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Postcodes for everyone in Ireland by 2008

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  • #32
    Tar.Aldarion
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,119 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Canis Lupus wrote:
    Do you live in the country?

    Or you ask someone everyone knows everyone in the country :)

    tis' true me lad

    and to the guy that said how do you find peoples houses from the address lol!


  • #33
    Blisterman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,534 ✭✭✭Blisterman


    Well I understand you can find the road from a map, but without numbers, how are you supposed to know which part of the road, they're on?


  • #34
    Mossy Monk
    Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    i like this idea (if its done correctly)

    DHL always have problems finding my house in Dungarvan


  • #35
    fjon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,089 ✭✭✭fjon


    Blisterman wrote:
    Well I understand you can find the road from a map, but without numbers, how are you supposed to know which part of the road, they're on?

    GPS co-ordinates - it's that simple!


  • #36
    Canis Lupus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,880 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    fjon wrote:
    GPS co-ordinates - it's that simple!


    Are there sat nav programmes which include all the little byroads for places like Kerry or even remoter places up the west coast?


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  • #37
    Tar.Aldarion
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,119 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Blisterman wrote:
    Well I understand you can find the road from a map, but without numbers, how are you supposed to know which part of the road, they're on?

    you get off your lazy ass and "say excuse me where is the ole' petersons place" to a local :) plus it's usually an phost we will be getting our mail from and they will know which house anyways.


  • #38
    fjon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,089 ✭✭✭fjon


    Canis Lupus wrote:
    Are there sat nav programmes which include all the little byroads for places like Kerry or even remoter places up the west coast?

    Yes, kind of...
    Discussion about this very topic going on here.
    While the mapping may not be 100% perfect now, it will be by 2008.
    Also, note that even without the mapping GPS is still usable.
    I use a GPS for geocaching regularly and have no basemap. I have driven to many arse-end-of-nowhere places with my receiver and have not ever had any problems because I don't have a map. Sure, it does make it easier, but is not stricly necessary. If you give me the co-ords for your house then I can find it - map or no map. And postmen/ couriers/ pizzamen should be able to do the same ;)


  • #39
    DublinWriter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,599 ✭✭✭DublinWriter


    Blisterman wrote:
    The english ones are a bit stupid. They're really hard to remember.
    You find six digits hard to remember?

    The reason they're like that is that you can locate a house almost within 50 meters using the British system.

    But what will happen here is that:

    a) The Government will throw circa €50 million at some lame big 5 consultancy to work out how to implement the postcodes

    b) The Unions won't like it and will probably take industrial action

    c) The EU will implement a unified post code system within the next 10 years, making the new Irish one obsolete

    *sigh*


  • #40
    toiletduck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭toiletduck


    i like the idea but as has been mentioned the gov will probably fu(k it up


  • #41
    Wertz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,909 ✭✭✭✭Wertz


    DublinWriter wrote:
    You find six digits hard to remember?

    The reason they're like that is that you can locate a house almost within 50 meters using the British system.

    But what will happen here is that:

    a) The Government will throw circa €50 million at some lame big 5 consultancy to work out how to implement the postcodes

    b) The Unions won't like it and will probably take industrial action

    c) The EU will implement a unified post code system within the next 10 years, making the new Irish one obsolete

    *sigh*


    Yup. Was about to pst the same thing. Thjis will be handed over to some "think tank" at considerable expoense to the tax payer....mulled over for 18 months then implemented arse-about-face and go the way of the electronic voting system, which this minister also had responsibility for.

    Yes we probably do need a code system, but we definitely don't need to spend god knows what on implementing it. Will it speed up An Post's delivery timesd? I doubt it. They'd prolly use it as an excuse to throw another 5 cent onto the cost of a stamp...


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  • #42
    Alun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,557 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    I'm not sure whether the system will necessarily speed up An Post's delivery times, local posties usually know everyone on their round anyway, but remember that there are a lot of people who need to find addresses who maybe don't have the degree of local knowledge that the average postman does like couriers and delivery men for example.


  • #43
    Cabaal
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,726 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    Wertz wrote:
    Yup. Was about to pst the same thing. Thjis will be handed over to some "think tank" at considerable expoense to the tax payer....mulled over for 18 months then implemented arse-about-face and go the way of the electronic voting system, which this minister also had responsibility for.

    ..and we all know how much that system is was used ;)
    Will it speed up An Post's delivery timesd? I doubt it. They'd prolly use it as an excuse to throw another 5 cent onto the cost of a stamp...

