Whos the hardest nation in the world?

TerrorFirmer · 06-08-2005 01:06AM

eoin_s wrote:

Is that the fighting they do in a caged boxing ring? Universal something or another? - looks savage stuff

Ultimate fighting championship. Its always on Bravo. Its great stuff, some brutal and fierce, not to mention skillful, fighting

Eoin · 06-08-2005 01:08AM

Johnson wrote:

McCaw is nowhere near being the hardest player in the NZ team. He just doesn't give a fcuk about his body. Jerry Collins would be harder by a good bit.

Collins is a great example. How about that Trevor Liotta, I think he is Samoan or Tongan. He is just this massive cube of muscle.

county · 06-08-2005 01:09AM

eoin_s wrote:

I heard that as well from some a Maori guy actually. Can't really see why we would have a harder reputation than any other country - perhaps because we don't have a gun culture, so we have to know how to handle ourselves? Or maybe it's just the old stereotype of the drunk red-haired Irishmen fighting over some drink.

Like someone said, some of the Eastern Europeans are angry angry men. Would be much more wary of them.

No comment :rolleyes:

No, he is probably their most skilfull player, but not much harder than anyone else on the team. Not that I would take him on in a rush though.

Is that the fighting they do in a caged boxing ring? Universal something or another? - looks savage stuff

not sold it yet :rolleyes:

whiskeyman · 06-08-2005 01:11AM

It's gotta be Easter Island.
Just look at the inhabitants.... hard as nails I tells ya!

county · 06-08-2005 01:11AM

funny

Johnson · 06-08-2005 01:14AM

eoin_s wrote:

Collins is a great example. How about that Trevor Liotta, I think he is Samoan or Tongan. He is just this massive cube of muscle.

He's Samoan, and he is indeed very similar to a tank on legs. Not the most mobile of players, but an immovable object of epic proportions. Not sure if I'd class him as "hard" though.

Eoin · 06-08-2005 01:19AM

Johnson wrote:

He's Samoan, and he is indeed very similar to a tank on legs. Not the most mobile of players, but an immovable object of epic proportions. Not sure if I'd class him as "hard" though.

Well, it would be hard to do much damage to him so that would probably count.

KnowItAll · 06-08-2005 01:20AM

eoin_s wrote:

I heard that as well from some a Maori guy actually. Can't really see why we would have a harder reputation than any other country -

The Irish dominated bare knuckle boxing in the last century. On a BBC programe earlier this year they profiled the 3 best fighters in the boxing ring (in terms of knocking out their opponents) of all time. Along with Mike Tyson were 2 Irish Americans, John L Sullivan and Jack Dempsey.

Also, what other country has a game like hurling!

eoin_s wrote:

No, he is probably their most skilfull player, but not much harder than anyone else on the team. Not that I would take him on in a rush though.

He's their number 7. Yes he is skillful but I know no other backrow player who can dominate games like McCaw. You need to be hard to be a number 7 because thats the position where most collisions occur.

KnowItAll · 06-08-2005 01:24AM

eoin_s wrote:

How about that Trevor Liotta, I think he is Samoan or Tongan. He is just this massive cube of muscle.

A massive cube of fat is more like!

Andrew Sheridan would be a better example.

Eoin · 06-08-2005 01:28AM

KnowItAll wrote:

The Irish dominated bare knuckle boxing in the last century. On a BBC programe earlier this year they profiled the 3 best fighters in the boxing ring (in terms of knocking out their opponents) of all time. Along with Mike Tyson were 2 Irish Americans, John L Sullivan and Jack Dempsey.

Also, what other country has a game like hurling!

This is true - though what's that game like squash only with scoop type rackets? They had it on Jackass once.

KnowItAll wrote:

He's their number 7. Yes he is skillful but I know no other backrow player who can dominate games like McCaw. You need to be hard to be a number 7 because thats the position where most collisions occur.

I see what you mean, but he just doesn't strike me as a particularly hard man , more just an excellent player...

A massive cube of fat is more like!

Yes - but it's hard fat!

weemcd · 06-08-2005 01:30AM

Lithuanians are hard bastards.

Suppose the same goes for any other eastern european countries.

