Are Irish Women ugly?

shakaman · 10-05-2005 03:54PM

Despatch wrote:

Ahhhh..... Just when the fun was starting

I reckon if we wait around long enough there'll be a reply from a.n.other which sounds like someone tryin to take the p'ss out of you when they're warped.......no doubt it'll be Tel re-incarnated!

The Sweeper · 10-05-2005 03:54PM

--Kaiser-- wrote:

So your response to somone making unfounded generalizations about Irish women is to make similar generalizations about Irish men?

...yep, looks like it.

I don't think there's much point doing anything else when one of these threads starts up on boards.ie. There's only so many times one poster can be expected to respond logically and calmly to a thread built by teenaged net-nerd virgins about how ugly the local women are.

Sort of like your argument to me.

I make a sweeping generalisation.

You respond: "That's a sweeping generalisation".

If I were to retaliate in the manner usually accepted, I'd say "No, it's not a generalisation, everyone knows [insert some sort of rabble-rousing comment guaranteed to get a rise out of some poster somewhere]".

The most frustrating part of it is that small-minded generalisations are the breeding ground for stereotypes.

I could go off on one now about how there is vast and unhealthy pressure on women in this day and age to be perfect, and look perfect, and have surgery, and eating disorders, and spend vast amounts of money on gimmick cosmetics, to look perfect. And how the kind of mindset that encourages a thread that includes comments like 'most irish women are ugly' does nothing to help that unhealthy pressure. And I could state that most of the pimply-faced virgin opinions voiced on this thread are unsubstantiated by real-life experience, and at the current rate are never likely to be.

But there's probably no point.

Anyway, it's more fun trading ignorant insults with people who tell me I'm small-minded and ask if my trousers are held up with string.

Jesus, I ask you, who'd be a feminist on the interwheb.

magpie · 10-05-2005 03:55PM

ask if my trousers are held up with string.

Are they?

The Sweeper · 10-05-2005 04:00PM

No, they're held up with one of those big leather belts with the large ornate buckles that're currently in fashion. And the buckle beading matches the beading on my shoes, because I think it looks nice.

This may make me a tuna-crate fat bint of a minger of a hound of a moose's mother of a slag, I'm not sure. I may have to do an online tick-box survey to find out.

ambro25 · 10-05-2005 04:03PM

Minesajackdaniels wrote:

I could go off on one now about how there is vast and unhealthy pressure on women in this day and age to be perfect, and look perfect, and have surgery, and eating disorders, and spend vast amounts of money on gimmick cosmetics, to look perfect.

But I (or anybody else with a modicum of Real Life Experience®) would retort that there is an equally-increasing pressure on men (admittedly only very recent, compared to the peer pressure on women you refer to).

I used to have a 6-pack, and now -after extreme care & gentle nurturing- successfully grown into a 1 pack with option to convert into 2 or 3 if I suck in... That was back in the day before relentless adverts for the Beckham shaver, Boss perfume lift encounters (advice: don't do lifts with carpeted walls, you'll both get carpets burns), etc. etc. Nothing against male grooming, I believe it's progress, but the 'fit male body' pressure is mounting all the same.

magpie · 10-05-2005 04:03PM

This may make me a tuna-crate fat bint of a minger of a hound of a moose's mother of a slag, I'm not sure. I may have to do an online tick-box survey to find out

At least you're not touchy.

Beckham shaver

Is it really, really thick?

ambro25 · 10-05-2005 04:05PM

Minesajackdaniels wrote:

This may make me a tuna-crate (etc.)

Meant as a joke only, m'lass...you know...bit of light relief...

magpie wrote:

Is it really, really thick?

Sorry, me no get this.

The Sweeper · 10-05-2005 04:12PM

Yes, I accept that there's pressure on men to look good, but at the same time, the "I used to have a six pack" thing rings very true.

The first step in looking good is feeling good about yourself.

The first step in feeling good about yourself is realising that, once nineteen comes and goes, you ain't ever gonna look like that again...

(If you're pre-nineteen, it doesn't count, because it's apparently not physically possible to be happy with yourself when you're teenaged.)

An Beckham shavers are thick, and popular - if you leave them down for two minutes and take your eye off them, someone else picks them up...

Tar.Aldarion · 10-05-2005 04:18PM

i like irish women for a combination of looks,personality and they can relate better,well as their from here.

Rossonero · 10-05-2005 04:23PM

Irish women are good looking in general. Ugly compared to Croat women. Greek women, now they're ugly, with their hairy arms and legs.

ambro25 · 10-05-2005 04:25PM

Minesajackdaniels wrote:

Yes, I accept that there's pressure on men to look good, but at the same time, the "I used to have a six pack" thing rings very true. The first step in looking good is feeling good about yourself.

Ah...totally concur - and I do, lucky-lucky-me! (look good, that is, hahaha!)

