Should the whole good friday law be changed to allow ppl to drink?

User45701

Well should it? think about it b4 voting i am voting no because since where not allowed to do it and no offos sell drink the whole nation seems to just run to the offo after work on thursday to and get well hammerd on fri

Chong

TBH if ppl want the offy opened on the day than dont give people the day off.

User45701

User45701 wrote:

Well should it? think about it b4 voting i am voting no because since where not allowed to do it and no offos sell drink the whole nation seems to just run to the offo after work on thursday to and get well hammerd on fri

Try reposting that in English, please.

c - 13

It doesnt bother me in the least that I cant go to the pub/buy drink - one day out of the year isnt going to kill anyone to do without a pint.

Nothing to do with religion on my part.

I cant understand all the stockpiling that goes on on the thursday before - if you go into a supermarket/off licence it looks like people are preparing for an outright alcohol ban or something the amount of drink they're buying.

I'm also willing to bet that 75%+ of the people stockpiling the drink wouldnt normally drink on a friday either.

Heyes

Im going to be working just like a normal day so its much of a muchness to me

nuttz

bluewolf wrote:

Try reposting that in English, please.

I have to agree with that.

No, I dont think the law should be changed. I disagree not on religious grounds, but cultural.

Wertz

I reckon the reason people seek to get slaughtered on Good Friday is for the very fact that someone/something is telling them that they can't...as a nation we don't particularly care for being told what to do, and if there's some way round that especially where drink is involved, we'll take it.
It's also a rebellion against religion in a way...even if we're no longer the religious state we once were.

It's two days of the year...the other one is Christmas day and look how drunk we get then too.

Pubs should be allowed open, offies should be allowed operate as normal...then it's just like any other friday...you'd find a lot less people actually drank for the sake of thinking they couldn't...I don't think the catholic religion plays that much of a part in our daily lives any more. How many kids are looking forward to mass this sunday? Definitely not nearly as many as the amount that can't wait to get home and make themselves sick eating chocolate...

Zaph

I worked in a off licence one Holy Thursday and it was scary the amount of booze people were buying. That said, I do think the law should be changed. It's an anachronism in this day and age to dictate when people can go to the pub based on a religious holiday. I know people will then argue that the pubs should be open on Christmas Day, but Christmas is far more a time for being with friends and family than Good Friday is, and to be fair the bar staff deserve to be able to do so too. Either way, I may or may not have a drink on Friday, depending on where I find myself, just like every other year.

Mossy Monk

their shouldnt be a ban on the sale of alcohol

it is correct though that a lot of people will only drink because they aren't allowed in a pub

bush

Its funny how ridiculous people act over good Friday, acting like complete alcoholics hoarding cans. I wouldn't mind but they probably never drink on a Friday night usually.

Tar.Aldarion

No drink, no meat, no work!
Sure it's a modern eutopia.
Lollers.

Wertz

Tar.Aldarion wrote:

No drink, no meat, no work!
Sure it's a modern eutopia.
Lollers.

I'll be workin', eating meat and not drinking...just like any other friday.

I'm going to hell aren't I?

Tar.Aldarion

Wertz wrote:

I'll be workin', eating meat and not drinking...just like any other friday.

I'm going to hell aren't I?

Just in my eyes.

Raiser

Yes and ban that retarded ding-dong holy gong at 6pm on radio and TV - Who are the God-dammned Angelas anyway[?], that $hite is not relevant or valid, let grandma play it on her Ipod if she wants to hear it every day.

How dare they put such a hurdle in the path of my personal attack on my very own liver. The church is on its way out - a$$holes is the most eloquent way to verbalise my views on the bat-costumed roaming Catholic cretins given that they deserve no more than 1/2 a seconds thought or consideration.....

I drink all day on Good Friday and eat rare steaks with my hands out of spite

seamus

As others have said, it only serves to increase the volume of alcohol drank on that day. Remove the laws and sure, those who take the day off may go to the pub for a few, but everyone will else will just treat it like another Friday.

It's an archaic throwback to the Church-run Ireland, and it really needs to be removed.

Max_Damage

Doesn't really mater to me, as I'll be on the ferry to France that day.:D

Pigman II

Get rid of it and then what? Where does it all end? Get rid of the Angelus before the news perhaps? Or worshipping Satan on Xmas day instead of Santa?

smashey

The joys of living along the border.:D

MrSinn

Yea we should be able to go to the pub on good friday,all part of the free movement of goods services and people within the EU,so not being able to go to the pub on good friday is a denial of the free movement of services,contact the relevant MEP(eurodisney representative)

gilroyb

First, I think the thread title should probably be should the law be changed to allow people to buy alcohol on Good Friday. I get the impression they're already allowed drink.

Secondly, I'm not a big fan of the fact they close the off licences, but if people insist that the day be just like any other friday in because no one cares about religion, then why would people continue to get the day off work? Good Friday is a religious holiday, if it's not that, then why is it any sort of holiday?

Mimikyu

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alleepally

gilroyb wrote:

Good Friday is a religious holiday, if it's not that, then why is it any sort of holiday?