    Of course they will, after all they'll have to get money to update all their eqipment so it can deal with the new postcode system


  • #44
    ziggy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭ziggy


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  • #45
    Sleipnir
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭Sleipnir


    Come on, this is Ireland which means that after a few years of "consultation" and "public debate" each house in the country will get a 142 digit alphanumeric code, which the public will only be able to get after making a submission to the data protection commissoner and then Comreg. Oh, you'll have to pay of course.

    But you'll need to know your postcode before you can do that.

    It doesn't really matter, we'll all ignore it anyway!


  • #46
    crang
    Closed Accounts Posts: 140 ✭✭crang


    Absolute madness. Waste of money


  • #47
    ziggy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭ziggy


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  • #48
    Wertz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,909 ✭✭✭✭Wertz


    ziggy67 wrote:
    Where is the cost? It will make sorting more efficient, saving money

    Ah such innocence. Nothing is that simple when it comes to changing the seemingly simplest of things here, especially since the tiger reared it's head.
    I'm not arguing that we don't need them...we probably DO need them, but not at the expense of what it will inevitably end up costing...which is ultimately paid for by Mr and Mrs Taxpayer.


  • #49
    Horsefumbler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,823 ✭✭✭Horsefumbler


    won't have to make up postcodes when ordering online anymore then...


  • #50
    Blisterman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,534 ✭✭✭Blisterman


    Will you have to put them on? For example, if I knew my friends house number and street, would I still be able to put that on an envelope and send it to him.


  • #51
    antoinolachtnai
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,737 ✭✭✭antoinolachtnai


    Basically, the issue in Ireland is that there are a lot of ambiguous addresses. They are ambiguous for a number of reasons - lack of street names/numbers, a number of streets, townlands and towns with the same or a similar name, and so on.

    As defined by the Universal Postal Union (UPU), a postcode is a ‘unique, universal identifier that unambiguously identifies the addressee’s locality and assists in the transmission and sorting of mail items’. That's what the benefit the postcode will bring.

    The postcode doesn't in itself solve all the problems associated with deliveries and locating addresses. However, it makes it much easier for operators and third party solution providers to resolve these problems.

    I've been somewhat involved in this process - weblog post here - http://www.eire.com/blogarchives/000230.html .

    Best,

    Antoin.


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  • #52
    Wertz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,909 ✭✭✭✭Wertz


    Horsefumbler wrote:
    won't have to make up postcodes when ordering online anymore then...

    I always just put in an N/A and if the seller/shop queried it I'd tell them we still lived in the dark ages here...
    You'd be amazed how many parcels arrived bearing N/A as the postcode :p


  • #53
    Blisterman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,534 ✭✭✭Blisterman


    I hope they leave Dublin the way it is. It's easy enough to find where you're looking for there already. There's no point in changing it.


  • #54
    ziggy
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  • #55
    CrowdedHouse
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,322 ✭✭✭CrowdedHouse


    There's a spoof about Postcodes here from our old friends Comreg

    \http://comreg.ie/_fileupload/publications/ComReg0507.pdf

    Seven Worlds will Collide



  • #56
    Gazza22
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Gazza22


    Why hasn't anybody mentioned this yet??!
    It was said in the papers today the reason they are doing this is to make it easier for the emergency services to pinpoint a location more efficiently.


  • #57
    Blisterman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,534 ✭✭✭Blisterman


    Oh, well that makes sense. Why didnt someone say that?


  • #58
    cuckoo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,945 ✭✭✭cuckoo


    Good luck to them trying to convert people over to the notion of postcodes.

    Remember the campaign to try and get ppl putting their return address on the top left hand corner of the envelope? I think i'm the only person who bought into that one.


  • #59
    Cabaal
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,726 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    cuckoo wrote:
    Remember the campaign to try and get ppl putting their return address on the top left hand corner of the envelope? I think i'm the only person who bought into that one.

    I do it but only for important stuff or items that are worth money, couldn't be arsed otherwise


  • #60
    Wertz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,909 ✭✭✭✭Wertz


    cuckoo wrote:
    Good luck to them trying to convert people over to the notion of postcodes.

    Remember the campaign to try and get ppl putting their return address on the top left hand corner of the envelope? I think i'm the only person who bought into that one.

    If the eejits can't get it to where it was supposed to go in the first place, what makes you think that they'll be able to get it back to you? :p


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  • #61
    Victor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,926 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Blisterman wrote:
    Well I understand you can find the road from a map, but without numbers, how are you supposed to know which part of the road, they're on?
    You create a number by the distance of the entrance from the start of the road in metres.


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