God Damn Europe! (WEEE Tax)

crazymonkey · 10-08-2005 02:43PM

Kernel wrote:

I would have thought it was because of the logistics involved, have few houses scattered about miles apart etc.. having to have a lorry drive from one to the other. In the capital we have streets and roads and everything for years now!

i know you what u have, sure did we have to build them for you,

Kingsize · 10-08-2005 02:46PM

Dats Riiite :d

Doper Than U · 10-08-2005 02:46PM

Someone's got to get deal with this sh*t, and it can't be done for free. I don't have a problem paying taxes, that's how we are able to run the country. I do have a problem with how our taxes are being spent. The Luas? More roads and toll bridges that have done nothing to alleviate the traffic problem? A bullsh*t spike in the middle of O'Connell St? What a pant load.

Kingsize · 10-08-2005 02:52PM

Seriously off topic but even if we tarmac'ed the entire country there would be a traffic problem, the problem is too many cars not too litle roads. but fair point nonetheless,i just find it weird that people complain about stuff like the luas as a waste of cash yet nobody bats an eyelid at(for example) the payroll -vs- value for money in RTE.

dynasty crew · 10-08-2005 03:19PM

I don't understand why people are supporting paying extra taxes for something that could be provided for free if the government weren't such wasters with their budgets. I don't think anyone would support an extra €20 being taken from your pay cheque every week but if they fool you into thinking it's for recycling, some guys think it's acceptable.

Kernel wrote:

I would have thought it was because of the logistics involved, have few houses scattered about miles apart etc.. having to have a lorry drive from one to the other. In the capital we have streets and roads and everything for years now!

You sound like a typical dublin knob, thinking they're better than the rest of the country, must be cos dublin's such a ****hole or something?? (and i do live in dublin at the minute so i know the difference between dublin and outside of dublin - more than most dubs like yourself).

MorningStar · 10-08-2005 03:41PM

dynasty crew wrote:

I don't understand why people are supporting paying extra taxes for something that could be provided for free if the government weren't such wasters with their budgets..

Things to note it isn't a tax it is a charge for a service for a requirement of your item.

Secondly the government are mostely not from Dublin.

Thirdly, if you don't like the people in Dublin go home.

Fourthly you will never know what it is like to be from Dublin and watch people come up and do nothing but complian about it. The chip on Dubliners' shoulders is passed from people like you. Your insight is a bogger in Dublin and nothing more.

Kingsize · 10-08-2005 03:45PM

i think in an ideal world if the government could manage their budgets properly most people would still prefer free healthcare, public transport & childcare ahead of refuse collection/recycling . At present or even if we could choose , quite frankly we dont deserve free refuse collection or recycling beccause on the whole we're pigs.
by the way i agree with evrything morningstar just said there the reason Dublin is a sh-it hole is partly due to the money grubbing gombeen men who run or ran this country most of whom were/ are from outside dublin.

DonkeyStyle \o/ · 10-08-2005 04:14PM

<sleepys law>
Mayor Quimby: "There's a thousand dollar 'leaving town' tax..."
Director: "*Sigh*"
</sleepys law>

Sleepy · 10-08-2005 04:21PM

So the people creating the cost of disposal to the state are going to have to pay the bill instead of paying it out of everyone's pocket? How dreadfully unfair :rolleyes:

MorningStar · 10-08-2005 04:26PM

Kingsize wrote:

... money grubbing gombeen men who run or ran this country most of whom were/ are from outside dublin...

At least when we do it we do it in a grand style like and are the best at it like old Charlie

He owned a shagging island for God sake!

Kingsize · 10-08-2005 04:36PM

i like the concept of a "shagging island"as in an island where one would take ones bird & shag her, im not quite sure if thats what you meant but im pretty sure thats what he used the damn island for anyway!

!

Sleepy · 10-08-2005 04:48PM

MorningStar wrote:

Thirdly, if you don't like the people in Dublin go home.

This is the stupidest argument put forward by Dubs when their city is criticised. Most people don't have a choice about moving to Dublin. You can either move up to get a job or you can go on the dole. Thanks to incompetent governence over decades, the vast majority of employment has been centred on Dublin which quite obviously can't handle the numbers of people required to fill these jobs

Fourthly you will never know what it is like to be from Dublin and watch people come up and do nothing but complian about it. The chip on Dubliners' shoulders is passed from people like you. Your insight is a bogger in Dublin and nothing more.

