, I dont own a single item of clothing worth less than 50e (well, not including socks and boxers). I rarely wake up before midday any day of the week. And I've never had a job in my life. I love being a student

spanner · 03-05-2006 12:55PM

i dont know who said college was easy and that students are always having the time of their lives.

I think college can be as depressing as been on the dole. Last year I was in college I was quite depressed. I fell behind in college, was unable to catch up, I wasnt getting much money from my parnets just the odd time when they had a few bob to spare. I feel very guilty. It is not an easy life constantly being broke and you need alot of self motivation to keep yourself going through college

Sleepy · 03-05-2006 12:57PM

I lived at home during college, worked virtually every different type of student job going, took out student loans and had a great time altogether. You get good at doing things on the cheap when you're in college. I remember in first year (1998 - 1999) myself and a mate had devised a means of going out for the night on a tenner...

Stephen · 03-05-2006 12:57PM

During my time in college, the only students that were receiving grants were those from farming families, where money is usually pretty scarce. I got by with a part time job throughout college and a little help from my parents, both of whom work full time.
Very few people in my class ever had jobs during the college term, then spent the year whining about having no money. :boggle:

Darth Ratz · 03-05-2006 01:10PM

Merrick wrote:

I've been looking for a part time job for a while, in the meantime I'm still lliving with mammy and daddy. I do have some friends though who live on tesco food and linden village and still manage to have a great time.

Ah linden village is a wonderous thing, and one cannot forget the joys of Kinsey vodka...that is if you can remember. College is going good, nearly finished first year, got a house with a few people in my course, only 600 a month for a 3 bedroom house. Have a part time job at the weekends, with the added joy of double time sundays. No grant or loan, but i still get a few quid of my parents, so I'm living comfortabally enough....despite the fact that you almost cant make out the colour of the floor its so mank.

Son Goku · 03-05-2006 01:18PM

chump wrote:

What he said.

Probably one of the biggest problems with them is that they don't update the applications.
If you got one the previous year you'll probably get one again.

Vulpiner · 03-05-2006 01:21PM

chump wrote:

You're worse than a free-loader (from parents) in that you're taking money from the State.

The grant system is a joke, why should you get a few hundred quid a month off the State and I shouldn't?

Because if I chose not to work and pay may own way with loans and the like, I'd be creaming money off my parents? - whereas you can choose not to work and not take out loans and not cream money off your parents and still get money?

Yea I'm jealous of people who get grants, because I don't see any reason why the majority of them do get them... except for clever accounting and pure skulduggery.

And of course the few from impoverished backgrounds who really need it.

Well, I dont know about that. My parents paid taxes. You contribute to the state with taxes and I get part of those taxes doing something thatll give me a job eventually, whereby Ill be contributing to the state with taxes in turn.

Would you rather I not go to college and still get state-benefits?

spanner · 03-05-2006 02:00PM

Stephen wrote:

During my time in college, the only students that were receiving grants were those from farming families, where money is usually pretty scarce. :boggle:

farming families can get it because they dont have to declare everything, The only reason why I got the grant was that my father was self employed.

If your parnets are PAYE workers your sunk altogether.

there have been some cases of an employers children getting the grant but his employees children did not get it

- bo - · 03-05-2006 02:07PM

i get a grant meself and it's bloody handy. i have a saturday job in which i get paid well below minimum wage so that doesn't go too far but is a help. some odd jobs i get during the week to go towards college expenses too. and of course the parents chip in a bit every now and again which is always welcome...

melekalikimaka · 03-05-2006 02:47PM

rugbug86 wrote:

i think the students that the OP is talking about are a minority, or BESS burds/Orts students. Do a proper course.

i agree arts is a waste of government money but bes isnt TOO bad. I get cash of my parents, tho i do little bits of work to get a bit extra when i have time. i go out huge amounts 4 nights a week id say average. just get drunk before hand, steal drinks and walk home

cooperguy · 03-05-2006 03:01PM

I work weekends and over the summer work full time to save up for the next college year. I get no money from my parents(and I dont want any) and I still live comfortably in college and go out about twice a week (apart from rag week when I go out every night

) Im having a great time in college and wouldnt change it even if I am always budgeting !!!

snickerpuss · 03-05-2006 03:28PM

melekalikimaka wrote:

i agree arts is a waste of government money but bes isnt TOO bad. I get cash of my parents, tho i do little bits of work to get a bit extra when i have time. i go out huge amounts 4 nights a week id say average. just get drunk before hand, steal drinks and walk home

You can't have education free but then decide whats useful and what isnt.
If nobody did arts there wouldn't be any secondary school teachers, where do you think they learnt their subjects?
Nice to see literature and languages being held in such high esteem by the way, not everything has to be about how much money you can make, the best jobs you can get. Not everyone wants to work in business.
Also quite a few members of the government did arts.

Sleepy · 03-05-2006 03:39PM

snickerpuss wrote:

Also quite a few members of the government did arts.

