getting refused at the door

zap · 26-05-2005 01:00PM #1

I am sick of getting turned away at the door of certain pubs/clubs in dublin becuase appartently I have had too much to drink - when I haven't had a drink at all either that or the place suddenly becomes over 21s for that minute I am at the door. It's not as if I am dressed badly - always have shoes shirt etc. hair neat the usual and i'm just fed up with it.

seamus · 26-05-2005 01:02PM

You may just be one of those people who looks stoned/pissed all of the time. I have a mate like that. Bouncers always go "Sorry lads, he's had too much", and we go, "Uh, WTF, we've only just gotten into town! Don't worry, he always looks like that". Then they wave us in.

Do you have particularly bloodshot or abnormal eyes? This is usually what sets them off. I know another guy who used to carry around a doctor's cert to show to bouncers cos the medication he was on made his eyes very red.

Jammer · 26-05-2005 01:05PM

The place i go every weekend, the same bouncer asks me for ID everytime. I think he may be taking the piss at this stage...

Lenny · 26-05-2005 01:06PM

How is this a personaal issue?
I'm sick of people making topics of being refused n ****, just live it it or go else were

Beruthiel · 26-05-2005 01:09PM

Lenny wrote:

How is this a personaal issue?

it's not
moved to AH
B

zap · 26-05-2005 01:16PM

the reason I always get refused is that I have an artifical right eye and occasionally it swells and looks really red - however try telling bouncers that there just like ye ye not tonight.

Duckjob · 26-05-2005 01:17PM

zap wrote:

I am sick of getting turned away at the door of certain pubs/clubs in dublin becuase appartently I have had too much to drink - when I haven't had a drink at all either that or the place suddenly becomes over 21s for that minute I am at the door. It's not as if I am dressed badly - always have shoes shirt etc. hair neat the usual and i'm just fed up with it.

Bouncers operate on gut feelings, so when a bouncer says 'too much to drink', its often a less offensive way (in his mind anyway) to refuse you than to tell you the real reason, which could be anything from 'you're a bit young looking' to 'i just don't like the cut of you'.

Given that you mentioned 'over 21s', it might be the latter so it might be worth reading between the lines and showing him your ID. Even if you're aged 18-21, he might make him feel more positive towards you the fact that you're being so cooperative.

Lenny · 26-05-2005 01:18PM

You should've locked it ber

zap · 26-05-2005 01:21PM

i always show id - i have no problem with that but they still refuse to let me in.

Duckjob · 26-05-2005 01:24PM

zap wrote:

the reason I always get refused is that I have an artifical right eye and occasionally it swells and looks really red - however try telling bouncers that there just like ye ye not tonight.

If thats the case, it should be possible to get a doctors note to verify that and carry it with you to show them.

zap · 26-05-2005 01:41PM

that's all well and good but if they are using a diff excuse rather than saying that it's odd pulling out a docs cert.

zap · 26-05-2005 01:41PM

by the way I can't see how this isn't a personal issue!

Jim · 26-05-2005 01:43PM

Theres a mofo'in edit button mofo.

Kinetic^ · 26-05-2005 01:45PM

What clubs are you going to & how old are you??

edmund_f · 26-05-2005 01:53PM

nice thing to do is if you are with a group.. go up to a door (with bouncers) pause a min and say something along the lines of 'Nah.. looks too young' and head off to the place across the street..

petes · 26-05-2005 02:01PM

Duckjob wrote:

If thats the case, it should be possible to get a doctors note to verify that and carry it with you to show them.

Failing that take out your eye and show it to them.

zap · 26-05-2005 02:06PM

I'm 19 and it happens in alot of clubs don't wanna name names.

Kinetic^ · 26-05-2005 02:11PM

Well it depends what clubs your going to.If you're going to places like Ron Blacks & cafe en seine then you'll probably have a hard time getting in ubt if you're going to the ivy you should be ok.

BaZmO* · 26-05-2005 02:15PM

Duckjob wrote:

Bouncers operate on gut feelings, so when a bouncer says 'too much to drink', its often a less offensive way (in his mind anyway) to refuse you than to tell you the real reason, which could be anything from 'you're a bit young looking' to 'i just don't like the cut of you'.

That's it in a nutshell mate. I've worked in a few bars and clubs down through the years and if a bouncer doesn't like the look of you he just won't let you in. And he'll give you every stupid excuse under the sun to refuse you.

"Sorry, you're too young"
"Sorry, regulars only"
"Sorry, you've too much to drink"
"Sorry, you're wearing trainers"
"Sorry, we're full"

Unfortunately it's a fact of life and you'll just have to get used it. We've all heard the excuses before.

B.

