Smoking

Just The One · 20-09-2005 03:31PM #1

So do ya? Did ya?

have a look at this site.... not for the faint hearted

http://www.smokingsucks.ca/gross_out/index.html

http://www.tobaccofacts.info/

MorningStar · 20-09-2005 03:45PM

Nothing like a neutral website to give you the facts. :rolleyes:

Smoking is bad OK. Everybody gets that to talk down at people in this manner is pointless. It might work with children but it might not last to stop them smoking forever.

I trust this site in the same manner I trust a tabbaco companies website.

TomTom · 20-09-2005 03:48PM

I do and have done for years. to be honest those sites show nothing i have not already read about or seen before.
I would like to quit but thats easier said than done.

WellyJ · 20-09-2005 03:51PM

I know a lot of people who smoke and although its not someting im in any way fond of, I certainly havent heard of any of them getting gangrene from it.

Its the same as anything. Those sites are just propaganda. I woudnt read anything into that.

R0ot · 20-09-2005 03:51PM

Did for like a year when i was 10, glad i did though cause now i hate the ****ing sight of them, cant stand the ash either, which is a bit of a pain in the ass at my brothers with cigarette ash all in the keyboard and stuff *yuck* disgusting it is.

Sleipnir · 20-09-2005 03:54PM

Scare tactics never work, in fact it usually only makes the smoker desire a cigarette even more.
Even the cigarette companies know this and actually use it in their advertising.
Anyone remember the Venus Fly Trap ad?
Or the one with the knot in the silk rope?

20-09-2005 04:03PM

Just The One wrote:

So do ya? Did ya?

have a look at this site.... not for the faint hearted

http://www.tobaccofacts.info/

http://www.smokingsucks.ca/gross_out/index.html

Blah smoking's bad, blah
It's gonna kill us all etc.
At the end of the day we are never ever gonna agree. Ever

Mossy Monk · 20-09-2005 04:04PM

20-09-2005 04:11PM

hee hee

I wholeheartedly agree monk

Kingp35 · 20-09-2005 04:36PM

Mossy Monk wrote:

smoker by any chance?

Sam Vimes · 20-09-2005 04:45PM

how bout this? instead of giving philip morris your money, you all give me 20-30 euro a week for a few years. each day ill come to your house and put a tiny amount of arsenic in your tea, more and more each time until you finally die. that way you get to kill yourself without the yellow hands and bad breath, and i make millions. everybody wins

20-09-2005 04:58PM

You know Commander, you could really do with reading this. Its a report by a psychologist on why people smoke. And believe it or not, it's not just because we are addicted to nicotine. It's very enlightening for non smokers. You might understand us a bit more.

dlofnep · 20-09-2005 05:01PM

I'm one of the few who actually quit smoking and stayed off them. Smoking is stupid.. Get through the first 2 weeks off of them and it's a bit of willpower here and there after it.

ferdi · 20-09-2005 05:06PM

/lights up

Gazza22 · 20-09-2005 05:28PM

No i don't smoke, never have, never will...

Just don't get why people do

WellyJ · 20-09-2005 05:48PM

Papa Smut wrote:

You know Commander, you could really do with reading this. Its a report by a psychologist on why people smoke. And believe it or not, it's not just because we are addicted to nicotine. It's very enlightening for non smokers. You might understand us a bit more.

That report is from 1947, i think people these days are a lot more knowledgeable about the bad side to smoking.

Jimi-Spandex · 20-09-2005 05:53PM

Just The One wrote:

So do ya? Did ya?

have a look at this site.... not for the faint hearted

http://www.smokingsucks.ca/gross_out/index.html

http://www.tobaccofacts.info/

Piss off.

Mossy Monk · 20-09-2005 06:30PM

Kingp35 wrote:

smoker by any chance?

oh dear. ex smoker, thanks for asking

20-09-2005 06:34PM

WellyJ wrote:

That report is from 1947, i think people these days are a lot more knowledgeable about the bad side to smoking.

Yes but the reasons behind it are still the same. We know how bad it is, I'm just trying to explain why we still smoke.

rubadub · 20-09-2005 06:43PM

That report is a piss-take right?

Frequently, our respondents remarked that smoking cigaretees is like being with a friend. Said one, "When I lean back and light my cigarette and see the glow in the dark, I am not alone any more...."

I have skimmed through it and it is hilarious, like one of those "women belong in the home" things from the 50's, "know your place women"

Dizzyblabla · 20-09-2005 06:52PM

Did anyone see Oprah today? They showed a lung of a smoker and of a non-smoker... needless to say, it was kinda gross!
I still sparked up when I got outside the door though!

WellyJ · 20-09-2005 06:52PM

Papa Smut wrote:

Yes but the reasons behind it are still the same. We know how bad it is, I'm just trying to explain why we still smoke.

