Pete Drugerty

thebaz · 21-04-2006 11:35AM

surely the cops have bigger fish to catch than Doherty - at the end of the day the only one he is hurting is himself - let him smoke his crack if thats what he chooses and wants to die - i wouldn't waste my time trying to arrest him - i'm sure theres lots worse , doing lots of harm to others in london , than a meak junkie like doherty.

Degsy · 21-04-2006 11:36AM

casanova_kid wrote:

Pete Doherty is a hero, living the rock and roll life that all you boring people wanmt to live. It's written in the rock and roll scriptures that Pete Doherty will die to save music. LEGEND.

:rolleyes:
I'd just LOVE to live that rock n roll life,being in pissant band going nowhere and constantly getting busted for small amounts of drugs.Keith Richards eat your heart out!

Atlas_IRL · 21-04-2006 11:57AM

he lives in a squalor(sp) and has no money and goes on drug binges for up to 3-4 days, but i suppose its what zepplin and the others all done when they were starting out

Still think he's a waster though

Táck · 21-04-2006 12:43PM

whats the KLF theory?

I can remember the Rave group from the 90's

joe_chicken · 21-04-2006 12:47PM

T&#225 wrote: »

whats the KLF theory?

I can remember the Rave group from the 90's

Basically that the KLF invented The Libertines as a stunt to prove how shallow and meaningless the pop industry is...

It sounded so true... alas it was only a dream

Wertz · 21-04-2006 12:49PM

What I can't understand about both Doherty and the UK legal system is how in the name of f*ck the guy keeps getting off in court.
He's been up now, what...4 times already? In a lot of cases he's been arrested the same day as his other court case/probation report/slap on the wrist session, each time arrested in posession of class A drugs, and in one case, joyriding with two scot teenagers (!?)...the guy shows no remorse outside of when he's not sat in front of a judge.

So what, you may ask? Well here's so what; like it or nott the guy is looked up to by fans and has become something of a cult hero...the clear message being sent out to fans and society in general is that doing crack and smack is cool, and it's fine 'cos you can get away with it by just saying sorry to the judge...then walk out of court of go get sh*t-faced again.

I'm not anti-drugs, I've done my fairshare, but what we're dealing with here is someone who is glorifying the use of some very dangerous substances and doing so with seeming impunity...you have to wonder why such a high profile user isn't made a prime example of by being landed in chokey for a few months where he can really kick the habit instead of his record company promising he will.
I could care less about him or his music...I've liked a few of the congs I've heard, but not my kind of thing...the issue here isn't his music, it's what he puts out to the youth of the UK and Ireland, that you can screw your life up merrily and walk away scot free simply 'cos you happen to be famous.

Táck · 21-04-2006 01:20PM

joe_chicken wrote:

Basically that the KLF invented The Libertines as a stunt to prove how shallow and meaningless the pop industry is...

It sounded so true... alas it was only a dream

so the theory was that a band was created to to prove how shallow and meaningless the pop industry is but in actual fact they were a real band, who were actually decent?

Ardent · 21-04-2006 02:40PM

Liver Lips wrote:

B0llox to that...this celebrity worship/fascination has gone far enough we should round them all up with a simpsons style mob , Paris Hilton, Robbie Williams, David Beckham, any one of reality TV, FCUKING LOUIS WALSH, simon cowell, any other media whores we can find and slaughter them like pigs and bathe in their blood and then declare it a world wide festival so future generations know not to make the same mistake again......its time we held important people up as icons for future generations...doctors, scientists, aid works, peace keepers ordinary people who achieve things that matter..............up the revolution!!

Well said that man!!

padi89 · 21-04-2006 02:42PM

All his followers are the under 18 NME kids ! Nuff said!

rubadub · 21-04-2006 02:50PM

Degsy wrote:

He's NOT Jimi Hendrix or Ray Charles,he's a talentless,attention seeking little dickhead.

If the internet was around in the 60's I bet there would be threads just like this about hendrix, lennon, morrison etc being pathetic dickheads. Many people do not like their music too, many also do.

As for glorifying drugs, and publicity stunts, you only hear about him in the gutter press, stop reading that crap if you don't want to know. In the 60's the same rags had pics of the stones going in and out of drug trials all the time too, many hate their music too.

Jamey · 21-04-2006 02:50PM

It's ridiculous bitching about how all you see is Pete when you open up your papers everyday. When your buying **** like the Sun and the Star what do you expect? That's what they do, expose famous people'es problems, and ridicule them, etc. Doherty is a genius imo. He has brought something to the music industry that no one had ever done before. Just for anyone who thinks he's a '****in dickhead' or whatever, go and watch the Newsnight special that was done on him, you might change your mind then.

