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Did you support the riots and why

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  • #32
    dbnavan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,610 ✭✭✭dbnavan


    sjones wrote:
    I support them kicking the crap out of Charlie Bird, he annoys me.

    And they made you a mod :eek: whatever next,

    ~Bows down, I am worthy of this intellegence~


  • #33
    jonny68
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,531 ✭✭✭jonny68


    I too think Charlie Bird is a wan*er but he didn't deserve what happened to him.


  • #34
    Calibos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,925 ✭✭✭Calibos


    Lump wrote:
    Everyone knew that Dublin Scum bags were going to destroy their own capital city? I didn't know that it wascoming, and I think you'll find many others didn't either, am I stupid? Also, the march didn't take place, it was called off because the muppets were wrecking the joint, again THEIR own city, before the march took place. It was like free reign was given to all the shít heads in dublin/the country to come out and cause trouble. I say arm the police with rubber bullets, and lots of dogs and teach them a lesson, oh a water cannon would be good too.

    I'm ashamed to be Irish.... in relation to all of this Riot malarky. Seriously! WRECKED THEIR OWN CITY!

    John

    A thread from a few days before the riots.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2054893946

    A thread from before Christmas!!

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2054861835

    Everyone knew there would be trouble. Why didn't the Gardai know. maybe they need a few cynics in the force too? Were we all just horribly cynical to assume the worst. Realists more like. In an ideal world this March should have gone ahead and there should have been no trouble. Realistically we all knew this would kick off knowing the brainless skanger fcuks in this city.

    I guarantee that everyone who predicted trouble for the March are the same people who in one of the many skanger threads would say how they would cross the street to avoid these little scumbags, taking their demeanor, pigeon walk and tracksuit/burberry cap attire as ample warning that these guys could be trouble and best avoided. Conversely the very same people decrying the stereotyping of pigeon walking be-tracksuited young men as dangerous and calling the former, racists, snobs and elitists etc etc would probably be the same guys in the aformentioned thread thinking everything would be rosey and that we underestimate the young inner city/council estate young men of the city.

    Not elitist. Realists!!

    Appologies for turning this into a skanger thread but really that is what it comes down to so not really that Off Topic. Orange Marches weren't the problem on Saturday. Republicans weren't even the problem last Saturday. Fcuckless Skangers infesting the city were the problem.


  • #35
    Lump
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,984 ✭✭✭✭Lump


    The point I'm making is that people didn't KNOW there'd be trouble even if both sides didn't meet.


  • #36
    Sam Vimes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,611 ✭✭✭✭Sam Vimes


    dbnavan wrote:
    Glad to see I amnt the only one that thinks like this..

    everyone thinks like this. we know it was scum with no motive except getting a bit of craic from throwing rocks at police.
    Lump wrote:
    The point I'm making is that people didn't KNOW there'd be trouble even if both sides didn't meet.
    well, that's true, they didn't KNOW but there was a high chance of it happening so they shouold have had a heavy garda presence

    Hobbes wrote:
    I thought he was attacked because someone pointed at him and shouted "Orange Bastard".

    that reminds me of south park. when stan's uncle jimbo is hunting, but the law has been changed so that you can only kill in self defence against an animal.

    so he shouts "its comin right for us" before shooting deer etc :D


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  • #37
    rubadub
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    Lump wrote:
    Everyone knew that Dublin Scum bags were going to destroy their own capital city? I didn't know that it wascoming, and I think you'll find many others didn't either, am I stupid?
    Not stupid, maybe simply ignorant as to what was going on. Most people didnt even hear the march was going to happen. I had an email a few days before saying one pub in town was arranging buses to bring people into town, and then back to the pub to "celebrate". I have seen quite a few pubs in town with "celtic supporters club" piss-ups, basically a bunch of young scumbags getting pissed singing RA songs.
    I would have been shocked if nothing had occured, especially a nice saturday afternoon, it was something to do. As mentioned they would have been up to the same crap elsewhere, they just all got together that particular day.