A "bogger in Dublin" has a better insight than a Dub in Dublin because they've experienced something else and can therefore draw comparisons and rate it against something else. A lot more than can be said for a random "Anto" who's never put "his foot outside of inchicore".

Dublin is a ****hole. It has some good points but unfortunately the bad outweigh them, and one of the biggest bad points is the unbelievable arrogance and chip on the shoulder of your average born and bred Dubliner.

Kingsize · 10-08-2005 04:53PM

"Most people don't have a choice about moving to Dublin"

I think you'll find that they do it might not be much of a choice but as far as i know there are no "compuslory bogger relocation schemes" or are there??

i once worked with a bloke from athlone who was contantly trying to play down the fact that he was from outside Dublin actual quote " im not a culchie theres dunnes an all where i live..."

Sleepy · 10-08-2005 05:03PM

If you've paid for college yourself instead of letting mammy and daddy do it, you will more than likely have student loans to be repaid. The dole will not pay these back, the only job you can get is in Dublin where you'll have to pay a small fortune to live in worse conditions than you did when you were in college so you'll just about be able to scrape by but at least you're paying your way in life...

Ok, I'll rephrase, "people have no choice about moving to Dublin if they've any sense of dignity and civic duty".

dynasty crew · 10-08-2005 05:07PM

Kingsize wrote:

I think you'll find that they do it might not be much of a choice but as far as i know there are no "compuslory bogger relocation schemes" or are there??

Very open minded, not all of the area outside of dublin is fields with a population of 10, outside of dublins we have places called towns. Anyway, this is my problem with dubliners, if someone doesn't like dublin, they can't seem to comprehend this and get all defensive and insulted at it. If someone calls where I'm from a shíthole, I don't care because I can completely see why they think that (not from there, don't know that much people, woudn't know any of the areas), but it's still where I'm from and I consider it home (although it is a bit of a shíthole, but it's my shíthole!!). I haven't insulted any dubliner individually yet when i say what I think of dublin some of you get all insulted, i dunno why, maybe because you don't know anywhere else or whatever?? Anyway just my opinion, if you like dublin by all means go ahead and like it, what the hell do i care.

Kingsize · 10-08-2005 05:11PM

which is the case for all people from outside Dublin living there & not just poor old sleepy i presume.
at least you got the choice theres loads of people in Dublin who'd like nothing better than to move to a rural area but cant.

Kingsize · 10-08-2005 05:15PM

dynasty crew wrote:

I haven't insulted any dubliner individually .

i mustve imagined you calling somebody a typical dublin knob a few posts back then,
actually i was joking but dont talk about Dubs having a chip on their shoulder & then whinge on about having to move to Dublin poor things ???

3 words
pot kettle black

( theree'll be a €2 weee tax on that kettle by the way)

pickarooney · 10-08-2005 05:18PM

Can't believe how people whinge about having to pay for rubbish disposal, as though it will just automagically disappear.
Try paying 400 euro a year for basic refuse disposal and then start moaning.

Kintarō Hattori · 10-08-2005 05:20PM

Guys,

A whole other thread could be created for the age old arguement of Dublin vs Rest of the country that ye are getting into here. Can we try and keep this thread on the point of the WEEE tax.

Many thanks

Sleepy · 10-08-2005 05:22PM

Kingsize wrote:

which is the case for all people from outside Dublin living there & not just poor old sleepy i presume.
at least you got the choice theres loads of people in Dublin who'd like nothing better than to move to a rural area but cant.

Sure all they'd have to do is sell their over-valued house and buy a cheaper (bigger) one out in a rural area. What's stopping them? They'd probably free up enough cash in the move to take a lovely holiday, upgrade the car etc. A woman I know retired fifteen years early by doing this recently!

Kingsize · 10-08-2005 05:24PM

Try selling a house in Darndale & see how much cash you'll get.

were not all upwardly mobile knackers as fair city would have you believe
point taken eo980,
sleepy- eveyone hates us & we dont care!!!!
well i dont then again in technically a bogger!!!

