Did you support the riots and why

dbnavan

OK Boards is full of boards giving out about the riots. But I have yet to see someone post that they think it was right to go in a kick the sh*t out of gardai and burn out cars so is there anyone here who actually was there for the riot.



PLEASE if you want to give out about them this is NOT the thread for you, I want to see the mentality behind this 'scum'. If you are that passionate about it you wont mind posting.

fade2black

dbnavan wrote:

There is so many Love Ulster threads going on at the moment, is there anyway of putting them altogether or asking for no more threads to be opened on it, while I think the discussions are good, I am involved in a few of them, its just hard keeping track and then every so often a new one pops up.

eh...

Dave!

Well....


sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do!

That's all I'm sayin...

dbnavan

I knew someone would pick up on that.... but this is different to all other threads, all others give out about it. I want to see who supported it.

dbnavan

DaveMcG wrote:

Well....


sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do!

That's all I'm sayin...

Yea nobody will admit to it, cause they knew it was wrong, really showing conviction in your beliefs there.

fade2black

The only thing different about this thread is the title.

dbnavan

fade2black wrote:

The only thing different about this thread is the title.

No its not all other threads are people giving out about it, this thread is not was it right or was it wrong, or......wait I have cool video i took with my phone.

I want to see who actually supported it.

LegacyUser

No, I did not support the riots, because there was nothing to support.

I don’t mean to side track but this has really been bugging me - having read the coverage of the 'riots' in the national newspapers, I was appalled to see terms such as 'thug republicans', 'republican hooligans', 'scum bag republicans', 'thug sinn fein supporters' - used over and over again.

There was no 'belief' behind the riot as those rioting (or at least the majority) hold no loyalty to anything or anyone. The papers are right to describe the rioters as thugs, hooligans and scumbags, but they are wrong to associate them with any political party or movement.
To be honest, I feel such an association is to place to important and emphasis on them.
These 'scumbags' took advantage of a situation, and it just so happened that the 'love Ulster protest' was the situation that gave them the opening to run riot.
Had the protest have been against any other political movement, and it was publicised in the press that it was thought that not enough security planning had been put in place, and that it was most likely that chaos would rein, then these same scum bags would have rioted in this same way/

Basically, what I am saying is, they did not riot for a cause, or though loyalty, or through actual protest - they cared nothing for history, or actual political beliefs - they cared only for carnage, and that is exactly what they caused.

Turner

I doubt you will get any replies, the people who rioted are anti-establishment. Hence why Gardai/Fire and Ambulance were all attacked. Even Charlie Bird who represents RTE.

Most of those who rioted would not have access to clean household conditions, nevermind internet access.

All are probably in or have been in custody since for theft, public order offences etc etc.

They are the scum of dublin who get arrested weekly and in some cases numerous times weekly, who took their opportunity to take it out on the Gardai.

"Normal" poeple did get involved but that was purely a characteristic of a mob scene, people who wouldnt normally take part in that kind of activity got involved purely because they could. they were not acting as individuals but as part of a mob.

Interesting to see if any "normal" people will post here.

dbnavan

sillysausage wrote:

No, I did not support the riots, because there was nothing to support.

I don’t mean to side track but this has really been bugging me - having read the coverage of the 'riots' in the national newspapers, I was appalled to see terms such as 'thug republicans', 'republican hooligans', 'scum bag republicans', 'thug sinn fein supporters' - used over and over again.

There was no 'belief' behind the riot as those rioting (or at least the majority) hold no loyalty to anything or anyone. The papers are right to describe the rioters as thugs, hooligans and scumbags, but they are wrong to associate them with any political party or movement.
To be honest, I feel such an association is to place to important and emphasis on them.
These 'scumbags' took advantage of a situation, and it just so happened that the 'love Ulster protest' was the situation that gave them the opening to run riot.
Had the protest have been against any other political movement, and it was publicised in the press that it was thought that not enough security planning had been put in place, and that it was most likely that chaos would rein, then these same scum bags would have rioted in this same way/

Basically, what I am saying is, they did not riot for a cause, or though loyalty, or through actual protest - they cared nothing for history, or actual political beliefs - they cared only for carnage, and that is exactly what they caused.

Silly no offence but this is more suited to one of the other boards, as stated in opening topic.

rubadub

dbnavan wrote:

I want to see the mentality behind this 'scum'. If you are that passionate about it you wont mind posting.

They are simply passionate about any violence, it had nothing to do with politics, it was a bunch of scumbags and vandals and thieves. Who in their right mind is going to say "it was right to burn out cars", nobody in their right mind.

have yet to see someone post that they think it was right to go in a kick the sh*t out of gardai and burn out cars so is there anyone here who actually was there for the riot.

