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Ganja Etiquette

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,310 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Woooooot :eek: :confused: . Please tell me you dont smoke the seeds :confused: .
    A bag of weed with no seeds won't get you stoned. A bag with seeds will. Something to do with the male / female plant thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,488 ✭✭✭Goodshape


    the_syco wrote:
    A bag of weed with no seeds won't get you stoned. A bag with seeds will. Something to do with the male / female plant thing.
    That's not true at all. It's just bad weed you're getting tbh.

    The really good sticky green stuff will not generally have seeds in it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 162 ✭✭miss_gonzo


    there are no rules

    thats such a stupid list


    glad i stopped smoking.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,240 ✭✭✭Endurance Man


    That's not true at all. It's just bad weed you're getting tbh.

    The really good sticky green stuff will not generally have seeds in it.
    Today 20:29

    Ye, a bud with a lot of seeds is generally regarded as crap where i come from :), but then a think different plants have different characterstics. Just dont smoke those seeds :eek: , i m8 of mine was really desperate once, so he crushed a huge section of seeds, did nothing :rolleyes: .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,909 ✭✭✭✭Wertz


    the_syco wrote:
    A bag of weed with no seeds won't get you stoned. A bag with seeds will. Something to do with the male / female plant thing.


    Sorry, that's rubbish. Cultivators will purposely keep male plants away from female planst to stop the females getting pollinated and producing seeds...a plant producing seeds puts all it's resources into that, instead of going to "bud" and producing the resin we all so covet (well most of us).
    Any weed you get including seeds is nowhere near as high in THC or other active ingredients as weed without them....avoid.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,387 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    PORNAPSTER wrote:
    Hash = Overrated.

    Soapbar is shlte, but have you ever actually smoked proper bubble hash. You really have to know a grower to get real proper hash. 1/2 a pinhead of real hash will have you destroyed nicely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,835 ✭✭✭StickyMcGinty


    smoke the seeds if you never want to have any kids lads, the seeds make you infertile!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,387 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    the_syco wrote:
    A bag of weed with no seeds won't get you stoned. A bag with seeds will. Something to do with the male / female plant thing.

    It would be truer to say the opposite, but still wrong. Female plants are the ones you want to grow, and will produce seed if pollinated, if not pollinated they will produce more resin and THC in the later flowering stages and get very potent.
    Seeds mean it was grown wild or by an inexperienced grower who allowed his plants to pollinate. The last 2 times I was in holland I never got a single seed in the crystal rich grass I got. 10 years bag I got seeds in about 50% of the grass there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,387 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    VinnyL wrote:
    smoke the seeds if you never want to have any kids lads, the seeds make you infertile!
    No, plant them in the flower pots outside your local garda station or on your local TD's lawn.

    Originally Posted by mavericks
    Stoners and people who bang on about smoking weed are easily some of the most boring people on the planet
    Because they are sitting there quietly, rather than dancing around screaming in a staggering blackout with their flute hanging out wearing a lampshade as a hat?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,207 ✭✭✭meditraitor


    rubadub wrote:
    , rather than dancing around screaming in a staggering blackout with their flute hanging out wearing a lampshade as a hat?

    Have we met?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,622 ✭✭✭Catsmokinpot


    the_syco wrote:
    A bag of weed with no seeds won't get you stoned. A bag with seeds will. Something to do with the male / female plant thing.
    lol someones gettin ripped with some nasty homegrown stuff! propper bud needs to be sticky big buds no seed not much leaves and stink to high heavens, seeds mean who ever decided to try home growing had a male plant in the mix and the buds were pollinated :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 634 ✭✭✭AB03


    At the end of the day, stoners are more passive, easier going, nicer to talk to and more of a laugh than locked idiots. Period.
    You will never find a stoner and his mates who trek down to the garage at 1am on a saturday night looking for a scrap, but if they happen to come across a bunch of locked idiots, trouble could quite easily ensue. Simple as.

    About all the rules things, they are definately american rules, has the yank stamp all over it.
    The rules we abide by are, no askin for a joint (unless nescessary, which is never) + the person who rolled it, smokes it.