  • #38
    mise_me_fein_V2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 173 ✭✭mise_me_fein_V2


    After a dublin scumbag, Micko, explained to me that these unionist bastards were coming down here trying to start something I knew he was on to something.

    So, I got my Celtic jersey out, met up with the rest of the knackers, had a few joints on the bus along with some Cider, and we went off.

    We were talkin about Celtic winning the league on the way in, but we both knew that we could probably only name 3 players on the Celtic team, so we just we talked about Keano a lot. Fair fcuks to him.

    Soon as we saw those unionist scum, coming down here tryin to march in bleedin Dublin, we knew that the only thing to do was to grab some blocks and hurl them at the cops, whilst setting fire to a few cars at the same time.

    How else can we get the point across that???!!

    Anto explained to me that he didn't know what the unionist were marching for, but that he'd wish they'd fcuk off back to Northern Ireland.

    He said that he agreed with what the IRA was doing?

    When I asked him could he ever do what Bobby Sands did, he said... who?

    Anyway, after we got tired of fcuking stuff at the cops - who were as bad as the unionists according to micko - we went back up the road a had a good ol laugh about it.

    We had a great day and protected our country at the same time.

    Up the 'RA


  • #39
    Lump
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,984 ✭✭✭✭Lump


    Commander Vimes wrote:


    well, that's true, they didn't KNOW but there was a high chance of it happening so they shouold have had a heavy garda presence

    There were Hundreds of Garda around! What are you on about. I'm getting irritated reading this. Why is no one saying that the people should have had the decency to not **** their own city over, and have the Patriotism not to act like bell ends? Also mise_me_fein_V2 you're a muppet, if you were being serious, but I really hope you wern't.

    I'm getting annoyed reading the replies here, so this is my last comment.

    John


  • #40
    Dave!
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    I think someone needs a huuuugggggggg ;)


  • #41
    Calibos
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    No dis-respect Lump but in fairness I think its obvious that Mise Me fein is joking. A hypothetical little story about how one of these scummers might have posted here supporting the riots. It would(well is) funny only for the fact that it is so sad because it wouldn't be a million miles from the truth. ie most of the feckers wearing celtic jerseys probably couldn't name the team....wouldn't know who bobby sands was, didn't have a clue why Love Ulster was parading etc etc


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  • #42
    mise_me_fein_V2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 173 ✭✭mise_me_fein_V2


    Yes I was taking the p!ss.

    The Scumbags did the same a few years ago when there was a May Day (or something similar) type of protest.

    They don't have clue what they're protesting about, they just want to fcuk things up.

    I have no problem with anyone protesting against IRA violence.

    There was things that we knock about the IRA for no good reason. For instance I can see no problem comparing Gerry Adams to Michael Collins, though some people would say Adams is a scumbag and well everyone loves Collins.
    But there are/were a lot of basta.rds in the IRA that killed innocent people.

    Let them march - the unionist I mean.

    The Love Ulster thing is bollox. The unionist seem to ignore that there are 9 counties in Ulster, not 6


  • #43
    robz150
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 230 ✭✭robz150


    Calibos wrote:
    No dis-respect Lump but in fairness I think its obvious that Mise Me fein is joking. A hypothetical little story about how one of these scummers might have posted here supporting the riots. It would(well is) funny only for the fact that it is so sad because it wouldn't be a million miles from the truth. ie most of the feckers wearing celtic jerseys probably couldn't name the team....wouldn't know who bobby sands was, didn't have a clue why Love Ulster was parading etc etc

    Not a million miles from the truth at all but that was O'Connell street, what happened after e.g. http://images.sparky-s.com/sp_index.php?file=./Dublin%20Riots/fouro.jpg

    is just opportunist scum breaking into cars, damaging property and punching random people as they go by for the "buzz". these people do this every day, go down to the courts and they're laughing at us 50+ convictions and another slap on the wrist is all they get. The riots just showed up the problems in our society, not just in dublin every town in Ireland has these scumbags.