I have yet to see somebody anywhere come up with a reasonable argument to kick the **** out of a grandmother and rape her. There are no reasonable arguments so you will be waiting a long time.

patzer117

what about people who supported the protest against the march and themselves would have tried to prevent the loyalists marching - thus distancing yourself from the rioters but saying you would happily have rioted legitimately? any of those? i know at least one in real life

connundrum

dbnavan wrote:

Silly no offence but this is more suited to one of the other boards, as stated in opening topic.

So only people who agree with the riots are allowed post? Gonna be a very short thread. Surely the point of these things is to open a debate type situation? What if someone does come on and say 'Yeah, I supported it - sure it was me breaking that BMW up!'?! Is no one allowed to say anything? Get your point staight in your head before you inflict it on anyone else :rolleyes:

Beruthiel

dbnavan wrote:

I knew someone would pick up on that.... but this is different to all other threads, all others give out about it. I want to see who supported it.

anyone with more than half a brain cell would not have supported this :rolleyes:

dbnavan

connundrum wrote:

So only people who agree with the riots are allowed post? Gonna be a very short thread. Surely the point of these things is to open a debate type situation? What if someone does come on and say 'Yeah, I supported it - sure it was me breaking that BMW up!'?! Is no one allowed to say anything? Get your point staight in your head before you inflict it on anyone else :rolleyes:

AS stated

PLEASE if you want to give out about them this is NOT the thread for you

Mods close it, this aint going the way it was planned I just shot myself in the foot ~ouch~

dbnavan

Beruthiel wrote:

anyone with more than half a brain cell would not have supported this :rolleyes:

I agree but must have been a fair few hundred half brain cells running around dublin last saturday

LegacyUser

dbnavan wrote:

AS stated

PLEASE if you want to give out about them this is NOT the thread for you

Mods close it, this aint going the way it was planned I just shot myself in the foot ~ouch~

Sure why not leave it open and allow people discuss the event?
I feel it is important to define the actual motive behind the rioting.

Was it an actual political protest? Or was it local scum bags taking advantage of a situation and causing carnage?

Beruthiel

sillysausage wrote:

Was it an actual political protest?

no it wasn't
if you went there to protest against orange men and actually felt strongly about it, why would you turn around and take it out on your fellow irish citizens, costing them millions in the process?

Or was it local scum bags taking advantage of a situation and causing carnage?

yup
there are quite a few brain dead scum living in ireland

dbnavan

sillysausage wrote:

Sure why not leave it open and allow people discuss the event?
I feel it is important to define the actual motive behind the rioting.

Was it an actual political protest? Or was it local scum bags taking advantage of a situation and causing carnage?

Glad to see I amnt the only one that thinks like this..

Hobbes

Chief--- wrote:

Even Charlie Bird who represents RTE.

I thought he was attacked because someone pointed at him and shouted "Orange Bastard".

somewhat on topic in all the threads I've only seen one person say the riots were justified. Think Earthman banned them?

popinfresh

I was for showing opposition to the loyalist protest. But like, a counter protest, what we saw was a bunch of skangers looting and looking for trouble. You'd be odd if you supported that.

Bob the Seducer

I was for a nice big counter protest too, however since I first heard about this march I've heard people threatening trouble so I was staying well away from the skanger "republican" expedition force which was out and about on the day helping themselves to the contents of Footlocker... republicans my arse.

Oh and can anyone verify this about Frazer the organiser of this whole LoveUlster thing, it was sent to me by someone I know, it's supposed to be an extract from an article in the Tribune

by Susan McKay, Sunday Tribune April 25, 2004

(Larry) Pratt is well known in the US, where he was forced to stand down as campaign chairman to republican presidential candidate, Pat Buchanan in 1996 because of his links with white supremacist groups. He admitted sharing a platform a with former Ku Klux Klan leader and an Aryan nation official. He has also been associated with the rightwing extremists of the US militia movement.

FAIR spokesman, Willie Frazer, escorted Pratt on his tour of South Armagh. Frazer is a well known Orangeman who has said loyalist paramilitaries "should never have been locked up." He defended members of the security forces who passed information to loyalists. His application for a personal protection weapon was turned down.

Fighting Irish

I do not support them but everyone knew it was coming, and if you didn't you were stupid. Its like that scene from Die Hard 3 where bruce willis walks through a black neighbourhood with a sign that says "i hate n******"

Whoever let the march take place is stupid

Hagar

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2054896630

Lump

Fighting Irish wrote:

I do not support them but everyone knew it was coming, and if you didn't you were stupid. Its like that scene from Die Hard 3 where bruce willis walks through a black neighbourhood with a sign that says "i hate n******"

Whoever let the march take place is stupid

Everyone knew that Dublin Scum bags were going to destroy their own capital city? I didn't know that it wascoming, and I think you'll find many others didn't either, am I stupid? Also, the march didn't take place, it was called off because the muppets were wrecking the joint, again THEIR own city, before the march took place. It was like free reign was given to all the shít heads in dublin/the country to come out and cause trouble. I say arm the police with rubber bullets, and lots of dogs and teach them a lesson, oh a water cannon would be good too.

