Should the whole good friday law be changed to allow ppl to drink?

emmagean · 12-04-2006 07:30AM

it'd be interesting to see that crime statistics for Good Friday compared to other Fridays in the year

edited to add the following:
and also the A&E figures

Dermington · 12-04-2006 08:47AM

User45701 wrote:

Well should it? think about it b4 voting i am voting no because since where not allowed to do it and no offos sell drink the whole nation seems to just run to the offo after work on thursday to and get well hammerd on fri

learn to type english correctly for god sake.

12-04-2006 09:18AM

I don't see half as many complaints around christmas or st paddys day.
Is that because good friday just isn't as much fun?

rubadub · 12-04-2006 09:34AM

alleepally wrote:

It is a holy day yes, but not a holiday...

It is not a public holiday. it is a holiday, the word holiday actually deriving from holy day. Almost every single day of the year is a "holy day" so should we just shut all offies for good?

I do not see why restrictions are put on recreational drug sales due to a some lad allegedly being hammered to a cross 2000 years ago.

rubadub · 12-04-2006 09:36AM

bluewolf wrote:

I don't see half as many complaints around christmas or st paddys day.

pubs are open paddys day. People are generally at home drinking on christmas, and much more importantly are recovering from christmas eves drinking! if pubs were closed on new years day, most wouldnt give a damn.

good friday is always on a friday! my favourite drinking day. I don't mind it, always have a good house session.

mandz · 12-04-2006 10:59AM

Well my folks have a pub and realistically they only get two days off a year good friday and christmas day. From their point of view i really don't think they should change the laws as its only right that publicans get a day off given that everyone in other professions do. if you need a drink that badly you can always stock up the day before and have a party or something

rubadub · 12-04-2006 11:02AM

mandz wrote:

Well my folks have a pub and realistically they only get two days off a year good friday and christmas day.

they can close ANY DAY THEY WANT, just like the vast majority of businesses.

mandz wrote:

its only right that publicans get a day off given that everyone in other professions do.

it is not a public holiday, other businesses choose if they want to work or not.

CerebralCortex · 12-04-2006 11:13AM

Bar Staff need days off too, the need all the help they can get in this country.
IrishMan1:Haven't seen you in a while.
IrishMan2:Ya its been a while.
IrishMan1&IrishMan2:See you in the PUB tonite

Raiser · 12-04-2006 11:54AM

nuttz wrote:

You can infer what you want. By the sound of it you wouldn't know culture or heritage if it bit you on the ass.

Manditory prohibition of retailing alcoholic beverages on a particular day is not culture or heritage Nuttz [

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Let the biblically manic be devout wherever and whenever they want - just leave us that are trying to escape the hypocritical church alone....

- Its 2006AD now, do ye want to bring back stoning for venial sins also? Why not make everyone speak latin, eat fish and recite the rosary hourly every February 26th?

rubadub · 12-04-2006 12:13PM

CerebralCortex wrote:

Bar Staff need days off too,

so do waiters & newsagent staff. What holy day would you suggest closing resturaunts and newsagents on?

You'd swear bar staff only get 2 days off per year. I'd say plenty are pissed off at being forced to take the day off, look at the other threads, many are pissed off at it being a forced holiday.

12-04-2006 02:10PM

rubadub wrote:

pubs are open paddys day. People are generally at home drinking on christmas, and much more importantly are recovering from christmas eves drinking! if pubs were closed on new years day, most wouldnt give a damn.

Then they can find some other way to socialise one bloody day of the year.

good friday is always on a friday! my favourite drinking day. I don't mind it, always have a good house session.

Fine.
Let others do likewise or live without alcohol for one day.

biko · 12-04-2006 02:17PM

Just think of it a mini-mini-Lent

danbhala · 12-04-2006 03:03PM

I love good friday because me and my mates usually spend it having a BBQ and drinking beers for whole day in an act of protest

rubadub · 12-04-2006 03:29PM

bluewolf wrote:

Then they can find some other way to socialise one bloody day of the year.

Yep and most do, I still see no reason why they should have to though. Are there any other substances you would like to see the sale of banned on specific days of the year?
It doesnt bother me much I just see no logic to it. I have heard you are not supposed to eat meat on fridays, would it not be more sensible to ban the sale of meat on good friday. Did jesus ask people to stop drinking while on the cross or something? When did the ban come into force? and what was the reasoning behind it? were any other items considered for banning?

I see it as being unfair to publicans more than anybody else, fridays on public holiday weekends must be very busy days.

(BTW it is funny you mention it being "one bloody day", the word bloody is derived from the blood of christ spilt on good friday, and considered a blasphemous term by many)

tbh · 12-04-2006 03:51PM

macfran wrote:

Fair play to you for drinking all day and eating rare or maybe raw steaks, that is your perogitive but your attack on the Angelus bells being sounded on our national RTE stations are irrelevent to this discussion and an opening for you to try to dismiss/ignore what is part of our culture. With so many different cultures living in our country now why should we lose all ours and let their cultures take over....and I am not talking religion.

