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fly_agaric · 28-03-2006 08:55PM

scop wrote:

Ive kind of a unique perspective given I travel from Tallaght (77) to town and town (46A) to UCD.

Now its obvious both have huge catchment areas, both serve the same long ass routes and lots of people but its quite simple that to try out new buses you sent them on a nice route.

Yeah, the 46a is the "flagship route" or something and gets all the new developments first.

Maybe its an effort to entice people who wouldn't be caught dead on Dublin Bus to try leaving their cars at home for the commute or let their darlings take public transport to school?

projectmayhem · 28-03-2006 09:38PM

ferdi wrote:

If you live in Comanche territory your going to end up with sh!te buses,
if you live in civilization (dublins southside not including riff-raff exceptions: sallynoggin, tallaght etc) you will end up with mostly decent buses.

i don't exactly live in foxrock but my bus service is every 7 minutes and it's always new buses

fly_agaric wrote:

Maybe its an effort to entice people who wouldn't be caught dead on Dublin Bus to try leaving their cars at home for the commute or let their darlings take public transport to school?

that's a good point. but it'll be hard to get mummy und duddy out of the oul SL500... because we all know they just LOVE blocking the roads for the 5minute journey to drop off the wee ones to school.

RandolphEsq · 28-03-2006 10:18PM

the 10 all the way in and out of town,never any trouble and people getting it are only going to ucd so its rarely busy

Piste · 28-03-2006 10:27PM

The 46a Goes through Donnybrook which has a load of schools, Muckross, John Scottus, Pembroke, Conleths, Tereseans and also nearby in Ranelagh there's Gonzaga and Sandford. It also goes past Coláiste Iosagáin and Coláiste Eoin so that's an awful lots of schoolkids that use it as so many of them come from areas that the 46a goes through.

segadreamcast · 28-03-2006 10:34PM

Love the use of this word skobie. Ironic that the people who use it sound even more vile than the people it, apparently, describes. Sko-bie. The pronunciation even sounds repulsive.

Anyway, it's true that the 46a definitely has a disproportionate amount of resources going towards it. Furthermore, it also has a huge amount of passengers.

The question here - which all of you keep missing, is cause and effect:

Does the 46a have lots of passengers because its regular?
Or is it regular because it automatically will have lots of passengers?

For me, the former is clearly the answer and, if DB stepped up its other services (why doesn't the Northside have such a flagship route, for instance?), then the passenger numbers would also consequently increase.

segadreamcast · 28-03-2006 10:36PM

Piste wrote:

The 46a Goes through Donnybrook which has a load of schools, Muckross, John Scottus, Pembroke, Conleths, Tereseans and also nearby in Ranelagh there's Gonzaga and Sandford. It also goes past Coláiste Iosagáin and Coláiste Eoin so that's an awful lots of schoolkids that use it as so many of them come from areas that the 46a goes through.

Every bus route that is city centre bound passes a roughly equal number of schools. The only difference? Several of the schools you mentioned here are 'prestigious'. Pretty poor reasoning for why the 46a is so regular.

Larianne · 28-03-2006 10:37PM

kurisu wrote:

really? ours are full most of the time , besides that doesnt mean that they cant spread the new buses out a bit more evenly around the city, the 46A did get on ok before with the older buses they hand down to us

"ours", "us"???

I used to get the 46A to college for two years. My usual bus route is 41. Getting the bus at peak times can be hell because they are so packed. They have introduced a few extras buses at peak times and the buses are a mixture of new and older models.

The 46A is a busy route all the time.

segadreamcast · 28-03-2006 10:39PM

Larianne wrote:

"ours", "us"???

I used to get the 46A to college for two years. My usual bus route is 41. Getting the bus at peak times can be hell because they are so packed. They have introduced a few extras buses at peak times and the buses are a mixture of new and older models.

The 46A is a busy route all the time.

Yes, but it's busy because it's well provided for. When people see that a bus service is running efficiently and consistently in their area every six minutes, they will flock to it. Why is it only the 46a that is getting this treatment though? Whether anyone cares to admit it or not, Dublin Bus does give it better treatment than so, so many other routes.

kurisu · 28-03-2006 10:40PM

Originally Posted by Larianne
The 46A is a busy route all the time

no it isnt ive seen it empty most days your just plain wrong

Chucky the tree · 28-03-2006 10:41PM

projectmayhem wrote:

i don't exactly live in foxrock but my bus service is every 7 minutes and it's always new buses.

Hello and welcome to understatement of the year.

Sure the northside and the few kip areas on the southside shouldnt even be given a bus service. At least then they wouldnt be able to move around as much and town would be alot nicer.

Larianne · 28-03-2006 10:51PM

kurisu wrote:

no it isnt ive seen it empty most days your just plain wrong

Did I say it was packed to the rafters, no. Its a busy route I said. I got the bus for two years, twice a day.

I agree with you NoelRock about why they can't do it to other routes. I don't know why. You'd have to ask someone in Dublin bus.

