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  • 05-05-2005 11:14PM
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,284 ✭✭✭pwd


    was told about some program on telly where they said about 1 in 7 people in this country have worms in their intestines. Is this true? How do you check?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,388 ✭✭✭Kernel


    pwd wrote:
    was told about some program on telly where they said about 1 in 7 people in this country have worms in their intestines. Is this true? How do you check?

    All joking aside, I think pigface has worms... he might know. But i heard your ass gets real itchy if you have them... ahhh where's DrIndy when you need him! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,522 ✭✭✭✭Gordon


    The only way to check is by looking at your eyeball. If your eyeball is flecked then you have worms.

    Did you know that some form of worm type thing that exists in tropical places can only be taken out when it walks across your eyeball. When it walks across your eyeball you pluck it off your eyeball and hence stop the worm infection. It's true, look it up.

    Then theres the worms that traverse up your urethra upon your taking a pee in tropical waters. They feel the heat from your warm urine and traverse up the warm urine trail into your bladder.

    Worms are sneaky wee beggars.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,388 ✭✭✭Kernel


    Gordon wrote:
    Did you know that some form of worm type thing that exists in tropical places can only be taken out when it walks across your eyeball. When it walks across your eyeball you pluck it off your eyeball and hence stop the worm infection. It's true, look it up.

    That's nasty! :eek:

    I also heard a rumour that models go to certain places to actually have worms put in them, so that they will retain their malnurished looks. But then again, I may just be propogating an urban legend there...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,352 ✭✭✭funky penguin


    Kernel wrote:
    All joking aside, I think pigface has worms... he might know. But i heard your ass gets real itchy if you have them... ahhh where's DrIndy when you need him! :)


    Jesus Christ I was scratching my arse when I read that! :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,111 ✭✭✭tba


    Jesus Christ I was scratching my arse when I read that! :eek:
    ya wont get worms sittin on yer hole in wexford...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,461 ✭✭✭DrIndy


    All joking aside, I think pigface has worms... he might know. But i heard your ass gets real itchy if you have them... ahhh where's DrIndy when you need him!

    I'm here! :)
    Did you know that some form of worm type thing that exists in tropical places can only be taken out when it walks across your eyeball. When it walks across your eyeball you pluck it off your eyeball and hence stop the worm infection. It's true, look it up.

    Rare thing over here - and you can't pick them off to stop the infection as there are loads of the little buggers.....
    Then theres the worms that traverse up your urethra upon your taking a pee in tropical waters. They feel the heat from your warm urine and traverse up the warm urine trail into your bladder.

    Thats actually a catfish, its about 2" long and very thin with a load of reverse pointing spines and once it swims up your urine stream, lodges in your urethra because the spines prevent its removal. Moral of that story is, never pee directly into water if you are in the amazon basin....

    There are loads of different species of intestinal worms, enclosed is some information from medline for those who are interested.....

    http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/parasiticdiseases.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,496 ✭✭✭*Angel*


    DrIndy wrote:
    Thats actually a catfish, its about 2" long and very thin with a load of reverse pointing spines and once it swims up your urine stream, lodges in your urethra because the spines prevent its removal. Moral of that story is, never pee directly into water if you are in the amazon basin....

    That's lovely that is... :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,352 ✭✭✭funky penguin


    tba wrote:
    ya wont get worms sittin on yer hole in wexford...


    No.....but I might get crabs!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,352 ✭✭✭funky penguin


    DrIndy wrote:

    Thats actually a catfish, its about 2" long and very thin with a load of reverse pointing spines and once it swims up your urine stream, lodges in your urethra because the spines prevent its removal. Moral of that story is, never pee directly into water if you are in the amazon basin....

    Forget the Fuuckin Amazon! I'm never peeing again!!! :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,984 ✭✭✭✭Lump


    tapeworms-claude.jpg

    There's a tape worm being extracted. In days gone by, you had to starve yourself for like a couple of weeks, then hold meat in front of your mouth, and it's crawl out while you were awake etc.