You've embarrased yourself there a little bit. Firstly, pubs closing on Good Friday and the Angelus bells being played are OF COURSE to do with religion, and nothing to do with culture. You could argue that religion has shaped our culture, but to say "let other cultures take over" - bull****. How about if we had a call to prayer in Arabic every night at six o'clock, or were not allowed drink during ramadan? would that be religion or culture? The problem is that you think that Christianity has a divine right (pun totally intended) to be revered, and any other religion is "another culture taking over". Well, I'm Irish. I was born and rared here, went to school here, cheer on the football team, go to Croke Park, did my leaving etc etc..and I could care less if they dropped the angelus. You know why? I'm not a practising Catholic. I don't want ANY religious traditions dictating what I can or can't do. If I want to eat meat on Friday, or drink on Good Friday, I should be free to do it. If you don't like it - tough. Understand this - religion is a BELIEF SYSTEM - you don't have proof for ANY of it. Islam is just as valid as Christianity is just as valid as Buddism. If you want to believe it, thats fine, I'm delighted for you. It's your choice, and I choose not to believe. Thats all religion pal, its got nothing - NOTHING - to do with culture.

Aurther Hugh · 12-04-2006 06:20PM

Am I right in saying that you are as a Catholic allowed drink on good Friday? looking it up I couldn't find anything to the contrary. So I'm not sure drinking is necessarily a protest, rather alcohol is not sold like on Christmas day or within Sunday restrictions, but there is no reason why it cannot be consumed. Meat is a no no within the spirit of eating just one meal in the day.

Max_Damage · 12-04-2006 06:25PM

What I find funny is that people nearly go insane if a pub isn't open two days a year (Good Friday and Christmas Day). For fcuk sake people, no wonder the rest of the world see's us as been a nation of alcoholics.

Mossy Monk · 12-04-2006 06:29PM

people should be given a choice

if a landlord wants to close then leave him/her close
if member of the public doesnt want to drink then leave him/her not drink

it is a stupid law

Aurther Hugh · 12-04-2006 06:33PM

Mossy Monk wrote:

if member of the public doesnt want to drink then leave him/her not drink

it is a stupid law

There's no law to say you cant drink! Just not in a pub...is it seriously that much of a problem. TBH I'd prefer a day off and not to go to the pub then to have to go to work.

Mossy Monk · 12-04-2006 06:34PM

Aurther Hugh wrote:

There's no law to say you cant drink!

i meant in a pub

12-04-2006 06:35PM

Max_Damage wrote:

no wonder the rest of the world see's us as been a nation of alcoholics.

Ok seriously, I can't let this one pass.
First: sees. It's not see's, there is no word see's.

Second: being, not been. Been is one syllable, being is two.

So:- no wonder the rest of the world sees us as being a nation of alcoholics.

_Kaiser_ · 12-04-2006 06:47PM

Short answer: yes it should be changed.

Slightly longer answer: it's a result of a culture and lifestyle that most Irish people have moved away from. The option should be there for those who want to go to a pub on the day in question. And what about our ever growing imigrant population for whom the Catholic Church has even less relevance than our own population? Why should they be required to abide by a law that's outdated even in this country?

Religion has no place in the running of a country in my opinion. I'd go so far as to say that it has no place in schools either, especially - as mentioned above - with our increasingly multicutural soceity. Religion belongs at home where parents can guide their children as they wish. It shouldn't be force fed to kids in schools.

Oh and I agree about removing the Angelus as well for the same reasons as above.

tbh · 12-04-2006 06:55PM

you put it more eloquently than me Kaiser, nice post, although I'd just like to say, we shouldn't remove it because it offends people from different cultures, as my friend macfran seems to be worried about, we should remove it because religion - any religion - should have no place in society, full stop. As Superintendent Chalmers put it: Religion has no place in public schools [or society] the way facts have no place in organized religion."

Max_Damage · 12-04-2006 07:01PM

bluewolf wrote:

Ok seriously, I can't let this one pass.
First: sees. It's not see's, there is no word see's.

Second: being, not been. Been is one syllable, being is two.

So:- no wonder the rest of the world sees us as being a nation of alcoholics.

Meh. I was always better at maths anyway.:p

faceman · 12-04-2006 07:05PM

i like to drink and i cudnt give a flute whether ppl do or dont but i dont see why the law shud be changed. its a grim reminder to how sad our lives can be if ppl are so desperate to stock up on drink on holy thursday or queue up outside a boozer on a sat nite at midnite.

That being said, we all know there are families out there where the father may sit in a boozer every nite of the week (may not necessarily be an alcoholic). If closing the pub forces him to spend time with his family then some good has come out of it.

seamus · 12-04-2006 10:31PM

mandz wrote:

Well my folks have a pub and realistically they only get two days off a year good friday and christmas day. From their point of view i really don't think they should change the laws as its only right that publicans get a day off given that everyone in other professions do. if you need a drink that badly you can always stock up the day before and have a party or something

At the risk of insulting your intelligence, there's nothing to stop publicans from taking holidays. Hell, why does the pub have to close so the publican can take a holiday? Surely someone else can look after the pub. Pubs stay open 363 days in the year because there's money to be made on those days. No other reason whatsoever.

In terms of "if you need a drink that badly", the actual problem is people who seem to think that a day off from drinking is required. If someone needs the state to force them out of the pub, then not being able to drink for a day is the least of their problems.

petek · 12-04-2006 11:57PM

my problem isn't so much that the pubs aren't open, cuz theres always loads of house parties because they're closed. and house parties are always way more fun than pubs.

the real problem is that the off licences are closed. so i end up buying a load of cans or whatever on thursday evening, go out thursday night, there'll inevitably be some party somewhere or people coming back to mine, and then before i know it, all my booze is gone before the morning. then what do i do with myself for all the good friday night parties?

this law encourages drug taking.

Should the whole good friday law be changed to allow ppl to drink?

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