John R · 28-03-2006 10:55PM

The 46a is regular and very well used because it has good bus lanes for most of the route. The core part (Stephen's Green - Foxrock) has quick journey times and year on year has increased in popularity in excess of any other route.

The suggestion that all new buses go on that route is false. Every year the allocation of new buses are divided up between all the different garages so last year each one got 10-20 new buses.

The 79 also got an allocation of new buses last year so it can't be said that only well off areas get new buses.

Many of the buses on tallaght routes, particularly the 49, 77a and about half of the ones on the 77 are only 2-4 years old. Unfortunately they have taken a battering, mainly on the inside so they can look a lot older.

The 20 3-axle buses put on the 46a at the end of last year are to stay on that route for a long time so it won't be getting newer buses for several years.

kurisu · 28-03-2006 10:59PM

Chucky the tree your arrogant moron simple as that

StupidLikeAFox · 28-03-2006 11:17PM

kurisu, learn to spot sarcasm

Also, everyones a friggin expert

Black_Couch · 28-03-2006 11:21PM

Think Dublin bus could do so much better to be honest. Its a sham of service. There are private bus operators who do a much better job. Its a pity that all the funding is going to Dublin Bus who recieve grants of a hundred thousand or so for each bus when private companies receive no grants. Thus private companies are forced to operate only at peak times although thats starting to change a bit now I think.

Chucky the tree · 28-03-2006 11:40PM

how are they forced to operate at peak times? they operate at peak times because they make more money then.

Linoge · 28-03-2006 11:51PM

And another thing...

Why is it always a 46A that you see when you ever see a Dublin Bus on an ad? Namely ALL Dublin Bus ads, and I think that HB ad. Number 10 sometimes used too. Why is it never the auld 17??!!

astrofool · 29-03-2006 12:01AM

kurisu, using the 46a and going on many journey's on it will qualify me to say that it is full most of the time, even off-peak. Are you sure you're not seeing it leave Busarus?...

Also, the 145 has a very similar route, if not more prestigious as it goes through killiney, dalkey rather than Dún Laoighaire and generally uses older buses. The 46D as well which travels through foxrock is almost always one of the 90-D buses (and breaks down an awful lot). As said, the 46a gets the biggest/best buses because its the busiest route, simple as. Same way that Aer Lingus use their newest Jumbo's on their busiest routes, not the most 'prestigious'.

Mimikyu · 29-03-2006 12:29AM

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Chucky the tree · 29-03-2006 12:38AM

Linoge wrote:

Why is it never the auld 17??!!

Imagine asking a camera crew to wait around till the 17 turns up! Cruelity.

Mimikyu · 29-03-2006 12:49AM

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melekalikimaka · 29-03-2006 12:58AM

Solitaryman666 wrote:

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that sums dublin bus up

Mimikyu · 29-03-2006 01:14AM

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rainbow kirby · 29-03-2006 01:16AM

Solitaryman666 wrote:

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4 years now of getting the 75 and the 17 to college. Shoot me now.

Mimikyu · 29-03-2006 01:18AM

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singingstranger · 29-03-2006 01:32AM

They always show the 10 and 46A on the ads because the 10 is the single busiest route in the entire network, and the 46A is, as was said, the "flagship" bus.

Regarding the point that any other bus that's bound for the city centre serves an equal number of schools, that's probably true - but the same can't be said for Universities. Don't forget that the 46A serves both UCD itself and its main catchment area, as well as Trinity and many of its attendees too. UCD alone has a student and staff populace of 24000 - that's bigger than the entire population of County Leitrim. While I don't deny there's probably snobbery on the part of Dublin Bus, I reckon this could have something to do with why it's the 46A route that's gotten all the new buses.

rubadub · 29-03-2006 09:30AM

Blisterman wrote:

How come you never see a 46, just a 46a?

There are only a few 46's per day. Totally different route.

kurisu · 29-03-2006 05:23PM

astrofool today i seen 4 46A's in a row 3 of which were together and another following from a few cars down they had just come up from monkstown all of them had between one and two passengers each not packed and not just leaving busarus and yesterday i seen this same thing happen in Dún Laoighaire
while waiting for another bus.

Dagnir Glaurung · 29-03-2006 06:32PM

kurisu wrote:

astrofool today i seen 4 46A's in a row 3 of which were together and another following from a few cars down they had just come up from monkstown all of them had between one and two passengers each not packed and not just leaving busarus and yesterday i seen this same thing happen in Dún Laoighaire
while waiting for another bus.

The 46a is only really busy between Deansgrange and the city centre. It's never full in Dun Laoighaire.

I used to always get the 46a to and from school but got fed up of always seeing three or four go past me full. Too depressing, prefer to walk

MartMax · 29-03-2006 07:39PM

u don't have to be posh to be on 46As...

man i love riding on 46A every morning...
love the crews and passangers too..

46a...

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