Eurovision Farce

Our man in Havana · 22-05-2005 01:04AM

Time to scrap "your a spa" and Ray D'Arcy. I agree with mr. Louis Walsh in this matter.

BuffyBot · 22-05-2005 01:21AM

The Eurovision is just going out of fashion now

Still drawing a lot of viewers - while Ireland and the UK take the piss out of it, a lot of the countries are deadly serious!

LadyJ · 22-05-2005 01:32AM

Norway were SO cool!

Mr.Nice Guy · 22-05-2005 01:32AM

embraer170 wrote:

Malta (2nd) is proof of the total opposite.

But how far behind were Malta? I would have welcomed a Malta win as it would have been a bit different but it seems these days you need to be a good looking girl wearing a tight fitting outfit. Didn't Ukraine win last year due to those women looking like Xena Warrior Princess?

I think next year we should have a traditional Irish song with hot women wearing Celtic battle gear. It's our best chance!

Trotter · 22-05-2005 01:35AM

Hmm.. I didnt watch it but you're analysis has intrigued me!! Will it be repeated at any stage on any channel?

LadyJ · 22-05-2005 01:46AM

Fcuk this,I'm trying out next year and dammit I'm gonna win!

irishgeo · 22-05-2005 02:13AM

RTE making tons of profit on kids voting for acts on "Your a Spa" .

Block voting and the fact we send some kids means RTÉ never has to get the award of hosting the thing by winning it.

Did anybody see the Germans vote giving. The square behind him in hamburg was packed. Cant imagaine the same thing happening in Dublin.

billy the squid · 22-05-2005 02:28AM

Hah some poetic justice can be drawn for this, the four countries who automatically qualify because they have the bigger money contributions ended up at the bottom. the big four were not so big tonight. Time to scrap the automatic qualifying for these four countries.

Although I lost out on my bet on Norway, Im not too disappointed with the result. At least its out of the Eastern Block for a change next year.

think ireland should try their hand at this

Tiffany · 22-05-2005 04:32AM

Greece was a sh!t song, Romania or Malta much more deserved a win.

Romania won the semi-final, and Moldova came second. Pity that wasn't the result of the final!

I can't believe Ireland gave 12 points to the Latvian song, and it came 5th! It was the worst performance of the night, they were so out of tune.

And you know what's ironic? Eurovision has become so much of a circus act that one circus act doesn't really stand out from 90% of other countries' circus acts anymore. That's why there were 3 ballads in the Top 5; Malta, Israel and Latvia. Malta was the best proof that you don't need a slutty woman or a mad circus act to do well, because she came second!

gaui3d0pnbz86o · 22-05-2005 09:36AM

i do wish they would scrap the phone voting, stupid money making scam! and bring back the jurys. scrap your a star and bring back the national song contest! this is a serious compitation and we used to be the best at it!(are we still the country that won the most?) we just treat it as a joke now as thats all RTE do ..treat it like a joke, they get money and keep ray D'arcy out of the rte building for a long time

Pigman II · 22-05-2005 10:03AM

Let the Eastern Europeans enjoy their little block-voting cartel! One day when the Irony Curtain falls they too will realise the whole competition is just a farce.

Saruman · 22-05-2005 10:09AM

Capt'n Midnight wrote:

Aren't we forgetting that most people probably prefer a song in a langague that they could understand. And the languages you are most likley to understand are from neighbouring countries.

Most of the songs were in English i thought.. so that theory does not matter.. only a few actually sang in their own language. France being one... look how many votes they got

Saruman · 22-05-2005 10:13AM

Tiffany wrote:

Greece was a sh!t song, Romania or Malta much more deserved a win.

I can't believe Ireland gave 12 points to the Latvian song, and it came 5th! It was the worst performance of the night, they were so out of tune.

Greece did have a crap song but it was catchy and she was hot.. of course she won.. myself i liked the Swiss entry

but i was rooting for Noway.. 80's rock .. yeah!!!!

As for Ireland giving 12 points to latvia?? Why not? Who was doing the televoting?? Young girls/women of course and Irish girls love their boy bands. 2 blond guys singing like westlife.. Of course they get the vote..

Stupid televoting... funny thing is when the jurys were doing it.. everyone thought that was unfair and wanted a public vote.

Feenikusu · 22-05-2005 10:41AM

I don't understand why Greece won. The song was bad! I hated it! And Helena and Javine looked very alike.
During the whole voting I was just hoping that this stupid Greece won't won, but...well.
And this Balkan-connection is annoying. It was pretty easy to guess who gets points by who.
But I liked the fact that Germany was a total loser, our song by Gracia sucked and I hope that they'll realize that we don't need such boring pseudo-rock songs.
Moldova and Norway were great, btw. I wanted Moldova to win ^_^

Saruman · 22-05-2005 10:47AM

Its not just the baltic states that do political voting!! Look at all the scandanavian countries including iceland!! Denmark, Norway, Sweden etc...