"Some of the appeals of a lighted cigarette derive from the appeals of fire in general. Fire is the symbol of life, and the idea of fire is surrounded by much superstition. In this connection, it is interesting to note that traces of superstition can be seen in the smoking habits of modern man. For instance some people never will light three cigarettes on one match. It is said that this superstition is based on experiences during World War I."

Ah yes, what a great reason.....

I can picture Troy McLure reading that aloud

Dinner · 20-09-2005 06:52PM

Papa Smut wrote:

You know Commander, you could really do with reading this. Its a report by a psychologist on why people smoke.

Quite the site. Not enlightening at all, just funny.

I dont smoke, never have and never will. I think its stupid and pointless and if a smoker ever comes with out and tries to justify it by saying "I like looking at the smoke" or "I like looking at the match lighting" or any other of those fairly pathetic excuses I'll just laugh at them.

Gazza22 · 20-09-2005 06:54PM

WellyJ wrote:

That report is from 1947, i think people these days are a lot more knowledgeable about the bad side to smoking.

Agreed...it's stupidity to smoke let alone support an arguement with a article from over 5 decades ago. It was in that time, that the cigarette companies began marketing cigarettes. There was a big spectacle made of cigarettes and how they were so 'cool', there was hardly any negativity towards them and no warnings.

Though the cigarette companies knew themselves that they were marketing an unethical product but this was kept quiet...why would they say anything bad? The money was rolling in and governments were blinded by short term high tax gains from cigarettes to just ban them completely, but long term they paid more for the medical expenses. People were in a frenzy to buy shares in these companies.

But it's all changed now, there is no excuse to be smoking, it's negative effects and risks are in your face. Imo It won't be too long before they are just eradicated, even tobacco companies know this. They invest their profits in other companies now instead of re-investing their profits because they know in the future, they will no longer get away with it.

To answer a few of those ingenius 'arguements' (lol) why smoking is good...

Smoking is Fun

Yeah if you deem suicide fun...

Smoking is a Reward

Sure, you pump money into smoking and in the end you get a lovely cancer package

Smoking is Oral Pleasure

Eh, oral cancer?...Oral diseases?

The Cigarette -- A Modern Hourglass

Yeah counting down to your grave...

Smoking Helps Me Think

Does it really? I would have thought it killed brain cells..meh

I could go on for ever...but i won't
Morale of story, don't smoke
/Rant over

Flukey · 20-09-2005 06:56PM

I don't smoke, except passively. I've got more sense. It doesn't take a genius to work out that it is bad for you. After all, would you stick your head up a smokey chimney?

Nightwish · 20-09-2005 06:56PM

smoking is disgusting and I hate being around smokers.The smell and the smoke choking up the air is just horrible. The smoking ban was one of the few admirable things this Government has done for us.

Mossy Monk · 20-09-2005 07:04PM

gazza22 wrote:

Does it really? I would have thought it killed brain cells

careful you dont ever sneeze or drink
i hear they kill brain cells too

a smoker will not give up by listening to the moral police

Gazza22 · 20-09-2005 07:12PM

Mossy Monk wrote:

careful you dont ever sneeze or drink
i hear they kill brain cells too

a smoker will not give up by listening to the moral police

Sneezing can't be helped...it's a natural reaction in your body

Drink doesn't kill brain cells, nerve cells yes

Oh and i know, us moral police will undoubtedly be ignored, at the end of the day it must come from the smoker to realize their stupidity

lazylad · 20-09-2005 09:26PM

gazza22 wrote:

Sneezing can't be helped...it's a natural reaction in your body

Drink doesn't kill brain cells, nerve cells yes

Oh and i know, us moral police will undoubtedly be ignored, at the end of the day it must come from the smoker to realize their stupidity

Why do you care about it so much? Why you so aggressive and in my last post you said i was talking rtrd talk.

Well I hope you can see my picture I drew of you. I had to make pic smaller but i hope you see his head, i think its a bo**x but i dont know.

deisedevil · 20-09-2005 09:43PM

lazylad wrote:

Why do you care about it so much? Why you so aggressive and in my last post you said i was talking rtrd talk.

Well I hope you can see my picture I drew of you. I had to make pic smaller but i hope you see his head, i think its a bo**x but i dont know.

Well if ya weren't talking rtrd last time ya def are now!!!

Nice pic though, keep up the good work, you could make a career with that.

Nightwish · 20-09-2005 10:00PM

what the hell was that picture about? the guy was only trying to enlighten you to the negative aspects of smoking. All that pleasure that each cigarette gives you comes at a price, and I'm not talking money. You are damaging your body in uncountable ways. You are at risk from Cancer (14 times more likely to die from cancer) as each cigarette has at least 60 carcinogenic chemicals-arsenic, carbon monoxide, formaldehyde etc. You are also putting yourself at a significant risk of a stroke, emphysema (uncurable), high blood pressure. You are also twice as likely to die from a heart attack. So don't lash out in a childish immature way at people who are only trying to open your eyes to the reality of what you are doing to yourself

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