Man running from police shot dead in London

22-07-2005 10:37AM #1

just heard it on sky news.he was trying to blow himself up but police shot/killed him before he did it.it was on a train in stockwell!!

YeatsCounty · 22-07-2005 10:45AM

Sky News link.

Nothing on the BBC or Reuters yet. Won't hold my breath until I see it reported on those sites, to be honest.

Third_Echelon · 22-07-2005 10:46AM

London is getting jihah-ed out if it in the past few weeks....

Holy fupp! I was thinking of taking a job in London, but fcuk that... Dublin will do me fine :eek:

Downtime · 22-07-2005 10:47AM

It's on the BBC site as well on the Latest news ticker

egan007 · 22-07-2005 10:48AM

Third_Echelon wrote:

London is getting jihah-ed out if it in the past few weeks....

Holy fupp! I was thinking of taking a job in London, but fcuk that... Dublin will do me fine :eek:

You should go - it's unlikely that anything will happen to you
If people start not going because of this then the people putting bombs there win...

Zapho · 22-07-2005 10:48AM

Sky wrote:

If the suspect is confirmed to be a suicide bomber, it would mark the fifth attempted terrorist attack on London in less than a day.

Looks like they don't even know if it was a suicide bomber or not. Could just be a guy going camping...

22-07-2005 10:49AM

oh my god!its like 9-11 times 1000!!!!thats NINE HUNDRED AND ELEVEN THOUSAND!!!!!!!!!

Shabadu · 22-07-2005 10:50AM

War on Terrorism a great success, it seems. Success for the terrorists who have a fantastic new recruitment draw, that is.

egan007 · 22-07-2005 10:52AM

Zapho wrote:

Looks like they don't even know if it was a suicide bomber or not. Could just be a guy going camping...

Indeed - If he turns out to be a guy going camping then the londoners have both sides to fear. They should try the Americans idea of carrying out random search es on the NY underground today :rolleyes:

YeatsCounty · 22-07-2005 11:01AM

from the BBC:

A man has been shot at Stockwell Tube station by armed police officers, police confirm.
Passengers were evacuated from a Tube train on the Northern Line station in south London after the incident.

Passenger Mark Whitby told BBC News he had seen an Asian man shot five times by "plain-clothes police officers".

Services on the Victoria and Northern lines have been suspended following a request by the police, London Underground said.

Police are hunting four would-be bombers after Thursday's London blasts.

The bombers fled after detonators went off, causing small blasts, but failed to detonate the bombs themselves.

Mr Whitby, told BBC News: "I saw an Asian guy run onto the train hotly pursued by three plain-clothes police officers.

"One of them was carrying a black handgun - it looked like an automatic - they pushed him to the floor, bundled on top of him and unloaded five shots into him."

Passenger Briony Coetsee said: "We were on the Tube and then we suddenly heard someone say, 'Get out, get out' and then we heard gunshots."

egan007 · 22-07-2005 11:02AM

Deleted User wrote:

hey pakistani.does your granny have afanny?does it smell/fuc*ing hell!!

the cause of split between the west and muslims.

Oh yeah of course - There is a position in the UN open as a peace commissioner maybe you should think of applying. Don't the rest of us look like morons! Who would of tought it could be this simple.

mjquinno · 22-07-2005 11:11AM

dumbass

Deleted User wrote:

hey pakistani.does your granny have afanny?does it smell/fuc*ing hell!!

the cause of split between the west and muslims.

Lemming · 22-07-2005 11:13AM

YeatsCounty wrote:

from the BBC:

What disturbs me about that quote is that they seemingly had him on the floor and under some sort of control/restraint, and then shot him.

We don't know what happened exactly, so we'll have to wait for better details I guess.

juno75 · 22-07-2005 11:17AM

The_Dazzler=Muppet

The Gnome · 22-07-2005 11:17AM

And more disturbing still is that they apparently shot him 5 times!

Zapho · 22-07-2005 11:18AM

Patience people. it can take up to two hours to get all the facts from the news

Splinter · 22-07-2005 11:18AM

can we remove the_dazzler please? no need for his comments. that worries and disturbs me about the restraint and then shooting. kinda wierd

Pacifico · 22-07-2005 11:19AM

Zapho wrote:

Patience people. it can take up to two hours to get all the facts from the news

Yep, just witness reports atm....

