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Harry Potter

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  • #52
    Shinji
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,275 ✭✭✭Shinji


    if star wars and lord of the rings are the height of cultural achievement in your world, then really i want to get off this planet pretty damn quick.

    Cultural snob warning!

    Go on then, humour me. What's the height of cultural achievement on YOUR world? I mean obviously a groundbreaking and massively entertaining, if cliched, adventure story like Star Wars can't be great, it's much too popular. And that Lord of The Rings - I mean, sure, innovative use of the English language, fascinating and rich backstory, beautifully developed central storyline and characters, but hey - it's all bloody orcs and rubbish like that! Tripe! And look at all the uncultured people who like it! Tsk.

    I'm sure some random turkish language film that four people have seen ever is much better. How could it not be?


  • #53
    SweetBirdOfTruth
    Closed Accounts Posts: 421 ✭✭SweetBirdOfTruth


    and you want to call me a snob? come off it mate, you're as bad as the vision you seek to represent me as.

    "random turkish language film that four people have seen" aren't exactly up my street, i'm afraid. give me a copy of the searchers or the godfather and a packet of m+m's and i'll be a happy little camper.

    enjoyable as star wars was when i were a nipper, the simple fact is i'm unable to sit through it today on video without wanting to get up and go mow the lawn. and we concreted over the garden three years ago. as for the subsequent films - well hell, yes, i ***DO*** hate muppets.

    as for lord of the rings, well i read it when i was a teenager. gripping in places but outright twaddle in others. today, i'm actually happier with the sword and sorcery of a crap thraxas book or the "innovation" of, say, damon runyon.

    i'm not knocking star wars and lord of the rings. i accept, there's a lot of people out there get a lot of pleasure from them. but there's a lot of people out there get a lot of pleasure from mcdonald's burgers and crap tv. at the end of the day, each to his own.


  • #54
    Shinji
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,275 ✭✭✭Shinji


    Oh for crying out loud; could you be any more blinkered? "I don't like it, therefore it isn't high culture"?

    What a downright ludicrous attitude. Yes, you're right, there are many things which are popular that are NOT good; but to include things like Star Wars or Lord of the Rings in this simply because you personally no longer enjoy them is frankly ridiculous.

    Frankly, that's even more bizarre than the sniffy critic point of view I was originally accusing you of subscribing to...


  • #55
    BlitzKrieg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,698 ✭✭✭✭BlitzKrieg


    I've seen Harry Potter (Just because i go to see alot of films) And i'd give it a 6-8 in the 1-10 scale. I'm unsure because I've never read harry potter until after the film (Doh wrong way around!) Now I liked its fantasy world ideals. But I have to say its heavily marked down for being "rushed" at points. (The scene in the forest is such a let down.) and at other points dumping too much information on us too quickly or too little. I was just glad someone who hadnt read the book could watch it and ejoy it. Now on the Lotr Hp war. Well i've read 1 HP book. And about 20% of LOTR (never finished cause I started a week before junior cert and my mom panicked when she saw me reading instead of revising??) And i say i found the bit of LOTR i read. (And all of the hobbit) a bit too simplistic at times. Probably just a slow start so dont eat me about that comment.


    THe one major gripe I have with HP is that I think (note Think and I so dont BS me) the author was a smart person to take all the fantasy ideals and put them in 1 childrens book and really catch the immagination. Its good, its better then being re-fed garbage on some of todays cartoons. (excludign CN) BUT because I read fantasy books before Harry Potter alot of this i knew. And I couldnt stop myself in the film and the library scene started shouting. "Rincewind dont open that book!!!" I just felt it was too similer.


    ahh well


  • #56
    sceptre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,608 ✭✭✭✭sceptre


    Originally posted by BlitzKrieg
    And I couldnt stop myself in the film and the library scene started shouting. "Rincewind dont open that book!!!" I just felt it was too similer.

    Indeed. Went to see it yesterday. Think I was the only person in the cinema who didn't jump when that happened. Predictable, I suppose (not complaining)

    Must say I was impressed with Potter. Bit rushed at times but all in all a good movie.

    I see John Rhys Davies is pretty sure that LOTR will blow Potter out of the water (link at www.fellowshipofthering.info) - I'll wait and see (heard that before again and again, anyone remember the Jacksons Victory?) but with any luck both will be good enough to be big hits.


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