  • #44
    Siogfinsceal
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    the whole thing was crazy. i think the government are idiots to allow a match through dublin. The only reason they wanted to march was to antagonize people so it was stupid to agree to allow it. The government is meant to rul efor its people - well a lot of those people spoke out on Saturday and made it very clear that the people of the republic dont want plitical groups marching through dublin. if a group of republicans decided to go march through Belfast with tricolours there would be war too so its not a one - sided thing and the loyalists know that. Im not condoning the thugs and the violence of people (lets face it a lot of that was nothing to do with politics and was just people wanting to run riot) but the government needs to wake up


  • #45
    Lux23
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    No I didn't support the riots. I wasn't bothered by the march at all but I do think people had the right to protest but peacefully!


  • #46
    mise_me_fein_V2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 173 ✭✭mise_me_fein_V2


    Siogfinsceal wrote:
    The only reason they wanted to march was to antagonize people so it was stupid to agree to allow it.

    You don't know that to be true.

    Victims of IRA violence, surely some of them were genuine.

    Anyway, let them march. Then they have no reason to fear a united Ireland.

    If we let them march then they have nothing to say to us.


  • #47
    Terry
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    i was looking at saturday's paper (on the toilet. that's where every newspaper is supposed to be read) and there was a small piece about the march. it quoted the gardai as saying that 'every precaution has been made regarding the route of the march and all possible outcomes have been accounted for'.
    it made me laugh a little.
    hindsight is a great thing, isn't it?
    fact is, all possible outcomes were not accounted for and things went down the crapper.
    i agree with allowing victims of IRA violence march to the dail and voice their grievances with the Irish government, but do they really need an orange order parade troop with them? i don't want to hear "it's because it's their tradition". it is not their tradition because this is the first march of it's kind and it's not a damn parade.
    you are going to get a rise out of small minded bigots by waving union jacks (and any other red, white and blue flag you can muster up) because they have seen this behaviour at drumcree and feel the same thing that happened there is going to happen in Dublin.
    you could also point out that because they are entitled to an Irish passport, they should be allowed to march through the capital city. thing is, they have disavowed their right to Irish citizenship. they don't recognise it as valid, so why should their claim to a right to march in Dublin be validated? it's a double standard that many liberals seem to have overlooked.


  • #48
    The Wicker Man
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    mise_me_fein_V2 wrote:
    You don't know that to be true.

    Victims of IRA violence, surely some of them were genuine.

    Anyway, let them march. Then they have no reason to fear a united Ireland.

    If we let them march then they have nothing to say to us.



    absolutely agree, saturday has shown a united ireland to be a political impossibility whilst mindsets remain


  • #49
    Gazza22
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    I would have supported the protesters if they had of done it peaceful. They could have screamed all the fcuk's and whatever else at the parade if they wanted to....

    Though i do not support the rioting. I thought it was an embarrassment to our side and just made a mockery of us. About 99% of the people involved in the rioting were pure scangers anyway, so i couldn't give a toss about them...:rolleyes:


  • #50
    MorningStar
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    I would avoid Paddy's day in town this year for sure. There used to be a yearly running of the scumbags down Grafton street as the closed Steven's Green. THe scumbags smashed up windows as they were driven back. This year I think they might be a bit braver this year given recent events. THe effect on tourism will be very high if there is trouble on that day.


  • #51
    MrScruff
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    Every thread on this topic is an endless stream of backslapping posts calling the rioters brainless, stupid etc. Everyone nodding in agreement about these terrible scumbags "infesting" our city.

    I think these people are more disillusioned than mentally challenged. They riot and cause mayhem because their lives are more of a struggle than yours and I would imagine they feel frustrated. I'm not condoning it the riot, but the gap between the rich and the poor in Ireland is wider than ever.

    The London Pole tax riots didn't happen because of some lack of brain capacity.