Siogfinsceal · 21-04-2006 02:57PM

rubadub wrote:

If the internet was around in the 60's I bet there would be threads just like this about hendrix, lennon, morrison etc being pathetic dickheads. Many people do not like their music too, many also do.

As for glorifying drugs, and publicity stunts, you only hear about him in the gutter press, stop reading that crap if you don't want to know. In the 60's the same rags had pics of the stones going in and out of drug trials all the time too, many hate their music too.

well said

kkposse · 21-04-2006 02:58PM

I don't think MTV cribs will be calling to his gaff any time soon anyways!!!:D

Amazotheamazing · 21-04-2006 03:14PM

I'm all for talented musicians doing as much drugs as they like but the point is musicians like Lennon and Hendrix were famous for their music, everybody still knows one or two of their songs 35 years on. Doherty just isn't as good, I saw him in Cork and tbh he was little better than a pub band. The songs just sound so unfinished, meandering, and frankly far too poppy to be rock. Nothing wrong with pop, but nothing new there either.

rubadub · 21-04-2006 03:29PM

Amazotheamazing wrote:

the point is musicians like Lennon and Hendrix were famous for their music,

And for their drug intake. The gutter press rags in the 60's weren't reviewing their albums, it showed them going in and out of court just like doherty. The music press focused mainly on their music, again just like doherty.

Amazotheamazing wrote:

everybody still knows one or two of their songs 35 years on.

I'm sure many were saying the same thing about hendrix when he was around, saying chuck berry's (or whoever) songs were known many years on.

Amazotheamazing wrote:

I saw him in Cork and tbh he was little better than a pub band.

I bet many people at woodstock were put off hendrix too. Lennon also made some appalling stuff.

Mossy Monk · 21-04-2006 03:30PM

Liver Lips wrote:

B0llox to that...this celebrity worship/fascination has gone far enough we should round them all up with a simpsons style mob , Paris Hilton, Robbie Williams, David Beckham, any one of reality TV, FCUKING LOUIS WALSH, simon cowell, any other media whores we can find and slaughter them like pigs and bathe in their blood and then declare it a world wide festival so future generations know not to make the same mistake again......its time we held important people up as icons for future generations...doctors, scientists, aid works, peace keepers ordinary people who achieve things that matter..............up the revolution!!

why not just get rid of all the assholes who feed this celebrity craze by buying the heat magazines and so on. without those people the addiction to the world of celebrity would be non existant. you have ***** like this Chantelle person on the airwaves for doing sweet **** all, and why? because idiots lap it up

LegacyUser · 21-04-2006 03:47PM

he's a spa

rubadub · 21-04-2006 04:00PM

stp wrote:

he's a spa

he has cerebral palsy? read that in the sun did you?

Degsy · 21-04-2006 04:19PM

Jamey wrote:

It's ridiculous bitching about how all you see is Pete when you open up your papers everyday. When your buying **** like the Sun and the Star what do you expect? That's what they do, expose famous people'es problems, and ridicule them, etc. Doherty is a genius imo. He has brought something to the music industry that no one had ever done before. Just for anyone who thinks he's a '****in dickhead' or whatever, go and watch the Newsnight special that was done on him, you might change your mind then.

I did watch the newsnight special on him and i think he's a bigger dickhead now than i did before.He's a talentless knob and evrything he does is for show.how anybody can think somebody who's addicted to heroin at 24 is a "genius" is beyond me.I suppose people are getting easier to impress.

Wertz · 21-04-2006 04:23PM

rubadub wrote:

As for glorifying drugs, and publicity stunts, you only hear about him in the gutter press, stop reading that crap if you don't want to know. In the 60's the same rags had pics of the stones going in and out of drug trials all the time too, many hate their music too.

Well I for one don't read, nor wipe my arse with the tabloids...any news I get is on the radio or the web, and usually the Doherty stories are in the UK headlines on the BBCi pages and on all of their news broadcasts...and it's usually for the very reason that the guy has just wandered out of court and re-offended whilst on a bloody probation report and so-called counselling!! I mean what the hell?
I still say this sends the wrong message to fans and the public in general...maybe the police are focusing on him for some reason and if they are it's backfiring, because the guy is making a mockery of the justice system.
If he's that talented then coming off crack should present him with a sh*tload of new material and maybe gain him a little more credibility...

It's got nothing to do with his music for me; like I say I liked some of the stuff he did with both the Libertines and Babyshambles...it's about the message he sends which is a dangerous one IMO.

Sajan · 21-04-2006 04:27PM

He's a genius in the same right that Shane McGowan is a genius. In other words he isn't. Just because they walk around getting B*****ed and talking crap people think they are genius'. You should go walk around Stephen's green some evening. Genius' everywhere.