Feenikusu · 22-05-2005 11:08AM

Yep, and Cyprus - Greece, Spain - Andorra (btw, was this andorrian presenter speaking spanish or french?), UK - Ireland, and usually Austria - Switzerland, Germany - Turkey, Belgium - Netherlands...
But how can you manage it so that this can't happen? I wouldn't like having a jury. The song most europeans like should win, not the song the jury likes best.

mike65 · 22-05-2005 11:19AM

billy the squid wrote:

Hah some poetic justice can be drawn for this, the four countries who automatically qualify because they have the bigger money contributions ended up at the bottom. the big four were not so big tonight. Time to scrap the automatic qualifying for these four countries.

The voting patern is West v East now. Look at the countries who did worst - France, Germany, UK, Spain, Sweden.

Ireland, Belgium Italy, Portugal did'nt even qualify. Only Denmark and Norwegians did halfway okay.

I was amused at the PC voting amoung the Balkan states. They all love each other now.

Mike.

Sarky · 22-05-2005 11:51AM

The Iron Curtain lives on IN SONG!!!!

Gordon · 22-05-2005 12:01PM

Only saw the last half of the songs and I thought the Greek entry was the best song as far as performance and songwriting went. There were some entries that could have been good songs if produced for a single and not played live like Frances but that is the sign of a sh*t song I guess.

On one hand I'm happy that Greece won because it was a good song unlike many other previous Eurovisions. On the other hand over here in Greece we're going to be hearing that f*cking song everywhere. I was going insane from last years Greek entry Sakis Rouvas that came third so I can't imagine how bad it will be with a winner. Oh there you go, a car just drove by blasting the song out there..

nesf · 22-05-2005 12:03PM

Sarky wrote:

The Iron Curtain lives on IN SONG!!!!

Brilliant

But um, since when has the eurovision not been a tacky piece of PC fluff? The televoting doesn't really make much of a difference, doe it really matter who wins?

It produced Dana and Abba... It has a lot to answer for in my estimation...

StupidLikeAFox · 22-05-2005 12:56PM

Thing is the euro song used to be organised by rte, therefore a decent effort was put in. For a few years now the selection process was outsourced to a production company (coco maybe?) and hence the your a spa crap. This really needs to change, even if its just a format. For instance, if they brought singer/songwriters on with their own songs and performances instead of kids who can sing.

As regards the block voting, im pretty sure everyone would do the same, as there could be a lot of solidarity there. Also, Country A might be neighbours with Country B, so each country might have a good few residents from the neighbouring country, who will vote for their own country.

Also, norway rocked my socks. Malta were pretty good too. It really is all about the performance and show you put on, and ireland wont put on a good show until your a star is scrapped/changed

madmorphy · 22-05-2005 01:12PM

Sure "your a star" is only a money making racket with most of the money coming from the family and friends of the contestants,they'll never scrap that.

Stephen · 22-05-2005 01:16PM

That Israeli singer was HOT.

mmm

caesar · 22-05-2005 01:34PM

Stephen wrote:

That Israeli singer was HOT.

mmm

i agree, she was stunning.Did any one notice how some of the songs seemed familar, one had lyrics "come on, come on ................." cant remember which country but the song (and the beat of it) seemed very familar

, anyone agree

Scarinae · 22-05-2005 01:44PM

Well, I've heard before of people living near the border in Northern Ireland going across the border to vote for the UK, and vice versa - what's to say that that's not happening in Eastern Europe? The problem with Ireland is that we're not in a landmass

Tar.Aldarion · 22-05-2005 01:50PM

when ireland gave uk 8 points,the uk presenter was like:
"these people know what makes a good eurovision song" etc...found it quite funny..

Sarky · 22-05-2005 01:51PM

caesar wrote:

.Did any one notice how some of the songs seemed familar, one had lyrics "come on, come on ................." cant remember which country but the song (and the beat of it) seemed very familar , anyone agree

Not surprising. They had to add a limit to the amount of times you could put "la" in the lyrics years back. Eurovision has never really been an area of musical creativity.

RuggieBear · 22-05-2005 02:09PM

Tar.Aldarion wrote:

when ireland gave uk 8 points,the uk presenter was like:
"these people know what makes a good eurovision song" etc...found it quite funny..

sure that's our own Terry "I'm not Irish" Wogan

In my household we voted for Latvia and Denmark...

namaimo · 22-05-2005 02:17PM

In fairness tho Ireland need to produce somthing with sex appeal to stand a chance.. I mean the Mc Caul red headed brother&sister act from Athlone doesnt exactly scream sex appeal! :rolleyes:

Our man in Havana · 22-05-2005 02:37PM

I also found the product placement to be stupid. Advetising the cd and dvd. Just mad!

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