    I agree that it didn't have much to do with political/republican beliefs, but blaming the entire thing on stupidity is an oversimplifying and ignorant way out IMO

    ...where's that asbestos suit


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  • #52
    MorningStar
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    MrScruff wrote:

    The London Pole tax riots didn't happen because of some lack of brain capacity.

    I agree that it didn't have much to do with political/republican beliefs, but blaming the entire thing on stupidity is an oversimplifying and ignorant way out IMO
    t

    The London riots were hijacked by anarcists and the riot in Dublin was hijacked by scumbags. THese scumbags may well be disillusioned youths and people involved. I grew up in Dublin and there are an awfull lot of people that believe life owes them, these people are very easily disillusioned it still doesn't make them right. Right now in ireland we have people from poor backgrounds who claim discrimination becasue of where they are from etc... The same complaints made by ethnic groups in poor areas around the world but they use race as the cause of them being disciminated against. Give ireland40 years and that is what will happen here.
    People at a lower levels of the standard of living tned to be ill educated and have poor communication skills. Not stupid people but ill-equiped to remain rational. There actions may not have been simply stupid but it is not smart either


  • #53
    Tha Gopher
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    Regardless of the arguement that the unionists won because irish people fought irish police and looted irish shops, the rioters did stop the parade going ahead. The south won. If the government wouldnt stop this hateful march then it was up to the people, legally or otherwise.


    And ive barely a ra bone in my body


  • #54
    mise_me_fein_V2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 173 ✭✭mise_me_fein_V2


    Why didn't you want the parade to go ahead.

    What's a march. They have no real power in Dublin, now do they?


  • #55
    Archytas
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    Tha Gopher wrote:
    Regardless of the arguement that the unionists won because irish people fought irish police and looted irish shops, the rioters did stop the parade going ahead. The south won. If the government wouldnt stop this hateful march then it was up to the people, legally or otherwise.

    And ive barely a ra bone in my body

    Hateful march? They were going to walk down a stupid road? So the hell what? Is it fear that they're gonna go home and gloat? So what if they walk in dublin? Makes no difference to me?

    I love the Republic. What happened in the past - happened. We can't change it now. And I believe we live in a better place for overcoming it.


  • #56
    Terry
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    the march was organised by these people. i'd call them pretty hateful people.
    allow victims of violence march through Dublin? no problem. allow the love ulster **** have a parade? not a chance.


  • #57
    nlgbbbblth
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    Chief--- wrote:
    I doubt you will get any replies, the people who rioted are anti-establishment. Hence why Gardai/Fire and Ambulance were all attacked. Even Charlie Bird who represents RTE.

    Charlie Bird was attacked because he is a Protestant.
    A van from St Columba's College was vandalised because it is Church of Ireland.


  • #58
    Dave!
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    ^
    Most of the cars destroyed weren't English... Although they were foreign (just like the clothes the rioters were wearing). It was not political or religious rioting, it was just... rioting. I think it could be understood better if you look at the socio-economic factors, and stuff like that, and ask why scumbag rioters are as they are... but I'm not in the mood to do that at the moment :o


  • #59
    Archytas
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    nlgbbbblth wrote:
    Charlie Bird was attacked because he is a Protestant.
    A van from St Columba's College was vandalised because it is Church of Ireland.

    Oh and that makes it ok then... does it?


  • #60
    county
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    julep wrote:
    the march was organised by these people. i'd call them pretty hateful people.
    allow victims of violence march through Dublin? no problem. allow the love ulster **** have a parade? not a chance.


    and your not hateful,hypocrisy rules


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  • #61
    arbeitsscheuer
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    DaveMcG wrote:
    ^
    Most of the cars destroyed weren't English... Although they were foreign (just like the clothes the rioters were wearing).
    Not all of em mate. Most had IRL plates.
    The mind boggles.
    Plus I saw a fair number of well dressed, "respectable" folks amongst the rioters. Just... Bizarre.


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