HelterSkelter · 26-05-2005 02:18PM

zap wrote:

...or the place suddenly becomes over 21s for that minute I am at the door. .

It's against the Equal Status Act to refuse for over 21's unless they have a sign up to say that is the policy. You should take a case against them next time it happens. I'm due a nice little compensation payout for something very similar.

Maynooth · 26-05-2005 02:18PM

Name names.

Duckjob · 26-05-2005 02:42PM

HelterSkelter wrote:

It's against the Equal Status Act to refuse for over 21's unless they have a sign up to say that is the policy. You should take a case against them next time it happens. I'm due a nice little compensation payout for something very similar.

As yes, payout for the 'trauma' caused. Were you psychologically scarred? You poor mite.

And while we're at it, lets all start jumping out in front of oncoming cars. That's got to be worth a few quid. After all, the world does owe us a living. woohooo...

:mad:

Kinetic^ · 26-05-2005 02:45PM

Duckjob wrote:

As yes, payout for the 'trauma' caused. Were you psychologically scarred?

Have to agree with duckjob, so you didnt get into a club??So what,its not as if you lost a leg/arm.

BaZmO* · 26-05-2005 02:48PM

HelterSkelter wrote:

It's against the Equal Status Act to refuse for over 21's unless they have a sign up to say that is the policy. You should take a case against them next time it happens. I'm due a nice little compensation payout for something very similar.

It's people like you that give insurance companies excuses to charge ridiculously high premiums.

B.

steveland? · 26-05-2005 02:49PM

seamus wrote:

Do you have particularly bloodshot or abnormal eyes? This is usually what sets them off.

Heh, I've got massive bags under my eyes constantly that make me look like I'm stoned constantly... couple this with wearing contacts which cause my eyes to water a tiny bit and after a while of wearing them make my eyes a tiny bit red and I tend to look fairly fluthered going up to the door...

Never really been a problem though cos somehow every time I've gone for a photo for an ID ive been... innebriated and look like that anyway in the pictures

They just look at the photo and see that that's how I normally look

Kinetic^ · 26-05-2005 02:52PM

BaZmO* wrote:

It's people like you that give insurance companies excuses to charge ridiculously high premiums.

B.

& then we the general public get affected by it,drinks prices are gonna go up coz the pub is being charged more for insurance....and then you're going to moan at the prices of drink when in fact you caused the price hike in the first place. :mad:

HelterSkelter · 26-05-2005 02:54PM

To the last 4 posters:

They (the defendants) broke the law and now they are paying the penalty. I am not doing anything wrong by taking a case. In fact the Equality Authority (a Government body) encouraged me to take the case so that the defendants will not discriminate against others in the same way again.

BTW it's not a club in my case.

BaZmO* · 26-05-2005 03:03PM

HelterSkelter wrote:

To the last 4 posters:

They (the defendants) broke the law and now they are paying the penalty. I am not doing anything wrong by taking a case. In fact the Equality Authority (a Government body) encouraged me to take the case so that the defendants will not discriminate against others in the same way again.

BTW it's not a club in my case.

Ok so it's a principle thing then? In that case you'll be giving any money that you get to charity?

B.

Duckjob · 26-05-2005 03:08PM

HelterSkelter wrote:

To the last 4 posters:

They (the defendants) broke the law and now they are paying the penalty. I am not doing anything wrong by taking a case. In fact the Equality Authority (a Government body) encouraged me to take the case so that the defendants will not discriminate against others in the same way again.

BTW it's not a club in my case.

Fair enough, if the establishment in question broke the law they should be fined or penalised, but why should you be compensated. How do you justify it, other than that you want a few easy quid.

Enough people with that attitude, and we're heading towards a litigatious society just like in the US, where you can't look at someone the wrong way without being sued.

HelterSkelter · 26-05-2005 03:12PM

Duckjob wrote:

Fair enough, if the establishment in question broke the law they should be fined or penalised, but why should you be compensated. How do you justify it, other than that you want a few easy quid.

With that attitude, we're heading towards a litigatious society just like the US, where you can't look at someone the wrong way without being sued.

I don't think the relativly small amount I am getting is really going to make much of a dent in the profits of the "service provider" I took the case against. Believe me they make massive profits every year.

I'll be totally honest, it started out as a matter of principal, I didn't care about getting any money out of them. But if the Equality Comission want to award me compensation then it is a nice little bonus as far as I am concerned. I am not going to refuse. Be honest, would you? Same questions to Bazmo as well.

skywalker · 26-05-2005 03:15PM

HelterSkelter wrote:

It's against the Equal Status Act to refuse for over 21's unless they have a sign up to say that is the policy. You should take a case against them next time it happens. I'm due a nice little compensation payout for something very similar.

You sicken me.

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