Minesajackdaniels wrote:

An Beckham shavers are thick

Still don't get the "thick" thing...What do you mean with: the shavers are "thick"?

magpie · 10-05-2005 04:30PM

Its an admittedly weak attempt at a pun; making comparison between the width of the razor and the dimwittedness of the peon employed to sell it.

TBH any bloke who feels any need to compare himself with that shaven baboon trained to kick a piece of leather around deserves to feel inadequate, but not for the reason he thinks.

Firewalkwithme · 10-05-2005 04:32PM

magpie wrote:

Its an admittedly weak attempt at a pun; making comparison between the width of the razor and the dimwittedness of the peon employed to sell it.

TBH any bloke who feels any need to compare himself with that shaven baboon trained to kick a piece of leather around deserves to feel inadequate, but not for the reason he thinks.

I quit shaving as a result of those ad's to avoid being associated with himself.

Pighead · 10-05-2005 04:55PM

I would like to stand up for an oppressed minority that hardly receives any attention from our intellectuals: the ugly. I say 'hardly any', because some compassion does exist. A whole lot of compassion in my case.I love the uglies.

it can't be denied that discrimination of ugly people is all too common. It all starts at school: ugly children are being teased, they don't fit in, they have no friends - in short, life is hell for ugly children. They are being called nerds, geeks, dweebs, wimps, creeps, Fatso's, and so on; the teacher won't interfere. Only when a black child is being called '******', the teacher will take immediate action. I don't doubt that this happens with the best of intentions, but it will only reinforce the feelings of isolation and discrimination the ugly child suffers.

When the ugly child grows older, he will discover that he is being discriminated against, and even exploited, in one of the most important areas of life: love. You hardly ever see a handsome man walking with an ugly woman. A beautiful woman and an ugly man are seen more often together, but only when the ugly man compensates for his looks with money or a high position. Of course this doesn't end the discrimination. The ugly man who can't compensate for his looks will have to turn to prostitutes if he wants to experience the pleasures of holding a beautiful woman in his arms. In short, the ugly man will have to pay for something handsome men can get for free; one can hardly imagine a more outrageous form of discrimination.

Furthermore, there exists a massive body of scientific research which proves that discrimination of ugly people is pervasive in areas ranging from grades in school to the chances of getting a job. In spite of this, the ugly person will never see an employment advertisement of the government in which he is asked empathicly to respond, or which states that the ugliest applicant will get the job. If someone would suggest that businesses should be forced by law to register the number of their ugly employees, he would be derided by the same enlightened intellectuals who are demanding that businesses do exactly this with respect to their colored fellow citizens.

To conclude, it's clear that there is a great injustice going on, which needs to be remedied as soon as possible.

simu · 10-05-2005 04:57PM

There are ugly and beautiful people in every country. Many Irish people (men & women) are getting fat these days though and people really should take more care of themselves. I'm not saying everyone should go anorexic but I've noticed that many people in this country don't put much effort into eating proper food.

On average, I think Irish women look a bit better than Irish men and it wouldn't kill Irish men to make more of an effort with their appearance (of course boards users are an exception to these statements - we're all above reproach!).

Buttmunchy · 10-05-2005 04:58PM

It has come to my attention that all you are idiots. I complained about grammar and spelling - but when you knew you were defeated you acted like you hadn't been and got the topic deleted. Why doesn't that surprise me? And now I discover that not only are your faces glued to the computer screen on this board, you can't spell or use correct grammar, but you are also racist, insulting pigs. So ban me! I don't give a crap! The only reason you ban people is if they offend you, which I think is absolutely pathetic because you insult more people than the banned. And if you delete this post, you will be even more stupid. I just thought I might like to point that out. Let me guess... you're going to ban me? Bye then - it was nice to annoy you, and especially point out the obvious.

blondie83 · 10-05-2005 05:06PM

Can I be the first to say "What are you on about?"

--Kaiser-- · 10-05-2005 05:07PM

damn! Beat me to it, i was gonna say..

Buh?

Tar.Aldarion · 10-05-2005 05:07PM

em dude you are on the crack?yes?
my reply is freakin' smurf

Sherifu · 10-05-2005 05:10PM

Buttmunchy wrote:

It has come to my attention that all you are idiots. I complained about grammar and spelling - but when you knew you were defeated you acted like you hadn't been and got the topic deleted. Why doesn't that surprise me? And now I discover that not only are your faces glued to the computer screen on this board, you can't spell or use correct grammar, but you are also racist, insulting pigs. So ban me! I don't give a crap! The only reason you ban people is if they offend you, which I think is absolutely pathetic because you insult more people than the banned. And if you delete this post, you will be even more stupid. I just thought I might like to point that out. Let me guess... you're going to ban me? Bye then - it was nice to annoy you, and especially point out the obvious.

laughed out loud at that, wtf tbh @_0

Buttmunchy · 10-05-2005 05:15PM

I mean you were all slagging this guy off because he's french! And.. oh forget it.