    Unfortunately, we get the worst of the worst pot in europe, literally. Not many places get the crap soap bar we are accustomed to here.
    I blame it all on gilligan the greedy fecker. Back in the 80s when there was very little pot around, and that which was around, was black leb or moroccan. Gilligan obviously got in contact with some turks who were banging out crap soap for next to nothing and seized the opportunity. We all then took it for granted that this *was* hash/weed/cannabis and there wasnt much else better, cept the weed in amsterdam and thus since then, we've been shafted because time after time, the people bringing in the tons dont care, because they make the dollar anyway, cos it gets sold one way or another. If the people buying keys in the hundreds were to say they wanted something better and would pay slightly extra for it, then the people selling the tons would have to listen. Of course, this would take a concerted effort on behalf of some of the bigger dealers around the city/country, which is very difficult as only the person selling the ton knows all his own contacts, the contacts obviously never come face to face idividually (well, its rare).
    At the end of the day, I cant see the soapbar situation changing, except by the two following methods :

    The nigerian communities are bringing lots of good weed with them, god knows how its getting here, but it is. If they were to infiltrate the market, we could all be smoking quality ganja within a year, but they'd have to bring a lot of firepower to back themselves up as the irish dealers would not stand for it and turf wars would happen.
    This will happen eventually when the next generation of nigerian/african dealers grow up. There will be turf wars over the sale of crack and weed in certain areas, white on black, but not in any way race oriented, just money I would imagine.

    Second way, and Im extremelly glad this is starting to be the case, people are starting to grow their own. We can all be smoking top class primo ****in weed, if we grow it. I know its succesful and completely viable (Im not going to say how I know, but I do), even to the person who only wants to grow 1 plant and gain 1 oz every 2 months or so. It is the way forward for the non commercial smoker (and the commercial growers alike). I urge anyone reading this thread to check the forums in the following sites:

    www.overgrow.com
    www.marijuana.com

    Theres plenty more out there, but they're a good start.
    You wont regret at least looking into the subject, believe me.




    Say no to soapbar!
    Its the worst muck on the planet and we're nearly the only ones who put up with it. Its filled with all sorts of filler, shoe polish, wax, anything and everything you do not want to smoke, its in there. Its put severe pressure on my lungs over the years and I hate the fact that, as a cannabis smoker, its the only option I had, until recently.
    I urge you all to change over aswell. Stop smoking the ****, put the soap dealers out of business and maybe then we can get some good stuff from them. Even some nice dark bubbly hash from leb or morocco would be the business.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 634 ✭✭✭AB03


    Yeah, and that thing about the weed with seeds being stronger,

    YOU ARE GETTING RIPPED BUDDY!!!
    AHHAHHHAHA!!

    Biggest load of crap I ever heard. Its the complete opposite.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 273 ✭✭Sifo


    stoners are generally more laid back, drunken louts are the ones who usually sh*te on all night about the women they pulled and the fights theyve had, i like getting a good drunk on me too (female of course aye aye!! - see thats a stoner comment, mid-sentence just come out with a rant, i'm not even stoned atm) anyhoo, all those rules are grand if thats what ya wanna go by, but not everyone will agree, i guess it comes down to the group you get high with... we generally just pass them around to the left, but if theyve already got one pass it to the right, either ways fine, no need to get uptight about it!!!

    though shall not covet thy neighbours spliff!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,835 ✭✭✭StickyMcGinty


    if you have nice lump a soap bar handy, and dont wanna smoke camel sh1t, you can clean it up. check it out on the www.wellcoolstuff.com forums, the guide to cleansing soapbar. you get a nice smoke out of it, but a bit less than when you started. lovely smoke though!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,799 ✭✭✭Tha Gopher


    I think we are going a bit overboard on this whole hash=peace and love for all thing, as if its some magical thing that makes all users passive.

    Lets face it, 98% of scumbags smoke the stuff. Ecstasy may make you all cool and non confrontational, but most scumbags use it regularly too (although coke is more popular by now, but thats not really relevant since we know how that affects some people)

    Not to down on anything, I smoke regularly and do yokes occasionally, but its just not as if all stoners are peace lovin


    On a similiar note, I always laugh whenever I see one of the thrice daily "dirty scumbags" threads, nd some lad who on a thread like this advocates hash goes into a rant against the tracksuit wearing community of Dublin
    If he despises criminals so much, quit smoking hash, as your most probably lining the pockets of grown up schwars who import it by the truckload.
    Clowns


    Me, as for the whole lining the pockets of criminal gangs reason many legalise it heads espouse, tbh with the price of housing nowadays good luck to whoevers making money in it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,915 ✭✭✭StupidLikeAFox


    AB03 wrote:
    At the end of the day, stoners are more passive, easier going, nicer to talk to and more of a laugh than locked idiots
    Coz clearly someone is either a stoner or a locked idiot, there are no in betweens


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,387 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    lol someones gettin ripped with some nasty homegrown stuff! (
    Usually stuff with seeds is not home grown, more likely highly compressed mexican or african ditchweed.
    Any homegrower who allows there plant to seed is an idiot who are wasting their time and risking the law for nothing. If you are going to grow at least do it right, and buy decent seeds too, I know scumbags who admitted putting hemp seed from pet shops in their ditch weed to make it weigh more, do not presume the seed in a bag of weed will produce the same high. You can buy feminized seeds which cut out a lot of hassle, well worth the extra cost. Don't skip on growing.