I'm ashamed to be Irish.... in relation to all of this Riot malarky. Seriously! WRECKED THEIR OWN CITY!

John

Archytas

Lump wrote:

I'm ashamed to be Irish.... in relation to all of this Riot malarky. Seriously! WRECKED THEIR OWN CITY!

Really have to agree with ya there!!!

Everyone knew that Dublin Scum bags were going to destroy their own capital city? I didn'y know that, and I think you'll find many other didn't either.

They do it every day. Every single day of the week. They just all happened to be in the one place this time. The scum took the bus to the riots. People were txtin each other with places to meet and start trouble. Ye all have to understand that these people have no loyalty to their own city, their own country. They were not republican, they were not dubliners in any sense of the word other than the fact that they live in the county. I recognised people in the riot from my old school, from the areas I grew up in. They were just out to pretend they have an identity. Because they don't. They don't believe in anything except their own crap. And for that, Im ashamed. Ashamed and angry that I will be painted with the same brush. That all irish people will.

EOA_Mushy

Any one who says they do support the riots, did you take part?
(I hope and suspect not)

Im not sure if my college had some thing to do with the following failing to be added to a thread earlier or if it was deleted (I have no pm's so i figure the former)

The vast majority of Dublin people find the riots ridiculess, some continued shoping during the affair. The people involved where only in dublin for that pourpose. Along with some opertunistic scum bags & a few non-nationals. [Most likly the other countries equivelent of our scum bags....]

The "troubles" up north (caused by the people who named it [All of them]) has no relivence down here except posible revenue issues.

Why would any one care if a bunch of people walked down a street, in aid of what? Some thing that no one cares about.

The north, as a whole, brought the trouble on holiday for the day. And spread it to those who wanted it.

scojones

I support them kicking the crap out of Charlie Bird, he annoys me.

Fighting Irish

Lump wrote:

Everyone knew that Dublin Scum bags were going to destroy their own capital city? I didn't know that it wascoming, and I think you'll find many others didn't either, am I stupid? Also, the march didn't take place, it was called off because the muppets were wrecking the joint, again THEIR own city, before the march took place. It was like free reign was given to all the shít heads in dublin/the country to come out and cause trouble. I say arm the police with rubber bullets, and lots of dogs and teach them a lesson, oh a water cannon would be good too.

I'm ashamed to be Irish.... in relation to all of this Riot malarky. Seriously! WRECKED THEIR OWN CITY!

John

I agree they shouldn't have done what they did, but you could see it coming.
Ok i didn't see it coming in terms of what actually went on, burning cars, breaking up the city etc. But there was always gonna be trouble if this went ahead

arbeitsscheuer

As a democratic country, we respect freedom of expression. That means allowing people to march if they fulfil the criteria for a peaceful demonstration. You cannot, repeat CANNOT, just ban an event or protest simply because an opponent or opponents of it threaten violence. That would be giving in to coercion and physical blackmail.

Only fcuked up because of too few Riot Police on the streets and poor strategic command of the security services at the highest level.

Insane:
"Ah yeah, fcukin jaysis, we won ladz, the Unionist bahstards ran off ta der buses n fcuked off back Nort!"

...

"...ah fcukit I'm bored, let's wreck da gaff"

Mental.

jonny68

I supported and was present at the peaceful protest that took place but i was like any decent person appalled at the looting and attacking innocent shop workers,etc,people on here and elsewhere are too quick to believe everything that is printed in the gutter press,i was there on Saturday and for a start the Garda before the riot actually kicked off were seriously heavy handed with their batons,is it any wonder some people reacted by surging forward at the barriers,which in turn lead to some people throwing bottles and it escalated from there.

I supported the sit down protest but not the random violence from knackers,people are too quick to, as i said believe the garbage in the Herald/Star/Independent,etc,etc that so called "dissident Republicans" planned this in advance,bulls*it,this was NOT planned it just spiralled out of control,what started as a peaceful protest by genuine Republicans descended into all out anarchy with gangs of knackers running amok,these people have no place in Republicanism and anybody who thinks they were Republicans are deluded,only 1 person out of the 43 or so arrested had any links with a Republican organisation,that says it all, of course the gutter press will try and paint a different story,sensationalise everything as usual and those gullible enough to believe are worse fools.