where do students get their money?

alienhead

anytime i'm out there seems to be loads of v well dressed students on the lock.

friend of mine lives in town, with students in the same building. the rent is quite expensive. she says that they're always wasted.

being one of the most expensive cities in the world........ where are they getting all this money?

part time jobs don't pay that much, except if you're a lap dancer or the like.

how much of a grant does your adverage student get?

Jonny Arson

Of students money...

Part-time jobs make up a percentage
Grants make up a percentage
Loans make up a percentage

but I'm in no doubt that the typical student who you mentioned is recieving most of their money from their parents.

Ag marbh

Alot of it's daddy

RotalicaV

Ag marbh wrote:

Alot of it's daddy

Bingo

SoupyNorman

I'm in my 3rd yr now. 10k in debt, get no money from parents, get no grant. Have worked like a dog every weekend!

Has it been worth it.......Probably!

Mimikyu

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RotalicaV

bravestarr082 wrote:

I'm in my 3rd yr now. 10k in debt, get no money from parents, get no grant. Have worked like a dog every weekend!

Has it been worth it.......Probably!

Then you probably aren't one of the people the op discribed, ie someone dressed fancy and going out every weekend getting wasted.

Its the likes of those twats that ruined the apartments in America.

I've well off student friends, they drive nicer cars than me, don't work mostly and go out at the weekends all the time.

SoupyNorman

RotalicaV wrote:

Then you probably aren't one of the people the op discribed, ie someone dressed fancy and going out every weekend getting wasted.

Its the likes of those twats that ruined the apartments in America.

I've well off student friends, they drive nicer cars than me, don't work mostly and go out at the weekends all the time.

Exactly....worst thing is they will also end up in a super job through 'contacts'. I'm going to California for the summer and I bet what those waste of space students did will affect my accomodation search.

KTRIC

Prostitution :eek:

chern0byl

bravestarr082 wrote:

I'm in my 3rd yr now. 10k in debt, get no money from parents, get no grant. Have worked like a dog every weekend!

Has it been worth it.......Probably!

Pretty much the same siuation here. Only 1K in debt at the moment but going for another loan very soon.

Tha Gopher

They can afford it by sticking to the student clubs. Few cheap cans before heading out, 2 or 3 euro per drink, fiver admission, and many of them live within walkng distance of town.

Also, the amount of drink robbing at student clubs is fcuking disgraceful. I despise student nightclubs, mainly because your drink will get robbed at least once, the place is full of rubbered country students with no idea how to behave in a nightclub as regards bumping into you, and the music is absoloutely appaling. 21 (and Spirit on a Thursday night to a slightly lesser extent) is the only decent midweek club in Dublin. Wednesdays/Thursdays there are usually suprrisingly good craic. Easy enough to pull and the music is great, alot more dance/rap and less of the cheese associated with most student clubs (Tramcos, how do you plead. That place needs its licence revoked).

Funnily enough, when 21 was called Coyote it was sh1te times sh1te. The new owners have really improved that place.

the whole year inn

i didnt take a loan out I just work part time and get the grant which is about 550 a month. Dont really borrow money off parents just during exams like now.I think its a part of student life to go out but i dont think I could afford Dublin , Galway is expensive but its not that bad.

Civilian_Target

All the well off students get their money from the bank of mammy and daddy, which offers flexible, interest-free repayment schemes.

spoofilyj

Well I'm a student in UCC going into final year. I am currently working for IBM on work exp in Dub. I dont get money from the parents and dont get a grant so I have always worked.
I have had a job in a bar since I was 15 so i'm fairly high up as bar tenders go so pay is ok. Every summer I got a better paying job during the week and worked in the bar weekends so earning enough money to get through the rest of the year quite comfortably.
Students who are always wasted ruin it for the rest of us. I like to go out and have a drink as much as the next person but can only do it when I have time and can afford to. Its not that expensive to drink and be wasted as cheap beer is fairly accessable in offies and Lidil and the like so these people would not have to be that well off. As regards the rent thats a different matter and must be from the parents.
On another point If these students are wasted all the time they probably will not pass their exams...
Just my 2 cents worth...

chump

I know of quite a few punters who get literally every penny from the parents, inlcuding top accomadation in dublin, fees for courses, and a decent lifestyle.

I also know quite a few who work 20+ hours a week, scrape by, but still manage to have a good time.

I don't think there's any rules.

There's also people who can get by on loans, odd jobs, and a solid summer of work.

phantom_lord

alienhead wrote:

anytime i'm out there seems to be loads of v well dressed students on the lock.

They'd be the "get the money off daddy crowd"

The full grant is three grand, which is what I survive on for the year...that and some poker winnings and a small job.

Crucifix

Lidl

my mates rob drink when they run out of money
i think its disgraceful if some girl robbed my drink on a night out i'd freak :mad:

Ag marbh

Crucifix wrote:

Lidl

Whats this now? They all work in lidl? buy beer in lidl? steal money from lidl? buy clothes from the white thomas section in lidl?