    You can extract oil (then class A) from soapbar using butane
    check the hashish section at www.overgrow.com


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 752 ✭✭✭Spicy Lauren


    Lads, will ya stop arguing and pass that J over this way?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 304 ✭✭MadPatrick


    I'm actually pretty good on those rules, but if you have a girlfriend on your right you have to break the left hand passing rule.
    Soapbar is utter ****, I tried weed once and paid too much for it and it wasn't any better than hash, but then I went to Oz and the weed over there was super, then Thailand which was even better. Really sticky = really good.
    I'm in Scotland now and the weed is good here but alot of people, especially Spanish have real proper hash, you don't even have to burn it, it just crumbles. Thats the business, but I prefer weed.
    Most kind of pot doesn't burn by itself so you have to put in tobacco, and you get stoned anyway. It is cleaner without though.
    And if someone doesn't pass, ask them if they were eating chicken. Got that off some Spanish people, thought it was quiet clever.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 634 ✭✭✭AB03


    ColHol wrote:
    Coz clearly someone is either a stoner or a locked idiot, there are no in betweens

    Exactly, its black and white and theres no grey. How you pulled that from my post is beyond me. Im using the extremes, ie : the ones you would most likely take note of from both camps. Of course there are people who can behave responsibly with drink on them (like me for example) and then there are those who smoke hash or weed recreationally (like me aswell) without being a complete stoner with no job etc.
    Why is there always a misconception that people are stereotyping and generalising on this board, maybe some people are but Im not, certaintely not in the case anyhow.

    And as for the hash = peace and love for all. Obviously thats not how it is and the boys (or the scumbags as referred to by most boards members) do smoke ****loads of hash in general. But my point still stands, if you were to encounter the boyz (scumbags) at a garage some night whilst paying for petrol or whatever (you being a 3rd party observer), I garuntee you would be far more intimitated if they were locked rather than stoned. I know cos I hung around with the boyz for years and I was one of em, when we were locked, we caused trouble, when we were stoned, we just wanted somewhere warm to smoke hash and go to the shop for crap to eat every so often, gave no hassle to nobody unless they looked for it and even then we rarely even bothered. Just walked around the park etc laughing and slaggin, nothing more. Hash does in general calm a lot of people down, especially the so called scum of the city (in which most are far from the stereotype, but thats another discussion).

    Good example being a brother of a mate of mine. Absolute lunatic before he smoked pot, nut job. Used to hate seeing the fecker cos we didnt get on and we'd always end up scrapping. When he got to the age of getting locked he got 10 times worse, especially when they moved to kilkenny. He hung around with all the travellers and absolute scum (and when I say scum, it means something, unlike the idiots on this site who wouldnt know real scum if they seen it), robbed cars, people, whatever, feared young fella altogether.
    Started smoking hash about 3 years ago and now hes one the most down to earth sound lads I know. I consider him and his brother 2 of my closest and best mates and it was only thru the hash that I could even talk to this lad.
    I dunno, I reckon in general cannabis does calm people down and in general make them more relaxed and easy to deal with, not just when stoned. Problems arise when people smoke too much (especially too much soap + too much really good stuff) and start getting paranoid and seriously addicted to the stuff (as are many of the boyz, including myself - addicted that is), the uneducated then face many problems.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,387 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    MadPatrick wrote:
    especially Spanish have real proper hash, you don't even have to burn it, it just crumbles.
    Proper hash is either pliable or cured rock hard resin. You should be able to get totally ruined on a tiny amount. It should be costing you about €100 a gram and is rarer than hens teeth. Proper hash is made by shaking the trichomes (sticky white crystals) off buds and trim leaves, then it is compressed. It turns brown soon after the cells are broken by compression. You will only really get it from growers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,622 ✭✭✭Catsmokinpot


    Tha Gopher wrote:
    I think we are going a bit overboard on this whole hash=peace and love for all thing, as if its some magical thing that makes all users passive.

    Lets face it, 98% of scumbags smoke the stuff. Ecstasy may make you all cool and non confrontational, but most scumbags use it regularly too (although coke is more popular by now, but thats not really relevant since we know how that affects some people)

    Not to down on anything, I smoke regularly and do yokes occasionally, but its just not as if all stoners are peace lovin


    On a similiar note, I always laugh whenever I see one of the thrice daily "dirty scumbags" threads, nd some lad who on a thread like this advocates hash goes into a rant against the tracksuit wearing community of Dublin
    If he despises criminals so much, quit smoking hash, as your most probably lining the pockets of grown up schwars who import it by the truckload.
    Clowns


