The census-Dogy filling out

blueshirt · 25-04-2006 12:48AM

CuLT wrote:

My folks fill mine out every time; I had a read over it and they put me down as fecking Roman Catholic again, so after a "you are Catholic" "I am in my arse Catholic" to-and-fro it was scribbled out.

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You may not regard yourself as a catholic, and that’s your business. But in parts of Belfast, murderous, half human “loyalist” thugs would still kill you because to them you will always be a catholic.

ferdi · 25-04-2006 01:22AM

blueshirt wrote:

You may not regard yourself as a catholic, and that’s your business. But in parts of Belfast, murderous, half human “loyalist” thugs would still kill you because to them you will always be a catholic.

what was that comment in aid of? who gives a **** what a load of retarded goons do?

legologic · 25-04-2006 09:49AM

blu_sonic wrote:

but there aren't any behaviour question, so the Gov would be generalising

That's kinda the point of statistics! no?

Pythia · 25-04-2006 11:51AM

blueshirt wrote:

You may not regard yourself as a catholic, and that’s your business. But in parts of Belfast, murderous, half human “loyalist” thugs would still kill you because to them you will always be a catholic.

The republicans are just as bad.

lodgepole · 25-04-2006 12:02PM

Two people in my house lied about the Irish thing. I had a go at them on the basis that it's important for the country to know how many people can actually speak the language.

simu wrote:

I'm Catholic apparently - my father filled the forms in. Well, technically, it's true as I've never been debaptised. o_O

You don't need to be debaptised. When I was sixteen I asked a priest what you would have to do to leave the Catholic Church in an official sense and he told me that by telling him of my intention I had done it.

Tha Gopher · 25-04-2006 12:04PM

Am I the only one who thinks all this wah wah im not a catholic, im writin jedi, fcuk the government theyre not finding out what race i am nonsense is fcuking sad? I dont go to mass, doubt Ive been to one since our end of school mass bar subsequent christenings of relatives, but fcuk sake is it such a big deal? I know muslims who drink, do drugs, dont go to the mosque often, but they and everyone else would still consider most of them muslims, and Im sure they nearly all ticked the Islam box on the form. Im not religious, but like most people I was baptised, so its ridicilous thinking Im cool by ticking Agnostic/Athiest or whatever.

Also, despite 12 years of enduring it in school Im foolin nobody, a big tick in the No box for Irish fluency

Dave! · 25-04-2006 12:05PM

My family is supposedly Roman Catholic also... My dad filled out the form.

Gonna be pretty inaccurate results.

Tha Gopher wrote:

Am I the only one who thinks all this wah wah im not a catholic, im writin jedi, fcuk the government theyre not finding out what race i am nonsense is fcuking sad? I dont go to mass, doubt Ive been to one since our end of school mass bar subsequent christenings of relatives, but fcuk sake is it such a big deal? I know muslims who drink, do drugs, dont go to the mosque often, but they and everyone else would still consider most of them muslims, and Im sure they nearly all ticked the Islam box on the form. Im not religious, but like most people I was baptised, so its ridicilous thinking Im cool by ticking Agnostic/Athiest or whatever.

What the f*ck? Is it "such a big deal" to NOT be Catholic? Your Muslim friends consider themselves as such, good for them; if someone doesn't consider themselves Muslim, they should just jot it down anyway? What are you on? It'll be a statistically corrupt census if everyone does that.

Attol · 25-04-2006 12:09PM

Does it matter if you're living in the country and aren't on the census thingy? I haven't got an address atm so haven't been on any census forms.

lodgepole · 25-04-2006 12:10PM

Tha Gopher wrote:

Am I the only one who thinks all this wah wah im not a catholic, im writin jedi, fcuk the government theyre not finding out what race i am nonsense is fcuking sad? I dont go to mass, doubt Ive been to one since our end of school mass bar subsequent christenings of relatives, but fcuk sake is it such a big deal?

Absolutely, I know plenty of Roman Catholics who don't attend mass regularly but they are still Roman Catholics. However, it's important for people who don't have a religion to be able to record that and for the country to acknowledge it.

The bottom line is that there will be more recorded Roman Catholics and Irish speakers on the census than actually exist in Ireland today, and that makes it inaccurate.

Putting Jedi or Chuck Norris on the census form is ludicrous, it completely devalues the document.

thelordofcheese · 25-04-2006 12:24PM

The census is going to be innacurate anyway, for example, one question was when was the house built. Seeing as we are renting the place, we have no bloody idea, and neither did the landlord.
So we guessed.

it's just the nature of things, certain types of information won't be available or will be unknown, and i'm sure the CSO have a margin of error to compensate for that, likewise the whole irish thing [i put down yes, but said i done it 'less often' which is true, i can speak irish, but it only used on the rare occasion]

legologic · 25-04-2006 12:33PM

LadyLotts wrote:

Does it matter if you're living in the country and aren't on the census thingy? I haven't got an address atm so haven't been on any census forms.

I think technically you we're supposed to be put down on the form in the house you we're in at the time it was supposed to be filled out. Even if you don't live there like. Thats what i've been told. I was over in a friends at the time but I was put down at home anyway.

gurramok · 25-04-2006 08:17PM

I haven't put down on any either like LadyLotts, guess the population statistic will be out by 2 anyway when they count it up

parsi · 25-04-2006 08:25PM

ferdi wrote:

i have left the 'race' and 'religion' sections blank on my census form as i think these factors should be irrelevant if we are to progress.

Should leave out the sex question as well and we'd be saved the old "women make up 98% of the population but have only 1.4% of the top jobs" kind of stuff. Or indeed why not leave the pc and internet questions blank as well c'os then eircom could say hey there aren't any pcs in the country so why are we supplying broadband...

Fraggle Rocks · 25-04-2006 08:33PM

We only got our Census form today

Gurgle · 25-04-2006 08:47PM

thelordofcheese wrote:

The census is going to be innacurate anyway, for example, one question was when was the house built. Seeing as we are renting the place, we have no bloody idea, and neither did the landlord.
So we guessed.

Your guess contains more information than 'dunno'.
Sets a ballpark.

As for religion - writing 'Jedi' or 'Chuck Norris' makes it clear that not only do you not have a religion but you consider the whole idea ludicrous. Same as voting for the monster raving loony party in the UK.

Victor · 25-04-2006 11:28PM

LadyLotts wrote:

Does it matter if you're living in the country and aren't on the census thingy? I haven't got an address atm so haven't been on any census forms.

Its where you spent Sunday night (or arrived Monday morning) that matters.

Attol · 25-04-2006 11:42PM

Nope, wasn't put down on that one. I don't exist.

Victor · 26-04-2006 12:33AM

Ask! Or talk to the CSO and get a form.

Even hotels and prisons are meant to fill these out.

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