Doesn't sound good though

shellby · 22-07-2005 11:23AM

holy sh1t london has gone flucking loo lah in the past couple of weeks chrst this might really back fire for them

seamus · 22-07-2005 11:26AM

It seems unlikely to me that the British Police would just shoot someone on suspicion, or when he was in restraints. Let's wait until we get the full story.

roberteboot · 22-07-2005 11:27AM

splinter wrote:

can we remove the_dazzler please? no need for his comments. that worries and disturbs me about the restraint and then shooting. kinda wierd

I always thought that quote was hilarious when i was a kid.So its official.Kids are rascist.

But back on topic if they were afraid that he could detonate the bomb(I.E. if he had the detonator in his hand or felt there was a risk that he could get at it) then they couldnt take any chances.It doesnt say they had him restrained.They toppled on top of him.It was probably very messy.Split second decision type of thing.If he had of managed to hit the detonator who knows what would of happened.

Megatron · 22-07-2005 11:29AM

The Gnome wrote:

And more disturbing still is that they apparently shot him 5 times!

it does seem a bit of OTT.

But what if ( and i know it's just speculation) the had a dead mans switch on him ?

Just a plain simple wire , he has it tuaght and all he has to do is let go , or it was a simple button, he tried to let go , and force his had off it, the officers shot him and took control of the button/wire ?

when i heard of the bombs yesterday and how one of the bombs was a "Nail bomb" My first though was copy cat bombing.

roberteboot · 22-07-2005 11:33AM

Megatron wrote:

it does seem a bit of OTT.

But what if ( and i know it's just speculation) the had a dead mans switch on him ?

Just a plain simple wire , he has it tuaght and all he has to do is let go , or it was a simple button, he tried to let go , and force his had off it, the officers shot him and took control of the button/wire ?

when i heard of the bombs yesterday and how one of the bombs was a "Nail bomb" My first though was copy cat bombing.

Five times.Once.What does it matter.They stopped him from killing people.Im sure the people on the train he was running towards wouldnt mind if they shot him all day long!I cant believe people are talking about it being over the top!

Trojan · 22-07-2005 11:38AM

We don't know where in his body he was shot.

I'm a liberal, but ...

If you're an undercover armed cop dealing with a potential suicide bomber who has clearly displayed that he's not afraid to die, and wants to take as many innocents with him do you: a) try take him into custody on a crowded tube, giving plenty of opportunity for him to connect whatever needs connecting, or b) disable him, using whatever force you feel is necessary?

Kingsize · 22-07-2005 11:39AM

well think of the poor bastard who was arrested at gunpoint in the downing st area just because he was an asian with a rucksack.
he was later released without charge.
For all we know this guy in the tube station couldve been taking his IPOD out of his bag.
surely if you can restrain someone thers no need to shoot them especially if they (potentially) have explosives strapped to their back.

anthonymcg · 22-07-2005 11:39AM

We're talking about it being OTT cos we're working on the facts which are there at the moment. Noone knows what type of bomb he had on them. Also there seem to have been a lot of police chasing him which suggests that they must have had some intelligence about him in advance.

Orion · 22-07-2005 11:40AM

roberteboot wrote:

Five times.Once.What does it matter.They stopped him from killing people.

You've obviously heard something the rest of us haven't. He was shot under suspicion of being a bomber while under restraint.

Mr. Presentable · 22-07-2005 11:40AM

seamus wrote:

It seems unlikely to me that the British Police would just shoot someone on suspicion, or when he was in restraints.

Really!

They did that to Irishmen all through the 70's and 80's.

Nuttzz · 22-07-2005 11:41AM

he was only shot because he needed to be shot, they would have wanted him alive if possible to lead the police to the rest of his buddies.

if you were tackling a suicide bomber and had him on the ground and he reached for his button to explode his bomb what would you do? use harsh langauge, British police dont go around shooting people for jollies you know....

YeatsCounty · 22-07-2005 11:43AM

Trojan wrote:

We don't know where in his body he was shot.

I'm a liberal, but ...

If you're an undercover armed cop dealing with a potential suicide bomber who has clearly displayed that he's not afraid to die, and wants to take as many innocents with him do you: a) try take him into custody on a crowded tube, giving plenty of opportunity for him to connect whatever needs connecting, or b) disable him, using whatever force you feel is necessary?

True. If he was a suicide bomber (and lets bear in mind that details of this story are still emerging), then the police should use any and all force necessary to stop him.

The Gnome · 22-07-2005 11:43AM

roberteboot wrote:

Five times.Once.What does it matter.They stopped him from killing people.Im sure the people on the train he was running towards wouldnt mind if they shot him all day long!I cant believe people are talking about it being over the top!

Restraint is sometimes neccessary. Especially if, as Megatron suggested, the suspect is connected to a dead mans switch. If the police force can't show restraint and keep calm then hysteria in the general public will most likely ensue.

Man running from police shot dead in London

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