One in the B****x for Lillie's Bordello

bombidol · 10-06-2002 01:14PM

Ah lads come on jesus, legal threats? things are getting a bit out of hand. relax, we all come here to chill out and get away from all the day to day hassle ****e, dont bring it in with you. Hairy doesnt like dodgy bouncers and he's had a few posts about it, let him work away, i know its the same thing as the last few on the subject but he still has the right to post em just as we have the right not to read them.

bomb

mayhem# · 10-06-2002 01:26PM

Originally posted by Hairy Homer

You don't have to share my 'view' (it would be a boring world if everybody did) but you disputed my stating of the facts, which is a different matter.

Now this is the nub of what I'm talking about. A bouncer can not simply refuse entry on arbitrary grounds. The courts frequently — see other posts — rule in favour of people who were refused entry for no other reason than the bouncer didn't like the look of him.

If you think asking why he was being refused constitutes being stroppy and justifies what happened to him then I'm afraid it's your arguments that are unhinged.

You come across as a thoroughly nasty little person, and I don't care what your nationality is nor do I care what nationality the bouncer is. For the record most of the guys whose behaviour bothers me are as Irish as I am.

I see you still cannot provide one shred of evidence to support your ludicrous satements....

TwoShedsJackson · 10-06-2002 02:25PM

Originally posted by shadygirl
I am Vincent and Pamela's daughter and I just thought I should come on and try and explain a few things, especially to this "Meyhem" person. Firstly, Da didn't try and headbutt anyone, nor did he walk up to the door with a beer-stained shirt as the papers reported. Mam, Dad and their two friends, Marilyn and Libero, decided to go their one night after a concert they had been to. For some unknown reason the bouncers wouldn't let them in. As I'm SURE anyone who has been refused from anywhere would, Da asked why they weren't being let in. the Yugoslav, Dino, was the bloke da asked and he wouldn't answer him so Da asked the bouncer behind him, Mulholland. Da did not call Dino an asshole because he's not a rowdy person (anyone can tell you that) and it takes an awful amount to get da going and for him to use language. Next of all, da's out on Grafton Street with that Yugoslav W****R kicking the head off him while some other W****R is holding my ma back. Several American tourists tried to stop them but they couldn't. Just because these pricks man the door doesn't give them a right to beat up anyone and everyone-they wouldn't get away with it if they were any joe on the street so giving them the name bouncer doesn't give them licence.

Gahahahahhaa - how old are ya? They should have been at home looking after you so, instead out on the pi$$. Irresponsible ba$tards.

Also the bouncer in question was Croatian, not Yugoslav. I advise you not to make that mistake if you meet him or anyone else from those two countries face to face. What with his Special Forces training and all.

Monty, why haven't you closed this $hite yet, usually you'd be on it like a light?

Hairy Homer · 10-06-2002 02:43PM

Originally posted by bombidol
Hairy doesnt like dodgy bouncers and he's had a few posts about it, let him work away, i know its the same thing as the last few on the subject but he still has the right to post em just as we have the right not to read them.

bomb

Well said (written) that man. (if i may be presumptuous)

WhiteWashMan · 10-06-2002 02:51PM

Originally posted by Hairy Homer

Well said (written) that man. (if i may be presumptuous)

yeh, mr sitting-on-the-fence boneidle is so on the ball there.
of course, he didnt actually agree or disagree with anything you said.
now, that youve bored us with another one of our bouncer stories, do you think you can leave quietly.
im sure at this time of the day theres lots of clubs with no bouncers on the door.
maybe you can get an inside view of the places the rest of us go at night, see how the other half live so to speak.....?

Hairy Homer · 10-06-2002 03:04PM

Originally posted by Shinji

See, there's something you made up right now, because you're actually talking rubbish.

I didn't actually call you a liar, I accused you of twisting facts and making things up

Well, I'm glad you cleared that one up.

'It's not a lie your honour, just something that I made up.'

OKaayyyy. With you so far.

such as the apparent link between passport controls and bouncers, christ knows where you dreamed THAT one up.

No, Shinji. That was a commentary, a matter of opinion derived from statement of facts. An argument, in other words, with facts as supporting evidence.

Or for example your twisting of the story about the Lawlors to make it look like this was a victory against bouncers, when er actually it's a victory against people who beat other people up, shock horror.

I know you don't like repetition so I won't bother restating my case again. Other than to say that an uncontrolled, unquestioned policy of allowing bouncers arbitrary control over who can or cannot enter a premises leads inevitably to incidents of that nature.

Well done to the Lawlors once again.

However, if you're so keen to make a complete idiot of yourself, please do sue me. I'll happily furnish any details of myself and my legal representation you require. I'll be sure to keep everyone here updated as to the progress of your case!