Sleepy · 10-08-2005 05:25PM

eo980 wrote:

Guys,

A whole other thread could be created for the age old arguement of Dublin vs Rest of the country that ye are getting into here. Can we try and keep this thread on the point of the WEEE tax.

Many thanks

It's kind of the same issue really eo980, this is just like the bin taxes. A certain class of Dubliner seem to believe the world owe them a living and as such won't accept that the WEEE is simply another perfectly fair tax on those that consume. If you're the one contributing to a government expense, you should be the one paying for it. PAYE revenue should be spent on the things that the country as a whole benefit from e.g. good health service, police force, education, fire service etc.

Kingsize · 10-08-2005 05:35PM

dynasty crew wrote:

I don't understand why people are supporting paying extra taxes for something that could be provided for free if the government weren't such wasters with their budgets. I don't think anyone would support an extra €20 being taken from your pay cheque every week but if they fool you into thinking it's for recycling, some guys think it's acceptable.You sound like a typical dublin knob, thinking they're better than the rest of the country, must be cos dublin's such a ****hole or something?? (and i do live in dublin at the minute so i know the difference between dublin and outside of dublin - more than most dubs like yourself).

heres wher the origin the Dubs vs "boggers" arguement got nasty before that it was 2 fairly light hearted comments from either side
you might like to note that this poster "dynasty crew" is actually against the tax.i take on board wht you say about a "typical class" (of dubliner) but you really should realise that most of the people here actually agreed with this tax

OLDYELLAR · 10-08-2005 05:39PM

So anyone buying a new house and buying a load of electrical good s for it is goina get screwed even more than usual , f*x sake , why dont they just tax the air were breathing in altogether! :mad:

Sleepy · 10-08-2005 05:40PM

Kingsize wrote:

Try selling a house in Darndale & see how much cash you'll get.

More than you'd get for a similar house in a similarly bad area in Galway, Limerick or Cork

I'll take your other point though!

Kingsize · 10-08-2005 05:47PM

Having lived in Darndale i reckon i'd take my chances in those other places you mentioned but you know what i was getting at ,some people would have you beieve that all dubs are capucino quaffing celtic tiger cubs who are buying & selling houses like its goin outta fashion.

Captain Trips · 10-08-2005 06:13PM

It's a great idea. Anything that stops mindless dumping and makes watching TV hurt is a good IMHO.

Next up: raise the TV license to €1000/year and put the money into education. I'd be first in line to pay 20 quid to get rid of the thing, but as yet I can't go that far

dynasty crew · 10-08-2005 07:57PM

Kingsize wrote:

i mustve imagined you calling somebody a typical dublin knob a few posts back then,
actually i was joking but dont talk about Dubs having a chip on their shoulder & then whinge on about having to move to Dublin poor things ???

Exactly you must have imagined me calling someone that, read again what i said. I never said anything about Dubs having a chip on their shoulder.

Kingsize wrote:

Heres wher the origin the Dubs vs "boggers" arguement got nasty

I said what I thought of dublin, for some reason some of you took it as an insult, which it wasn't. At no point did I say I have a problem living in dublin or a problem with dubs.

Back on topic, the problem isn't this individual tax, it's a bigger problem, the government pisses away money like mad then needs to find more ways to generate revenue, so makes us pay the price. Maybe this exact tax isn't about that but I still think that if the government was run more efficiently, a tax/service like this could easily be paid for, without us needing to know anything about it.

AdMMM · 10-08-2005 08:12PM

Doh! And here I was thinking this was a tax on going for a pìss!

Anyway, I support this tax. As it was said, it's merely paying for disposal up front. You currently have to do the exact same thing but only at the end of an electrical products life!

alantc · 10-08-2005 08:17PM

My solution is to get prisioners to sort our rubbish for us. We wouldn't even have to have 2 bins anymore and we'd reach near 100% recycling fast.
Are prisioners forced to do any labour here at all or do they just sit around all day?
If not, why not? Would it be hard to introduce legislation to make it so (i presume there's some human rights bull making it hard)

The weee tax wouldn't be necessary because the labour would be so cheap.

God Damn Europe! (WEEE Tax)

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