Not really the best advert for the course there snickerpuss. TBH, I think cabinet members should hold qualifications in whatever it is they're supposed to be in charge of but that's a different argument altogether...

melekalikimaka, I did a Commerce degree myself and tbh, I'd have been better off doing Arts. If ever there was a useless degree it's business.

WallysWorld · 03-05-2006 03:49PM

melekalikimaka wrote:

i go out huge amounts 4 nights a week id say average. just get drunk before hand, steal drinks and walk home

Seriously thats just wrong, what about the guy who has little money but saves it up so he dosnt act like pr!ck and steal other peoples drinks? then to have someone like you waltz up and steal it? this depresses me...:(

melekalikimaka · 03-05-2006 03:55PM

snickerpuss wrote:

, not everything has to be about how much money you can make, the best jobs you can get..

no not everything but generally college is

the whole year inn · 03-05-2006 04:01PM

The full grant is 5355 by the way, you can get a top up grant, I am getting it now but I willl be paying tax in a year or so,helps me out , I think some off you should lay off , lets us enjoy college,its exam time now so its not all roses, be thankfull you dont have to do exams.

James

snickerpuss · 03-05-2006 04:01PM

Ah i just think its sad that most people view literature and art and languages and that as useless.

ferdi · 03-05-2006 04:04PM

i live at home, i save heavily from summer and christmas jobs, get a bit off the folks on the odd occassion, i cycle instead of paying public transport or car, i avoid pub/club drink prices by dinking before i go out and carrying hidden drink into places. go out maybe once a week, maximum twice. i gererally watch the pennies and the pounds look after themselves.

spidermonkey · 03-05-2006 04:13PM

about two years ago, myself and my mates were out drinking and were pretty wasted, i just finished a pint, didn't feel too well, and went to throw up so i grabbed the pint glass i just finished and filled it back up, anyway as you do after getting sick i went and cleaned myself up. when i came back my friends told me that some guy had nicked the pint and they never bothered to tell him, so we left the place straight away, never found out how it turned out, an dont really care. he deserved it, the stealing ba$tard, moral of the story: dont steal drinks from me and my friends

ferdi · 03-05-2006 04:19PM

one night one of my (drunk) mates threw up in a pint glass.....my other (drunk) mate who didnt see promptly picked up the glass and started guzzling it down.
nice.

Tobias Greeshman · 03-05-2006 05:50PM

WallysWorld wrote:

Seriously thats just wrong, what about the guy who has little money but saves it up so he dosnt act like pr!ck and steal other peoples drinks? then to have someone like you waltz up and steal it? this depresses me...:(

And I'd say you're just a barrell of laughs out aren't ya? :rolleyes:

When I was in college, my parents never supported me and I was working part time at the weekend. I wasn't anyway in debt and had enough to enjoy myself going out at least once a week. Ah reading this thread makes me miss being a student (just a little now

).

projectmayhem · 03-05-2006 06:41PM

parents give me enough money to buy a few drinks every now and then (i don't go out every single weekend or anything... stick to cheap student nights!) but working/saving in the summer helps too

Mr_Roger_Bongos · 03-05-2006 07:36PM

This thursday night, go to the bus stop outside centra on d'olier street.
At 11.11pm the 161 will pull in.
Ask the bus driver "does it rain in may on picadilly circus?"
He will ask you for bus fare. Put €2.34 into the dropbox.Used only single cent coins and ask for a ticket to 'Tibradden' (South West Dublin)
Take the bus the whole way and when the driver says "Last stop Tibradden", get off the bus (don't go back to the depot with him)
Put on a purple jokers hat and light a cigarette, hold the lighter in your left hand.
At this point you will be kidnapped by the little people, from darbie o'gill and the little people. SAY NOTHING during the journey.
You will be thown out of a moving car. Remove your blindfold and go into the cottage in front of you.
Three old men will be playing texas hold em around a small table inside.
One of them will be Chris 'Jesus' Ferguson
The other will be Dave 'Devilfish Ulliott
Approch the 3rd man, and say "im a student, bring me to it"
He'll bring you down a staircase that seems to go on for miles. Down and down you go, musty air filling your nostrils more and more with each step down the staircase.
When you get to the bottom he'll take you back up in a lift. Wasn't that fun!
He'll take you into a room beside where the two men are left playing 'heads up texas hold em', and there you will
FIND THE PLACE WHERE ALL STUDENTS GET THEIR MONEY.

Don't tell him i sent you. Try and have a valid student card with you.

Kiith · 03-05-2006 07:50PM

Mr_Roger_Bongos wrote:

This thursday night, go to the bus stop outside centra on d'olier street.

At 11.11pm the 161 will pull in.

Ask the bus driver "does it rain in may on picadilly circus?"