Don't be silly. I didn't name you and you didn't name me so legal action hardly applies. I was rather trying to contrast your hoity toity righteous indignation at my-allegedly-making things up with your cavalier approach to stating facts yourself.

Don't worry moderators. I dislike professional dealings with lawyers nearly as much as my professional dealings with bouncers. And for the same reason. It should be possible to live life without recourse to either.

Hairy Homer · 10-06-2002 03:38PM

Originally posted by WhiteWashMan

yeh, mr sitting-on-the-fence boneidle is so on the ball there.
of course, he didnt actually agree or disagree with anything you said.

True. He didn't. But he at least defended my right to say it, unlike some of the more precious posters around here. May I respectfully suggest that you take his advice? One way or the other.

Maybe I've got this whole boards thing wrong. I was originally under the impression (and do correct me if I'm mistaken) that it was a forum for discussion of topics on which people might have a common interest, while not necessarily agreeing with each other.

However, the outrage with which certain people have greeted the raising of some topics might lead one to conclude that it's a quasi-private club inhabited by a small number of people who all know each other intimately and resent intrusion by anyone from outside their milieu.

Which is it?

I think we should be told.

WhiteWashMan · 10-06-2002 03:43PM

Originally posted by Hairy Homer

True. He didn't. But he at least defended my right to say it, unlike some of the more precious posters around here. May I respectfully suggest that you take his advice? One way or the other.

Maybe I've got this whole boards thing wrong. I was originally under the impression (and do correct me if I'm mistaken) that it was a forum for discussion of topics on which people might have a common interest, while not necessarily agreeing with each other.

However, the outrage with which certain people have greeted the raising of some topics might lead one to conclude that it's a quasi-private club inhabited by a small number of people who all know each other intimately and resent intrusion by anyone from outside their milieu.

Which is it?

I think we should be told.

just to be pedantic
actually i never said you couldnt post here.
i just said you always post the same topic.....

you have admitted that we dont like repatition.....

seamus · 10-06-2002 03:48PM

Originally posted by Hairy Homer
However, the outrage with which certain people have greeted the raising of some topics might lead one to conclude that it's a quasi-private club inhabited by a small number of people who all know each other intimately and resent intrusion by anyone from outside their milieu.

Which is it?

I think we should be told.

This always seems to appear when some of the more 'seasoned' members flame people and disagree with their opinions. If it was all newbies attacking your opinions, you wouldn't be able to say this. It's just that they've seen this exact type of thread before before and they're sick of it. I tend not to read them after a day or two.

Bottom line here - We always need bouncers, but some are out of control. You can't disagree with that.

Just for clarification:

lie2 Pronunciation Key (l)
n.
A false statement deliberately presented as being true; a falsehood.
Something meant to deceive or give a wrong impression.

Therefore there is a difference between lying and making stuff up:

Lying - deliberately presenting facts which you know to be false.

Making stuff up - Fabricating facts or stories which may or may not be false.

Hairy Homer · 10-06-2002 04:02PM

Originally posted by WhiteWashMan

just to be pedantic
actually i never said you couldnt post here.
i just said you always post the same topic.....

That is simply not true. I'm sure you know how to find my posts on other topics. I found some of yours. (Such as that which said we should keep Ian Harte in the Irish team... now that really is evidence of a deranged mind :-))

you have admitted that we dont like repatition.....

We, eh? You seem to be confirming my suspicions. That was in reply to Shinji. Not you.

WhiteWashMan · 10-06-2002 04:39PM

Originally posted by Hairy Homer

That is simply not true. I'm sure you know how to find my posts on other topics. I found some of yours. (Such as that which said we should keep Ian Harte in the Irish team... now that really is evidence of a deranged mind :-))

We, eh? You seem to be confirming my suspicions. That was in reply to Shinji. Not you.

um, im not sure why i should go and search for your posts?
are you trying to tell me that they are worth reading?

becuase seriously, the only things i can remember are these bouncer topics.

ian harte is the best free taker we have. as good as if not better than beckham.

i never said it was a reply to me, i mearly said you admitted to s not liking your repetition....

darthmise · 10-06-2002 04:41PM

Originally posted by mayhem#

I see you still cannot provide one shred of evidence to support your ludicrous satements....

Ah..., the courts found in favour of the couple so i think if the facts are good enough for the court you can pretty much put it in your pipe and smoke it.

And if you have something to say other than throwing childish insults about like the pup you probably are, then lets here it.

Otherwise **** off and be a troubled angst-ridden teen somewhere else.

Hairy Homer.., Fair points, now change the record, or someone lock this thread.

Monty - the one and only · 10-06-2002 04:44PM

I wanted to give the topic a chance, god knows why...

Im killing it now before another flamewar starts

One in the B****x for Lillie's Bordello

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