Crucifix

Ag marbh wrote:

Whats this now? They all work in lidl? buy beer in lidl? steal money for lidl? buy clothes from the white thomas section in lidl?

Sorry, I just couldn't resist making a four letter post.
Buying everything in Lidl seems to be the way to survive.

Ag marbh

Crucifix wrote:

Sorry, I just couldn't resist making a four letter post.
Buying everything in Lidl seems to be the way to survive.

Thats what George Best thought...

rugbug86

im in 2nd year and work one day a week and manage to live off that.

it means only being able to go out once every few weeks, but i still manage to have fun as a student.

i think the students that the OP is talking about are a minority, or BESS burds/Orts students. Do a proper course.

Hermione*

Up until final year, I worked part-time and received minimal allowance from my parents, since with two working parents there's no chance of qualifying for a grant.

This year, admittedly, my parents are paying for everything, given my need for good grades to get into a masters programme. Then again, my rent is only €380/ month and I wouldn't really spend that much on drink. Sure, I go out, but I don't really get drunk. My parents saved lots when I was little to have money to send their children to college, so I'm very lucky. Having said that, I do have debt cos I just can't ask my parents for every single thing I need.

Vulpiner

Not every student is a free-loader. Ive gotten by on the grant and summer work. I rarely drink as well which probably helps.

As for help from parent, Ive never asked for it.

rainbow kirby

I live at home, I work part time, about 18 hours a week - that pays my fees and all living expenses (technically, I'm a repeater - so paying 2/3 fees this year). I've been in the same job for 3 years. I haven't asked my parents for money since my first year registration - which I couldn't pay because I only got a job the week before the start of term. I've never been eligible for a grant either.

Work friday night saturday and sunday during the day!Im kinda like those people you described!Although i work for all my money.i get 210euro a week from work and spend 160 euro!Although my parents are paying the rent!

Right_Side

rugbug86 wrote:

i think the students that the OP is talking about are a minority, or BESS burds/Orts students. Do a proper course.

What would be a "proper course" then? :rolleyes:

chump

Vulpiner wrote:

Not every student is a free-loader. Ive gotten by on the grant and summer work.
As for help from parent, Ive never asked for it.

You're worse than a free-loader (from parents) in that you're taking money from the State.

The grant system is a joke, why should you get a few hundred quid a month off the State and I shouldn't?

Because if I chose not to work and pay may own way with loans and the like, I'd be creaming money off my parents? - whereas you can choose not to work and not take out loans and not cream money off your parents and still get money?

Yea I'm jealous of people who get grants, because I don't see any reason why the majority of them do get them... except for clever accounting and pure skulduggery.

And of course the few from impoverished backgrounds who really need it.

Right_Side

chump wrote:

Yea I'm jealous of people who get grants, because I don't see any reason why the majority of them do get them... except for clever accounting and pure skulduggery.

Let me assure you the majority of students are not on grants.

Merrick

I've been looking for a part time job for a while, in the meantime I'm still lliving with mammy and daddy. I do have some friends though who live on tesco food and linden village and still manage to have a great time.

Hermione*

Most students I know, regardless of their circumstances, don't get a grant.

Blut

I go out 3 nights a week and get hammered, I drive a relatively decent car, I dont own a single item of clothing worth less than 50e (well, not including socks and boxers). I rarely wake up before midday any day of the week. And I've never had a job in my life. I love being a student

spanner

i dont know who said college was easy and that students are always having the time of their lives.

I think college can be as depressing as been on the dole. Last year I was in college I was quite depressed. I fell behind in college, was unable to catch up, I wasnt getting much money from my parnets just the odd time when they had a few bob to spare. I feel very guilty. It is not an easy life constantly being broke and you need alot of self motivation to keep yourself going through college

Sleepy

I lived at home during college, worked virtually every different type of student job going, took out student loans and had a great time altogether. You get good at doing things on the cheap when you're in college. I remember in first year (1998 - 1999) myself and a mate had devised a means of going out for the night on a tenner...

Stephen

During my time in college, the only students that were receiving grants were those from farming families, where money is usually pretty scarce. I got by with a part time job throughout college and a little help from my parents, both of whom work full time.
Very few people in my class ever had jobs during the college term, then spent the year whining about having no money. :boggle:

Darth Ratz

Merrick wrote:

I've been looking for a part time job for a while, in the meantime I'm still lliving with mammy and daddy. I do have some friends though who live on tesco food and linden village and still manage to have a great time.

Ah linden village is a wonderous thing, and one cannot forget the joys of Kinsey vodka...that is if you can remember. College is going good, nearly finished first year, got a house with a few people in my course, only 600 a month for a 3 bedroom house. Have a part time job at the weekends, with the added joy of double time sundays. No grant or loan, but i still get a few quid of my parents, so I'm living comfortabally enough....despite the fact that you almost cant make out the colour of the floor its so mank.