    Me, as for the whole lining the pockets of criminal gangs reason many legalise it heads espouse, tbh with the price of housing nowadays good luck to whoevers making money in it.
    thanks for the valuable contribution there mate...... i know alot of scum smoke it also alot of scum watch television so whats ur point? substantial amount of people smoke. infact the last count was 80% of the population have tried it. where i work (doing technical support)everyone smokes. i dont have a friend who doesnt accept for one and hes not against it. oh yeah and the funny thing is none of them are scumbags and none of them are violent at all.....

    and its a fact that hash does make you relaxed and more open to things, one side effect is that it can make you paranoid if you let it but ur hardly going to take a knife to someone in a fit of rage...
    rubadub wrote:
    Usually stuff with seeds is not home grown, more likely highly compressed mexican or african ditchweed.
    Any homegrower who allows there plant to seed is an idiot who are wasting their time and risking the law for nothing. If you are going to grow at least do it right, and buy decent seeds too, I know scumbags who admitted putting hemp seed from pet shops in their ditch weed to make it weigh more, do not presume the seed in a bag of weed will produce the same high. You can buy feminized seeds which cut out a lot of hassle, well worth the extra cost. Don't skip on growing.

    You can extract oil (then class A) from soapbar using butane
    check the hashish section at www.overgrow.com
    ah yeah i know but i have gotten homegrown with seeds in it..... and yes they were idiots that grew it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,740 ✭✭✭Naos


    MadPatrick wrote:
    Spanish have real proper hash, you don't even have to burn it, it just crumbles.

    This is called Pollen afaik. Brown/Yellow stuff that can bend (try it :D)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,387 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    Mear wrote:
    This is called Pollen afaik. Brown/Yellow stuff that can bend (try it :D)
    My mate gets it all the time, it is marginally more potent than normal soapbar. it crumbles easily due to the lack of resin in it, and high leaf content. Still better than stuff sticking together due to tar being added...

    Check out this link, has a nice picture of what real hash looks like when burning, it bubbles like oil.
    http://www.bubblebag.com/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,310 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    sticky big buds no seed
    Sorry, got the seeds and buds mixd up.

    =-=

    People who smoke and drink will be paranoid scumbags looking for a fight.

    =-=

    Stoners -v- Alcho's. Stoner parent will be quite useless. An alcho parent will also be useless, but may beat you with a big stick.

    =-=

    A scumbag is a scumbag no matter what they smoke, where they come from, or how many degree's they have. A scumbag will look for fights.

    =-=

    Hash will make you stoned (intense). Grass will make you high (not intense).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,835 ✭✭✭StickyMcGinty


    grass gets you wasted, you still turn in to a lazy bastard whether or not its soapbar or the finest crystal weed


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,622 ✭✭✭Catsmokinpot


    rubadub wrote:
    Proper hash is either pliable or cured rock hard resin. You should be able to get totally ruined on a tiny amount. It should be costing you about €100 a gram and is rarer than hens teeth. Proper hash is made by shaking the trichomes (sticky white crystals) off buds and trim leaves, then it is compressed. It turns brown soon after the cells are broken by compression. You will only really get it from growers.
    never seen hash costing more than €18 a gram twas the best stuff i got appart from pure resin, this hash was called "the Isolator" got it in amsterdam. it got six of us stoned out of our trees on one joint! and i was mangled. doubt anyone in their right mind would charge 100 a gram i know i wouldnt pay for it. thats a 28th of an ounce and is bloody highway robbery!
    VinnyL wrote:
    grass gets you wasted, you still turn in to a lazy bastard whether or not its soapbar or the finest crystal weed
    theirs two different strains indica and sativa, indica gives ya the heavy ring a pizza stay indoors at all costs buzz, and sativa gives you the high as a kite lets go on a walk about and laugh at sh1t buzz, but at the end of the day its your choice as to weather anything gets done or not hash may influence your choices but it doesnt tell you to be lazy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,387 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    VinnyL wrote:
    grass gets you wasted, you still turn in to a lazy bastard whether or not its soapbar or the finest crystal weed

    The high mainly depends on the ratios between THC and CBD. Plants picked early have high THC and low CBD resulting in an "up high", if plants are picked too late (inexperienced growers, and commercial outdoor harvests) they give the stoned "couch lock" effect.
    cannabis sativa plants (rather than cannabis indicas) have high THC to CBD ratios, and are more sought after by connoisseurs. They give lower yeilds so are more expensive. You can tell maturity by examining your buds under a microscope, if the crystals are white it will give and up high/laughy/giddy, brown and dark crystals are mature and give you couch-lock/mongolised.

    Some coffeeshops in holland provide microscopes to examine the bud before buying.

    Most soapbar weed growers will overmature the plants for a higher yeild and due to ignorance, so it will mongolise you.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,122 ✭✭✭LadyJ


    You guys are bogarting good thread space!


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