He will ask you for bus fare. Put €2.34 into the dropbox.Used only single cent coins and ask for a ticket to 'Tibradden' (South West Dublin)

Take the bus the whole way and when the driver says "Last stop Tibradden", get off the bus (don't go back to the depot with him)

Put on a purple jokers hat and light a cigarette, hold the lighter in your left hand.

At this point you will be kidnapped by the little people, from darbie o'gill and the little people. SAY NOTHING during the journey.

You will be thown out of a moving car. Remove your blindfold and go into the cottage in front of you.

Three old men will be playing texas hold em around a small table inside.

One of them will be Chris 'Jesus' Ferguson

The other will be Dave 'Devilfish Ulliott

Approch the 3rd man, and say "im a student, bring me to it"

He'll bring you down a staircase that seems to go on for miles. Down and down you go, musty air filling your nostrils more and more with each step down the staircase.

When you get to the bottom he'll take you back up in a lift. Wasn't that fun!

He'll take you into a room beside where the two men are left playing 'heads up texas hold em', and there you will

FIND THE PLACE WHERE ALL STUDENTS GET THEIR MONEY.

Don't tell him i sent you. Try and have a valid student card with you.

that sounds like a regular night out to me

Ruu_Old · 03-05-2006 08:01PM

A lot of students I know have massive loans to pay off after college and spend years doing so, but yeah mammy and daddy pay for some others. I would a lot of students have a part time job to help out.

Time Magazine · 03-05-2006 08:04PM

rugbug86 wrote:

i think the students that the OP is talking about are a minority, or BESS burds/Orts students. Do a proper course.

Oh shut up. I'm doing BESS, I'll come out with a degree in pure economics. Are you saying it's not a proper course? I'd like to see you manage the maths of Econometrics and match it with the reams of writing of International Law/Economy of Ireland.

Personally, I'm doing something like a 70 hour week. That's how I get by. I get up at 7 or 8 (depending on the day and which lectures I have), get an hour's bus and get into town for 9am or 10am. I then go to lectures, with obvious breaks of lunch and the odd couple of hours off etc. If I'm in work (usually at 6pm) I leave college at 4pm and work until 10pm (or 11pm on Fridays). If I'm not in work I'll generally be studying until 10pm, maybe staying a bit later to do some essay etc. I get home at about 12, bed at 1am and up again at 7 or 8.

I work weekends, depending on the specific roster for the week. Generally I work about 15 hours a week and try get the odd Sunday shift for 20% overtime. This gives me about €110 a week. My mam's retired and as I'm 14 miles from college (the limit is 15) my grant sums to about €23 a week - I get no money from my parents. €17.50 of my grant goes on my weekly bus ticket. I spend €20 a month on phone credit. I spend about €50 a week on food (being in 9am-10pm lunch and dinner and occasionally breakfast is needed). The rest, usually about €40, leaves me with about 60c from each of my 70 hours for stuff like drink.

Moral of the story: BESS boys aren't wasters

.

Pherekydes · 03-05-2006 09:42PM

spanner wrote:

i dont know who said college was easy and that students are always having the time of their lives.

I think college can be as depressing as been on the dole. Last year I was in college I was quite depressed. I fell behind in college, was unable to catch up, I wasnt getting much money from my parnets just the odd time when they had a few bob to spare. I feel very guilty. It is not an easy life constantly being broke and you need alot of self motivation to keep yourself going through college

If you don't want to be in college, you shouldn't. Get a job instead.

As regards money, I get mine from the Govt. €297/wk. For doing absolutely nothing. Of course, I have to pay all my bills and run a large car on that, so very little socialising for me.

drunkdaz · 04-05-2006 12:39AM

I dont get everyones problem with somebodys parents paying for them. Should somebody young from a weathly background scrimp n save while their family sips champange??? A bit of a extreme example but you get my point. And yes my parents looked after me well while in was in Uni.
Also, even though i did CS and business, i wouldnt knock arts. Its a better education then you think. I think its a shame they way its underestimated, even by those who study it. I think it produces well rounded people, and anyway, very few course really prepare you for the workplace. Every job needs training. College is about education, not training.

kaimera · 04-05-2006 12:49AM

Myself, I did work every weekend for the first two years but my results started to suffer, especially after the christmas break when I was working constantly.

Thus for this year I've cut back majorly on work and stay in Limerick to study. Means very little money and at one stage I could get by on €40 a week incl. a €15 return bus ticket.

Grant is a load of balls. Mine was more than halved cos my brother started college and his is more than mine. ffs.

If I wasn't getting a grant, I couldn't afford college. So **** you to whoever thinks we shouldn't be getting a grant.

Not everyone is in a position to fork out for fees every year.

munkeehaven · 04-05-2006 01:20AM

Get money from my parents,i would get a job but my college hours are 9-6 so im exhausted and i always have ****loads of study to do (BioMed..the sacrifices I make for you!!!)

But I must admit this year has been more lazing around and going out..actually acting like a stereotypical student...

where do students get their money?

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