It is a holy day yes, but not a holiday...

http://www.oasis.gov.ie/employment/holidays_and_leave/annual_leave_public_holidays.html

I'd like to wish everyone a happy groundhog day. This same sh!t debate comes up every year.

Drink if ya want to, eat meat, have sex, yadda yadda - no one cares. If you feel the law is an affront to your personal liberty and a hark back to the days of opressive Ireland, then talk to your TD about it or have a good w*nk and you'll feel better.

macfran

Raiser wrote:

Yes and ban that retarded ding-dong holy gong at 6pm on radio and TV - Who are the God-dammned Angelas anyway[?], that $hite is not relevant or valid, let grandma play it on her Ipod if she wants to hear it every day.

How dare they put such a hurdle in the path of my personal attack on my very own liver. The church is on its way out - a$$holes is the most eloquent way to verbalise my views on the bat-costumed roaming Catholic cretins given that they deserve no more than 1/2 a seconds thought or consideration.....

I drink all day on Good Friday and eat rare steaks with my hands out of spite

Fair play to you for drinking all day and eating rare or maybe raw steaks, that is your perogitive but your attack on the Angelus bells being sounded on our national RTE stations are irrelevent to this discussion and an opening for you to try to dismiss/ignore what is part of our culture. With so many different cultures living in our country now why should we lose all ours and let their cultures take over....and I am not talking religion.

Manic Moran

Let the publicans and off-licensers have their day off.

NTM

Sleepy

Should the whole good friday law be changed to allow ppl to drink?

No.

Should the law be changed to prevent the infliction of religious beliefs upon others?
Yes.

scojones

I'm actually invited to a BBQ this Friday, meat, beer, the works. I can't wait

Mimikyu

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Raiser

macfran wrote:

Fair play to you for drinking all day and eating rare or maybe raw steaks, that is your perogitive but your attack on the Angelus bells being sounded on our national RTE stations are irrelevent to this discussion and an opening for you to try to dismiss/ignore what is part of our culture. With so many different cultures living in our country now why should we lose all ours and let their cultures take over....and I am not talking religion.

How is the Roman Catholic Church and some gob$hite hanging listlessly on the end of a bellrope at 6.00pm every day part of Irish culture? The Catholic church is as Irish as the Coliseum and over the years has seen as much misery, posturing, victimisation, profiteering and spilt blood.

- Go paint the Vatican green if you want to haul out that sloppy half-arsed argument.......Irish people are showing their exact level of respect for the Church in ever-increasing numbers with each passing year by ignoring it and regarding it as an irrelevant tripe-fest of a sham come carnival sideshow fiasco.

I can buy all the beer I want any other day, but as long as my tax revenue is paying for their cowardly, tawdry abuses of the weak and defenceless I dislike any intrusion of theirs in "normal" peoples lives - no matter how minor or trivial it may be.

P.S. May we infer that "A Prayer At Bedtime" is another Irish cultural gem and mainstay of our childrens heritage also?

scojones

Solitaryman666 wrote:

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Chalk it down

nuttz

Raiser wrote:

P.S. May we infer that "A Prayer At Bedtime" is another Irish cultural gem and mainstay of our childrens heritage also?

You can infer what you want. By the sound of it you wouldn't know culture or heritage if it bit you on the ass.

Nevyn

No beer friday.
It should be changed and if any devote christians of any type don't want to work or be in in a pub/bar/offlience/resturant then fine they can stay away.
The option should be open for people of differing faiths or none at all to
raise a glass of what ever beverage in what ever establishment and drink to
diversity.

emmagean

it'd be interesting to see that crime statistics for Good Friday compared to other Fridays in the year

edited to add the following:
and also the A&E figures

Dermington

User45701 wrote:

Well should it? think about it b4 voting i am voting no because since where not allowed to do it and no offos sell drink the whole nation seems to just run to the offo after work on thursday to and get well hammerd on fri

learn to type english correctly for god sake.

I don't see half as many complaints around christmas or st paddys day.
Is that because good friday just isn't as much fun?

rubadub

alleepally wrote:

It is a holy day yes, but not a holiday...

It is not a public holiday. it is a holiday, the word holiday actually deriving from holy day. Almost every single day of the year is a "holy day" so should we just shut all offies for good?

I do not see why restrictions are put on recreational drug sales due to a some lad allegedly being hammered to a cross 2000 years ago.

rubadub

bluewolf wrote:

I don't see half as many complaints around christmas or st paddys day.

pubs are open paddys day. People are generally at home drinking on christmas, and much more importantly are recovering from christmas eves drinking! if pubs were closed on new years day, most wouldnt give a damn.

good friday is always on a friday! my favourite drinking day. I don't mind it, always have a good house session.

mandz

Well my folks have a pub and realistically they only get two days off a year good friday and christmas day. From their point of view i really don't think they should change the laws as its only right that publicans get a day off given that everyone in other professions do. if you need a drink that badly you can always stock up the day before and have a party or something

rubadub

mandz wrote:

Well my folks have a pub and realistically they only get two days off a year good friday and christmas day.

they can close ANY DAY THEY WANT, just like the vast majority of businesses.

mandz wrote:

its only right that publicans get a day off given that everyone in other professions do.

it is not a public holiday, other businesses choose if they want to work or not.

