worms

Lump · 06-05-2005 03:20PM

DrIndy wrote:

Leeches have growing medical use, the pharmaceutically purified form of their anticoagulant (blood thinner) is called Hirudin and is used in certain circumstances when people are allergic to other blood thinners.

Leeches that have been irradiated (to sterilise them) are sometimes used by some plastic surgeons in the USA to relieve blood congestion when they reattach a skin flap thats has been torn off during a traumatic incident.

Isn't that what I said, but in english.

John

Kêrmêttê · 06-05-2005 03:50PM

This thread has kept me quite entertained while at work.
In fact... I think I encounter many wormy type beings during my working day! :eek:

shakaman · 06-05-2005 03:54PM

pwd wrote:

was told about some program on telly where they said about 1 in 7 people in this country have worms in their intestines. Is this true? How do you check?

Alot of kids get them....hence why Mammy is alwys givin out to you for scratchin your bum! When you look down in the loo after a number 2, you can see the little whities squirming around in it. Don't worry about a scratch but if there's an internal feeling to it, like an under the skin kinda thing.......you could be in trouble........Disgusting eh!

DrIndy · 06-05-2005 03:59PM

shakaman wrote:

Alot of kids get them....hence why Mammy is alwys givin out to you for scratchin your bum! When you look down in the loo after a number 2, you can see the little whities squirming around in it. Don't worry about a scratch but if there's an internal feeling to it, like an under the skin kinda thing.......you could be in trouble........Disgusting eh!

she's giving out for a good reason - hookworms crawl out and lay their sticky eggs on your perineum (skin around your anus). they are itchy, you scratch, you eat your dinner and then you're infected again........

moral of the story is if your arse is itchy get someone else to scratch it!

shakaman · 06-05-2005 04:01PM

DrIndy wrote:

she's giving out for a good reason - hookworms crawl out and lay their sticky eggs on your perineum (skin around your anus). they are itchy, you scratch, you eat your dinner and then you're infected again........

moral of the story is if your arse is itchy get someone else to scratch it!

DrIndy you are indeed a wise man!!

Pyr0 · 06-05-2005 04:31PM

Deleted User wrote:

enjoy -
Warning - not for the faint hearted!

http://www.kontraband.com/show/show.asp?ID=2238&NEXTID=0&PREVID=2241&DISPLAYORDER=20050504225031&CAT=movies&NSFW=3&page=1

Jesus!! O_O thats horrible!!!

petes · 06-05-2005 04:35PM

I did not like that video yet still watched it. Interesting stuff yet a little bit disturbing. Everytime I scratch my arse now I'll be wondering....

Bri~ · 06-05-2005 04:50PM

What if you had worms as a child and it went untreated. Would it affect you in a bad way, stunt your growth?

Some people have said that worms can be good for you, strengthen your imune system etc. But others have said that they can make you tired and you become malnourished.

Whats the truth, Dr Indy?!

DrIndy · 06-05-2005 05:04PM

Bri~ wrote:

What if you had worms as a child and it went untreated. Would it affect you in a bad way, stunt your growth?

Some people have said that worms can be good for you, strengthen your imune system etc. But others have said that they can make you tired and you become malnourished.

Whats the truth, Dr Indy?!

if you had a heavy infestation when young, then it probably would stunt your growth - remember when you eat, you have to feed them as well - so you're eating for 2 or more correctly a few hundred!

Pet · 06-05-2005 09:50PM

You can get them from fish as well as beef and pork?

Afai remember, a lot of the tapeworms aren't really harmful; they sit in your gut and absorb your food, that's pretty much it. HOWEVER, trichinellosis is a disease you can get from undercooked pork, and these worms are much more dangerous. Once the eggs reach your digestive tract, they hatch, and migrate through your body (a fever and severe illness ensues). They finally make their way into your muscles, where they form cysts. Once they're there, you can't get rid of them, and they make even simple movement painful and fatigue-inducing - you're stuck with them for life. (I'm probably wrong, but I think after ten years they start to calcify.) This is the main reason why pork is banned by nearly all major religions!!
Oh, and salting/smoking doesn't kill them - the meat has to be cooked properly to kill them.

pwd · 07-05-2005 04:09AM

so eating Parma ham is risking this condition?

More googling about tapeworms turned this up:

37.Cattle are also fed chicken manure, which may contain tapeworms, Giardia, antibiotic residues, arsenic and heavy metals. Federal inspectors report that animals that are visibly diseased, cattle infected with measles, tapeworms, and covered with abscesses are slaughtered and processed into meat. This is why the industry and the USDA are pushing meat irradiation rather then safety, health, and inspections as a solution.

Mmmmmmm yumsters! They're talking about MacDonalds btw.

Gordon · 07-05-2005 09:56AM

Pet wrote:

This is the main reason why pork is banned by nearly all major religions!!

I thought it was due to them being 'of cloven hoof'.

"You shall not eat any abominable things. And the pig, because it has a cloven hoof but does not chew the cud, you shall regard as unclean. You shall not eat their flesh or even touch their dead carcasses"

"avoid the blood and the flesh of swine, and do not eat any such thing on which someone´s else name has been pronounced except the name of Allah, subhaana wa ta´aala."

DrIndy · 07-05-2005 12:56PM

Pet wrote:

Afai remember, a lot of the tapeworms aren't really harmful; they sit in your gut and absorb your food, that's pretty much it. HOWEVER, trichinellosis is a disease you can get from undercooked pork, and these worms are much more dangerous. Once the eggs reach your digestive tract, they hatch, and migrate through your body (a fever and severe illness ensues). They finally make their way into your muscles, where they form cysts. Once they're there, you can't get rid of them, and they make even simple movement painful and fatigue-inducing - you're stuck with them for life. (I'm probably wrong, but I think after ten years they start to calcify.) This is the main reason why pork is banned by nearly all major religions!!
Oh, and salting/smoking doesn't kill them - the meat has to be cooked properly to kill them.