He went to Oxford university for English. Obviously has a talent with words. But A genius... EMM Dont think so. NME call him a genius so idiots read there sub-standard magazine to see what he does next. It was NME that was talkking about Peter Doherty well before And of the Rags..

Beastieboy · 21-04-2006 04:34PM

This thread is a load of sh!t. So much hatred for one person, has no one got anything better/positive to talk about. I mean get the fcuk over it, i think alot of people just jump on this band wagon of hating him cause its only the darker side of his existence that makes it into the tabloids, alot of people have probably never listened to the music.

I read a number of posts that went along the lines of 'he's drug addict scum should be in jail' a few people hoped that he would die, pretty patetic opinions. What is wrong with drug use if it only affects the user, each to there own.

I would suggest that some people need to cop on and get a life because they have an unnatural negative interest in a total strangers life.

FX Meister · 21-04-2006 04:41PM

How many Pete Doherty's does it take to change a light bulb in rehab?

Jamey · 21-04-2006 04:42PM

Beastieboy wrote:

This thread is a load of sh!t. So much hatred for one person, has no one got anything better/positive to talk about. I mean get the fcuk over it, i think alot of people just jump on this band wagon of hating him cause its only the darker side of his existence that makes it into the tabloids, alot of people have probably never listened to the music.

I read a number of posts that went along the lines of 'he's drug addict scum should be in jail' a few people hoped that he would die, pretty patetic opinions. What is wrong with drug use if it only affects the user, each to there own.

I would suggest that some people need to cop on and get a life because they have an unnatural negative interest in a total strangers life.

Well said. It's hardly ruining ye're lives because Pete Doherty happens to be a drug addict.

FX Meister · 21-04-2006 04:42PM

Beastieboy wrote:

What is wrong with drug use if it only affects the user, each to there own.

Maybe the fact that it never only affects the user. Grow up and get some factual opinions and stop living in your drug crazed world.

Tchocky · 21-04-2006 04:44PM

So what, you may ask? Well here's so what; like it or nott the guy is looked up to by fans and has become something of a cult hero...the clear message being sent out to fans and society in general is that doing crack and smack is cool, and it's fine 'cos you can get away with it by just saying sorry to the judge...then walk out of court of go get sh*t-faced again.

Right. Anyone influenced to this sort of degree by that sort of **** is already a evolutionary cul-de-sac.

Let people have their heroes. If someone is determined to be thick, than who are you to stop them

Any thoughts Mr Franklin?

FX Meister · 21-04-2006 04:47PM

rubadub wrote:

If the internet was around in the 60's I bet there would be threads just like this about hendrix, lennon, morrison etc being pathetic dickheads. Many people do not like their music too, many also do.

You can't put Pete Doherty in the same league musically as hendrix, lennon or morrison. And if you do you're a fool.

Tchocky · 21-04-2006 04:49PM

I think Doherty can do whatever he likes, and if fans idolise him for drug addiction, and get the message that it's ok, then it's their problem

You could argue about public image responsibility, and we could start by burning down advertising offices

Whiskeyjack · 21-04-2006 04:49PM

Mexicola wrote:

[rant mode on]
You know I am getting pissed off these days opening every paper, and seeing articles online about this wánker being up for drugs charges... There's always an accompanying photo aswell... The guy is a complete nob yet he thrives on this bad publicity. Someone please lock this gimp up once and for all. Its not as if anybody cares.... :mad:

You're sick of hearing about him?Well I'm sick of hearing about hearing about him.Don't concern yourself with **** musicians such as he, if you open a paper or magazine that percieves this piss midget as a great musician with a drug habit (as opposed to what he really is; a great junkie with a music habit) then it's obviously a rag that's not worth your time.Concentrate on things you think are worth listening to.

And to practice what I preach have a look at these guys:

The Bloody Hollies

Beastieboy · 21-04-2006 05:12PM

FX Meister wrote:

Maybe the fact that it never only affects the user. Grow up and get some factual opinions and stop living in your drug crazed world.

It doesn't have to affect anyone but the user, i recognise that in many cases it does affect others but i would say there are other factors involved there.

Don't bother raising issue of mistreatment of poor indefencless people in the drugs trade because it was governments that created this situation with anti-drugs laws that encourage a black market emerge.

I'm not going to start a debate about whether drug use should be legalised, i would just say that for people who find themselves in the position of being dependent on drugs i would not view them so harshly that i would want them dead and i don't think any benefits for society in arresting and jailing Pete Doherty for using the drugs that he has come to depend upon.

Pete Drugerty

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