CerebralCortex

Bar Staff need days off too, the need all the help they can get in this country.
IrishMan1:Haven't seen you in a while.
IrishMan2:Ya its been a while.
IrishMan1&IrishMan2:See you in the PUB tonite

Raiser

nuttz wrote:

You can infer what you want. By the sound of it you wouldn't know culture or heritage if it bit you on the ass.

Manditory prohibition of retailing alcoholic beverages on a particular day is not culture or heritage Nuttz []

Let the biblically manic be devout wherever and whenever they want - just leave us that are trying to escape the hypocritical church alone....

- Its 2006AD now, do ye want to bring back stoning for venial sins also? Why not make everyone speak latin, eat fish and recite the rosary hourly every February 26th?

rubadub

CerebralCortex wrote:

Bar Staff need days off too,

so do waiters & newsagent staff. What holy day would you suggest closing resturaunts and newsagents on?

You'd swear bar staff only get 2 days off per year. I'd say plenty are pissed off at being forced to take the day off, look at the other threads, many are pissed off at it being a forced holiday.

rubadub

rubadub wrote:

pubs are open paddys day. People are generally at home drinking on christmas, and much more importantly are recovering from christmas eves drinking! if pubs were closed on new years day, most wouldnt give a damn.

Then they can find some other way to socialise one bloody day of the year.

good friday is always on a friday! my favourite drinking day. I don't mind it, always have a good house session.

Fine.
Let others do likewise or live without alcohol for one day.

biko

Just think of it a mini-mini-Lent

danbhala

I love good friday because me and my mates usually spend it having a BBQ and drinking beers for whole day in an act of protest

rubadub

bluewolf wrote:

Then they can find some other way to socialise one bloody day of the year.

Yep and most do, I still see no reason why they should have to though. Are there any other substances you would like to see the sale of banned on specific days of the year?
It doesnt bother me much I just see no logic to it. I have heard you are not supposed to eat meat on fridays, would it not be more sensible to ban the sale of meat on good friday. Did jesus ask people to stop drinking while on the cross or something? When did the ban come into force? and what was the reasoning behind it? were any other items considered for banning?

I see it as being unfair to publicans more than anybody else, fridays on public holiday weekends must be very busy days.

(BTW it is funny you mention it being "one bloody day", the word bloody is derived from the blood of christ spilt on good friday, and considered a blasphemous term by many)

tbh

macfran wrote:

Fair play to you for drinking all day and eating rare or maybe raw steaks, that is your perogitive but your attack on the Angelus bells being sounded on our national RTE stations are irrelevent to this discussion and an opening for you to try to dismiss/ignore what is part of our culture. With so many different cultures living in our country now why should we lose all ours and let their cultures take over....and I am not talking religion.

You've embarrased yourself there a little bit. Firstly, pubs closing on Good Friday and the Angelus bells being played are OF COURSE to do with religion, and nothing to do with culture. You could argue that religion has shaped our culture, but to say "let other cultures take over" - bull****. How about if we had a call to prayer in Arabic every night at six o'clock, or were not allowed drink during ramadan? would that be religion or culture? The problem is that you think that Christianity has a divine right (pun totally intended) to be revered, and any other religion is "another culture taking over". Well, I'm Irish. I was born and rared here, went to school here, cheer on the football team, go to Croke Park, did my leaving etc etc..and I could care less if they dropped the angelus. You know why? I'm not a practising Catholic. I don't want ANY religious traditions dictating what I can or can't do. If I want to eat meat on Friday, or drink on Good Friday, I should be free to do it. If you don't like it - tough. Understand this - religion is a BELIEF SYSTEM - you don't have proof for ANY of it. Islam is just as valid as Christianity is just as valid as Buddism. If you want to believe it, thats fine, I'm delighted for you. It's your choice, and I choose not to believe. Thats all religion pal, its got nothing - NOTHING - to do with culture.

Aurther Hugh

Am I right in saying that you are as a Catholic allowed drink on good Friday? looking it up I couldn't find anything to the contrary. So I'm not sure drinking is necessarily a protest, rather alcohol is not sold like on Christmas day or within Sunday restrictions, but there is no reason why it cannot be consumed. Meat is a no no within the spirit of eating just one meal in the day.

Max_Damage

What I find funny is that people nearly go insane if a pub isn't open two days a year (Good Friday and Christmas Day). For fcuk sake people, no wonder the rest of the world see's us as been a nation of alcoholics.

Mossy Monk

people should be given a choice

if a landlord wants to close then leave him/her close
if member of the public doesnt want to drink then leave him/her not drink

it is a stupid law

Aurther Hugh

Mossy Monk wrote:

if member of the public doesnt want to drink then leave him/her not drink

it is a stupid law

There's no law to say you cant drink! Just not in a pub...is it seriously that much of a problem. TBH I'd prefer a day off and not to go to the pub then to have to go to work.

Mossy Monk

Aurther Hugh wrote:

There's no law to say you cant drink!

i meant in a pub