Son Goku

chump wrote:

What he said.

Probably one of the biggest problems with them is that they don't update the applications.
If you got one the previous year you'll probably get one again.

Vulpiner

chump wrote:

You're worse than a free-loader (from parents) in that you're taking money from the State.

The grant system is a joke, why should you get a few hundred quid a month off the State and I shouldn't?

Because if I chose not to work and pay may own way with loans and the like, I'd be creaming money off my parents? - whereas you can choose not to work and not take out loans and not cream money off your parents and still get money?

Yea I'm jealous of people who get grants, because I don't see any reason why the majority of them do get them... except for clever accounting and pure skulduggery.

And of course the few from impoverished backgrounds who really need it.

Well, I dont know about that. My parents paid taxes. You contribute to the state with taxes and I get part of those taxes doing something thatll give me a job eventually, whereby Ill be contributing to the state with taxes in turn.

Would you rather I not go to college and still get state-benefits?

spanner

Stephen wrote:

During my time in college, the only students that were receiving grants were those from farming families, where money is usually pretty scarce. :boggle:

farming families can get it because they dont have to declare everything, The only reason why I got the grant was that my father was self employed.

If your parnets are PAYE workers your sunk altogether.

there have been some cases of an employers children getting the grant but his employees children did not get it

- bo -

i get a grant meself and it's bloody handy. i have a saturday job in which i get paid well below minimum wage so that doesn't go too far but is a help. some odd jobs i get during the week to go towards college expenses too. and of course the parents chip in a bit every now and again which is always welcome...

melekalikimaka

rugbug86 wrote:

i think the students that the OP is talking about are a minority, or BESS burds/Orts students. Do a proper course.

i agree arts is a waste of government money but bes isnt TOO bad. I get cash of my parents, tho i do little bits of work to get a bit extra when i have time. i go out huge amounts 4 nights a week id say average. just get drunk before hand, steal drinks and walk home

cooperguy

I work weekends and over the summer work full time to save up for the next college year. I get no money from my parents(and I dont want any) and I still live comfortably in college and go out about twice a week (apart from rag week when I go out every night ) Im having a great time in college and wouldnt change it even if I am always budgeting !!!

snickerpuss

melekalikimaka wrote:

i agree arts is a waste of government money but bes isnt TOO bad. I get cash of my parents, tho i do little bits of work to get a bit extra when i have time. i go out huge amounts 4 nights a week id say average. just get drunk before hand, steal drinks and walk home

You can't have education free but then decide whats useful and what isnt.
If nobody did arts there wouldn't be any secondary school teachers, where do you think they learnt their subjects?
Nice to see literature and languages being held in such high esteem by the way, not everything has to be about how much money you can make, the best jobs you can get. Not everyone wants to work in business.
Also quite a few members of the government did arts.

Sleepy

snickerpuss wrote:

Also quite a few members of the government did arts.

Not really the best advert for the course there snickerpuss. TBH, I think cabinet members should hold qualifications in whatever it is they're supposed to be in charge of but that's a different argument altogether...

melekalikimaka, I did a Commerce degree myself and tbh, I'd have been better off doing Arts. If ever there was a useless degree it's business.

WallysWorld

melekalikimaka wrote:

i go out huge amounts 4 nights a week id say average. just get drunk before hand, steal drinks and walk home

Seriously thats just wrong, what about the guy who has little money but saves it up so he dosnt act like pr!ck and steal other peoples drinks? then to have someone like you waltz up and steal it? this depresses me...:(

melekalikimaka

snickerpuss wrote:

, not everything has to be about how much money you can make, the best jobs you can get..

no not everything but generally college is

the whole year inn

The full grant is 5355 by the way, you can get a top up grant, I am getting it now but I willl be paying tax in a year or so,helps me out , I think some off you should lay off , lets us enjoy college,its exam time now so its not all roses, be thankfull you dont have to do exams.

James

snickerpuss

Ah i just think its sad that most people view literature and art and languages and that as useless.

ferdi

i live at home, i save heavily from summer and christmas jobs, get a bit off the folks on the odd occassion, i cycle instead of paying public transport or car, i avoid pub/club drink prices by dinking before i go out and carrying hidden drink into places. go out maybe once a week, maximum twice. i gererally watch the pennies and the pounds look after themselves.

spidermonkey

about two years ago, myself and my mates were out drinking and were pretty wasted, i just finished a pint, didn't feel too well, and went to throw up so i grabbed the pint glass i just finished and filled it back up, anyway as you do after getting sick i went and cleaned myself up. when i came back my friends told me that some guy had nicked the pint and they never bothered to tell him, so we left the place straight away, never found out how it turned out, an dont really care. he deserved it, the stealing ba$tard, moral of the story: dont steal drinks from me and my friends

ferdi

one night one of my (drunk) mates threw up in a pint glass.....my other (drunk) mate who didnt see promptly picked up the glass and started guzzling it down.
nice.