Thats the Hydatid Cysts I mentioned - nasty pieces of work if they get in the wrong place.

always cook your food, thoroughly.....

And NEVER eat yellow snow....

DrIndy · 07-05-2005 01:11PM

for more information - the trouble with worms are that there are so many different species. Roundworms and tapeworms can grow quite large, whereas hookworms and pinworms stay small.

Roundworm infestations can be quite heavy and the end result is sometimes obstruction of the gut due to a big ball of worms lodging and blocking everything on the way down......

Here's a picture: (WARNING! GRAPHIC)

http://cas.bellarmine.edu/tietjen/images/roundworm.jpg

lomb · 07-05-2005 01:18PM

DrIndy wrote:

for more information - the trouble with worms are that there are so many different species. Roundworms and tapeworms can grow quite large, whereas hookworms and pinworms stay small.

Roundworm infestations can be quite heavy and the end result is sometimes obstruction of the gut due to a big ball of worms lodging and blocking everything on the way down......

Here's a picture: (WARNING! GRAPHIC)

http://cas.bellarmine.edu/tietjen/images/roundworm.jpg

hmm tasty

Gordon · 07-05-2005 01:33PM

Noone can have that many in their intestines surely. /vom

Incidentally, anyone any ideas on what that maggot thing was on the girls neck?

tba · 07-05-2005 01:36PM

Ok i getting really paranoid now.

How do I go to the doc under the pretense of a checkup and convince him to check for worms?

DrIndy · 07-05-2005 01:56PM

Yes it unfortunately is possible to have that much - they eventually form a ball and block the bowel. The image is of a piece of bowel surgically removed because it was blocked up.

Here's another one: WARNING! GRAPHIC!
http://cas.bellarmine.edu/tietjen/images/worms2.jpg

This image was taken after the person was dewormed and all the dead worms were expelled.....

I think the girl had a blowfly maggot in her neck. They covered it with a plastic film to suffocate it before removal. They have grippers and so cannot be removed before killing them off......

Gordon · 07-05-2005 02:02PM

I'm amazed a person can live life with so many worms inside them. It must be impossible to sleep what with the late night parties and rock concerts.

DrIndy · 07-05-2005 02:04PM

Your belly becomes a bit distended and you are malnourished, but most people are not aware of a mild infestation - its only if it becomes excessive do the problems arise....

Kevin_rc_ie · 07-05-2005 02:11PM

Could giving someone a worm infestation be used as a dieting technique?

--Kaiser-- · 07-05-2005 02:31PM

Someone mentioned that 'floaters' in your eyes are caused by little nematode worms? I thought they were just dead cells floating in your eyeballs....

I get those things all the time, usually when i've been drinking

tba · 07-05-2005 02:37PM

"WORMS"

Natures parasites.....

Guru Maith Agut · 07-05-2005 02:39PM

DrIndy wrote:

Here's another one: WARNING! GRAPHIC!
http://cas.bellarmine.edu/tietjen/images/worms2.jpg

mmmmm. Love noodles!!

DrIndy · 07-05-2005 02:39PM

--Kaiser-- wrote:

Someone mentioned that 'floaters' in your eyes are caused by little nematode worms? I thought they were just dead cells floating in your eyeballs....

I get those things all the time, usually when i've been drinking

Floaters are anything passing over your field of vision. They CAN RARELY be caused by worms, but NOT ALL FLOATERS are worms.... The species that get into your eye are also only found in the tropics....

The Diet of Worms! An interesting concept, theoretically possible, but not wise, remember your belly would grow, so it may not be aesthetic

Kevin_rc_ie · 07-05-2005 02:42PM

Wouldn't it allow you to eat all that crappy high sugar high fats foods, let the worms grow and bulge, then suck them out and start again. Obviously, it won't teach a good eating practice, or exercise routine but sounds better to me than surgery.

DrIndy · 07-05-2005 02:43PM

Guru Maith Agut wrote:

mmmmm. Love noodles!!

lol

Stark · 07-05-2005 02:45PM

Kevin_rc_ie wrote:

Wouldn't it allow you to eat all that crappy high sugar high fats foods, let the worms grow and bulge, then suck them out and start again. Obviously, it won't teach a good eating practice, or exercise routine but sounds better to me than surgery.

I'll stick with two fingers down the back of my throat thanks.

DrIndy · 07-05-2005 05:47PM

Kevin_rc_ie wrote:

Wouldn't it allow you to eat all that crappy high sugar high fats foods, let the worms grow and bulge, then suck them out and start again. Obviously, it won't teach a good eating practice, or exercise routine but sounds better to me than surgery.

An interesting concept - but worms would need protein too which has to come from somewhere such as your gut wall.....

Pet · 07-05-2005 11:00PM

Gordon wrote:

I thought it was due to them being 'of cloven hoof'.

"You shall not eat any abominable things. And the pig, because it has a cloven hoof but does not chew the cud, you shall regard as unclean. You shall not eat their flesh or even touch their dead carcasses"

"avoid the blood and the flesh of swine, and do not eat any such thing on which someone´s else name has been pronounced except the name of Allah, subhaana wa ta´aala."

Well they SAY it's because they have cloven hooves, but it's really because of the danger involved. They also ban shellfish (due to bacterial food poisoning), but they don't give a proper reason for that either.

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