Naos · 06-08-2005 01:41AM

UFC = Ultimate Fighting Championship

Check out PrideFC

Makaveli · 06-08-2005 01:54AM

eoin_s wrote:

This is true - though what's that game like squash only with scoop type rackets? They had it on Jackass once.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jai_alai

ziggy · 06-08-2005 02:04AM

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whiskeyman · 06-08-2005 02:10AM

ziggy67 wrote:

Don't you watch the movies? Pirates are from the Caribean, i thought everyone knew that. :rolleyes:

I thought they were from Penzance...

Mr.Nice Guy · 06-08-2005 02:21AM

The Vietnamese seem pretty tough...

ziggy · 06-08-2005 02:28AM

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madfistbt · 06-08-2005 02:30AM

Virus_Inc wrote:

From a NZ perspective the maori are a warrior/tribal race. Also they're only really just recently westernised - NZ is an extremely young nation - the Treaty of Waitangi was only signed in 1840 (effectively when NZ became a nation in its own right) and at that stage and a fair while afterwards during the land wars they still lived in their tribal society and most tribes still exist, in a modified way, today but most of their culture still remains. Elements of their tribal nature also shows up in the gangs that form in the inner cities.

They're also fierce cunning warriors - they recognised how effective firearms were and quickly adapted to fighting with them - against each other and the british - as opposed to the likes of the aboriginies in Australia. They were the scourge of the british troops in NZ and greatly feared by axis troops in the first and second world war.

Being of tribal nature they are very family orientated and fiercely loyal (obviously there are always exceptions to the rule but I went to a country school where the majority of the faces were brown). If you are their friend they will look out for you and do anything if you need help and as Guzzler says they are very amenable people when you get to know them. They dont get riled too easily but stay out of their way when they do!

I've known a fair few of them in my time - prolly my best mate in Dublin is a big maori bloke who works as a bouncer - I think it's fair to say that like most races there are always a few bad apples.

Nice post. Ive got to say ive always been fascinated with their culture, I admire the way they are (from what Ive been told) gentle giants and very traditional, If your good to them they will show you respect, but get on the wrong side of them and your in trouble. Altough a lot of them dont like white people.

If I owned a nightclub I would employ 50% Maoris and 50% nutter Dubliners for bouncers, Isnt it rare to see maoris in Europe though?, as they are so family orientated?

kawaii · 06-08-2005 02:31AM

The French....

NOT!

Pigman II · 06-08-2005 09:39AM

It has to be us!

I can't think of any other nation on earth that can remain neutral for 80 years yet still be considered a bunch of tough violent bastards internationally.

stagolee · 06-08-2005 10:26AM

thai's in my opinion calm ,chilled out ,non violent bhuddists though many of they may be; must be in the top few with maoris and eastern europeans/russians.
the ones that train in thai boxing from an early age are as hard as nails. they may not be physicaly big but they can give and take harder knocks than blokes twice their size.

i was told that most of the lads who compete at a high level are barley abe to walk once they hit 50 due to the extremes of conditioning they have put their body through from a young age.

joejoem · 06-08-2005 10:26AM

I would have to go with New Zealand, either them or The Japanese or the phillipinos because they all have a complete disregard to there own wellbeing when it comes to fighting.

If we (the Irish) were smart, we would send in all the travellers and Skangers and say they are our reprasentatives. When they all get wiped out we can referee.

McClane · 06-08-2005 10:36AM

Which nation are the hardest ?

You might find this hard to believe but in the modern world every nation on earth has pansys.

The Irish win hands down for being "hard". We've dominated boxing (See upcoming film, the cinderella man) and take another look at our history. We've been in every war that it has being physically possible for us to reach. Read about the "fighting 69th" in the American Civil War, the Wild geese in France etc.

Though we're all becoming weak pansys nowadays.

Playboy · 06-08-2005 03:52PM

Russians who live in Siberia ... scary people :eek:

pickarooney · 06-08-2005 04:11PM

I'd reckon the Inuit are pretty damn tough. Never met one though.

thegloriousend · 06-08-2005 06:00PM

Russians. Eastern Europeans fall in there too

Whos the hardest nation in the world?

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