Goths in Ireland...?

Aww Guys with eyeliner are hot. How do you dress now?

Since we're on the subject of goths, I don't like when people(usually internet-Goths) "hang up the fishnets", so to speak, not because, unlike some valid scenarios they no longer suit them, but as part of some kind of "calming down", and claim they're still really different on the inside. I've seen far too many goths like that online, who are really just stuck up bastards. I've gotten assaulted for having punkish ideals of "you know, maybe if you actually took a stance on something" - "Shut up! You can't do that when you have three wives, twelve kids and a mortage on a golden toilet!" "You have that?" "I intend to!"

This, lately, has made me loose all faith in the human race. Corporate goths/punks are just ultimately the greatest social retard possible. Fair enough, you have to work, you have to earn money, wow, so does nearly everyone, but that doesn't mean you have to act like a stuck up twat to anyone who dare suggest that some things like the right to express yourself (to a decent degree of course) are worth fighting for.

I'm serious, but this really does depress me. This is what makes me think life really isn't ****ing worth living, when nobody gives a rats ass about individuality anymore, rebellion is oh so 1960s and out of date. People keep claiming to be really the same person they were, they've just "calmed down" in how they act, how the hell is that even possible?

It's a whole load of bull****. I'll be dying my hair bright red for as long as I see fit. If it's trouble getting a job, **** it, I'll wear a black wig for the interview, or a really temporary colour to calm it down. Why doesn't anyone ever think of that? No I HAVE to cut and dye my hair now to get a job. The most I'm doing is letting it fade. I see no reason to "Calm down". I see no reason to , and pretend like the outside doesn't matter. Of course there are times when the oustide matters. JUDGING someone on their looks is shallow, but using them to express yourself is anything but. Your looks don't necessarily mean you're one way or the other, but if you claim to be anti-conformist and don't bother fighting for your right not to conform because you don't *need* to dress differently, you're a useless hypocrite.

Public relations jobs, where you have to have a certain image. It's somewhat understandable then, but at the same time, it's very elitist to "moderate" it. Dress code is fine, but if you're forcing things like hair colour, that's more permanent. Really, everyone's seen it before. If you tie it back, you can still look professional with pink or purple hair. If you gel it down, it darkens it so it has a less intense look. Or again, worse comes to worse, wear a wig.
It amazes me how judgemental employers are with things like that. People don't consider little things like that important enough to fight for. This bemuses me.
If someone is qualified, they're qualified. If they have a crazy appearance, chances are, they're a strong, independant, motivated individual. Too much prejudice.

Things this big have to be introduced gradually... which seems to be an excuse for people to do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING AT ALL.

These are very often the people that end up being mods on goth messageboards and IRC channels, and punish people for being so "Immature" as to disagree with them.

It's pathetic. Somethings are more important in life than money and mainstream acceptance. I've seen the same thing from supposed "Punks" and "Wilboy" guitarists, and just supposed "individuals" and "free thinkers" in general. A keyboardist guy I know cut off his long hair JUST FOR THE SAKE OF BEING MORE CORPORATE. He already HAD his job. Of course, he's happy where he is, blah blah blah, it's pretty obvious he missed the "Old" days.
I'm tired of that kind of thing.
I'm beginning to think I'm crazy now, because nobody ever seems to agree with me on this, even though it's plainly blatant. I think it's just people are too scared to do any different, or to grasp what they're becoming. So they just keep telling themselves otherwise.

The worst case I've seen were some capitalist worshipping transsexuals who believe that employers should have every right not to hire transsexuals because it's not profitable, and that if the US had strong unions and workers rights like in the EU, it would be very bad indeed. That's insane. It's almost like a cult, or fundie christianity, you must worship the god and sacrifice for the "greater good".
I hate to discriminate myself, but bloody yanks.

I just wish "inidividual" people, for once, would say "Hey, maybe I SHOULD take a stance for this." When will they learn that things HAPPEN gradually, but are done SUDDENLY? Gradually doesn't happen by "Slowly" introducing little bits and pieces you'll never expand upon. It happens by real people working hard for something that MATTERS, or even just taking a single stance. DOING something.

In the 60s, if you did, you were cool, you helped make progession. If you do something today, you're a ****ing whiner. Everything's whining. You have a problem, it's whining. What a wonderful way for the world to protect itself, to demean anyone that disagrees with it as somehow an irritance. It reminds me of the kind of practice religious extemists use to denounce anyone different to them.

Sorry for the rant, I just know a lot of very pathetic people. IRC goths generally aren't very nice or interesting people. Well, that's IRC for you I guess.

It wasn't directed at you, re-read

PiE wrote:

You need to relax and not worry about what other people do with their lives.

No, that's exactly what nobody needs to do. Nobody is going to speak out against it.