Blisterman · 10-05-2005 05:16PM

I think Spain probebly has the highest proportion of hot women. Italy and Germany too.
Actually most of Continental Europe other than France.
But I met some Spainish guys who thought Irish girls were the hottest theyd met. He loved the amount of blondes, so thats one thing Irish girls have going for them. I still think there are a lot of hot irish girls.

10-05-2005 05:18PM

Minesajackdaniels wrote:

Between being coddled by their mammies, thereby encouraging their over-inflated sense of self importance, and having no other outlet for their efforts than drinking with their buddies, they're a bunch of badly dressed, underfit, freckly faced geeks with podgy physiques and bad personal hygiene who think women should be blessed to land them.

So what if they are? This thread wasn't started about Irish men, but rather the question was asked about Irish women. Saying that Irish men are just as bad doesn't escape the opinion of many people that consider that irish women are under par compared to Spanish, American, etc.

dceire wrote:

I know that this thread will get many an angry response especially from women but I honestly think that the huge majority of Irish women are unattractive especially compared to the likes of the Italians, Spanish(Latino in general), Japanese etc. etc.

This was the original question, and I agree with him. I assume you don't agree since you'd rather than go on a rampage about Irish men being awful

(Which I agree with you in general)

I just think Irish people don't look after themselves, and as such tend to look worse than foreigners.

blondie83 · 10-05-2005 05:24PM

Buttmunchy wrote:

I mean you were all slagging this guy off because he's french! And.. oh forget it.

No we were slagging off the guy who was slagging off the French guy cos the French guy had better grammar than him...never mind this has the potential to get complicated!

pseud · 10-05-2005 06:01PM

Unfortunately, the Irish gene-pool is a little shallow, as was recently pointed out by a spokesman for the medical profession. The situation isn’t too bad in the cities and larger towns, but out in the sticks and the bog-lands, things are a little too close for comfort with regard to the production of good-looking people. “Family Weddings” are just that in those areas. As a direct consequence of this, there is a high rural concentration of mutant mingers of both sexes. Some of them somehow find their way to the larger conurbations, frightening children and generally giving a bad impression of the population as a whole.

krattapopov · 10-05-2005 06:46PM

Irish women as a whole are not ugly, in fact quite the opposite. Most Irish women are very good looking imo. Also I think they age a whole lot better than there mediterranean counterparts who all turn into funny looking dried up women.

Give me an Irish girl any day.

cordelia · 10-05-2005 07:02PM

At the risk of unleashing the wraths of hell, I'm going to admit that I'm american. I've lived in Canada, America, travelled Europe, lived in Ireland. Irish women are no uglier or prettier than women from other places. It seems to depend on what the man is into. As a general rule, yes perhaps Northern Europeans are more beautiful. But if you like brunettes or redheads than you're not going to agree.

Irish women seem to have lovely personalities and this is reflected in their faces. There are also some stunners out there. But, again, I think there are stunners in every country.

Yes, Irish men do have a good rep with the ladies overseas. Especially America where it seems that anyone who harkens from the ol' sod can get laid on accent alone.

The same goes for foreigners in Ireland as well. Much as I hear online how everyone HATES americans and their awful accents, I've actually had the opposite experience. Of course, my accent is more west coast and not as brittle perhaps, but the fellas always seemed to love listening to me talk. Mind you, I've a mad sense of humor and a few brain cells left so perhaps this helped. (Generally, I've done better in Ireland with fellas, who seem to find me attractive, than in America where they want every women to be blond and 6 foot with implants).
Maybe it's that we foreigners are more comfortable chatting with fellas and flirting? Who knows.
Eitherway, I think what's happening is that people here are being exposed to new cultures and people. That's exotic and interesting. To both sides, the foreigner and the native.
But Irish girls are lovely in general and a good laugh. So are a lot of Irish guys.

Scarinae · 10-05-2005 08:28PM

Yes, there are a fair share of mingers in Ireland - like in any country. I don't think you can generalise like that. What is the definition of ugly anyway - Fat? Disfigured? Horrible teeth? I don't know what you're all getting at

10-05-2005 08:42PM

What a pointless thread...... how can you debate about who is uglier and prettier when no two people agree on what makes a person ugly or pretty? Some guys like pale skinned redheads, so of course they are going to say Irish women are better looking, and if you like Asian types or olive skinned types you'll say they're prettier.
I'm a girl but personally I think loads of Chinese/Japanese women are gorgeous, really clear skin, really petite, great fashion sense but when I mentioned that I thought a Chinese girl I know was really pretty my friend looked at me like I was insane, she's obviously one of those people who just can't see Asian people as being attractive.
Interestingly, when people first see me they assume I'm Spanish, then when they realise I'm not they seem to lose interest a bit.

b3t4 · 10-05-2005 08:52PM

My suggestion for the men who are unhappy with Irish women is for ye to move to these foreign countries.

Oh and if ye could send back all those good looking French/Italian/Spanish etc men it'd be much appreciated.

A.

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