    John


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,352 ✭✭✭funky penguin


    Lump wrote:
    There's a tape worm being extracted. In days gone by, you had to starve yourself for like a couple of weeks, then hold meat in front of your mouth, and it's crawl out while you were awake etc.

    I bet leeches were involved somewhere aswell....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,984 ✭✭✭✭Lump


    No.

    The are used to clear blood clots and stuff.

    John


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,352 ✭✭✭funky penguin


    Lump wrote:
    No.

    The are used to clear blood clots and stuff.

    John


    You made me cry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,523 ✭✭✭ApeXaviour


    DrIndy wrote:
    Thats actually a catfish, its about 2" long and very thin with a load of reverse pointing spines and once it swims up your urine stream, lodges in your urethra because the spines prevent its removal. Moral of that story is, never pee directly into water if you are in the amazon basin....
    It would be quite physically impossible for anything to swim up your urine stream which is accelerating downwards through the air. The key word here submerged. Don't pee while submerged in water in the amazon basin. Sorry to be a stickler :)
    But indy how likely is it that any of us have worms? I've never been de-wormed even though I've lived with dogs all my life and have had to de-worm them on numerous occasions. Reckon I should get me some of that dog medecine? Seriously!?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,579 ✭✭✭Pet


    They feel the heat from your warm urine and traverse up the warm urine trail into your bladder.

    Actually...they smell/taste the urea in your urine, and believing that your penis is a fish gill, they make their way into it. It's purely accidental. But the only way to get them out is to basically cut the penis open..
    If your eyeball is flecked then you have worms

    Flecked? How do you mean?

    Yeah, a lot of people have worms, and don't realise it, because there are very few symptoms. Mostly it's constantly feeling tired, a lot of rumbling/gurgling in the lower abdomen (NOT the stomach), grinding your teeth at night and biting your nails. They're also believed to be more active around the full moon (sounds like bull****? well it's been proven that many plants and marine organisms are dramatically affected by the phases of the moon..so there..).

    EDIT: (a non-medical perspective)
    But indy how likely is it that any of us have worms? I've never been de-wormed even though I've lived with dogs all my life and have had to de-worm them on numerous occasions. Reckon I should get me some of that dog medecine? Seriously!?

    The worms that dogs get are usually slightly different subspecies than the ones that infest humans..but there is a crossover..
    If you thought you had worms, and didn't know what kind you had, you'd have to take hundreds of different types of medications..because there are helminths, flukes, ascarias, amoebas...the best bet, if you were "suspicious", would be to take some kind of all-round plant-based treatment, because there won't be any side effects, it won't harm you in any way, and they tend to work on a broad spectrum.
    I give my dogs & cats a tincture called Clarkia, it's got wormwood, cloves and something else in it, it's made for humans though, so I take it every few weeks just in case.. you can get it here: http://www.total-cure.com/p/clarkia.html

    (I'm not affiliated with it in any way, but it works pretty well on animals so I'd imagine it's even better for people).
    Edit: it's not safe for horses though, they're sensitive to one of the ingredients.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    Pet wrote:
    But the only way to get them out is to basically cut the penis open..

    sounds almost sexy


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,215 ✭✭✭FranknFurter


    Mossy Monk wrote:
    sounds almost sexy

    /Me Grabs crotch screams and runs away to hide in a corner and shudder!:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,461 ✭✭✭DrIndy


    Lump wrote:
    No.

    The are used to clear blood clots and stuff.

    John
    Leeches have growing medical use, the pharmaceutically purified form of their anticoagulant (blood thinner) is called Hirudin and is used in certain circumstances when people are allergic to other blood thinners.

    Leeches that have been irradiated (to sterilise them) are sometimes used by some plastic surgeons in the USA to relieve blood congestion when they reattach a skin flap thats has been torn off during a traumatic incident.

    Maggots are used too! Maggots can only feed on dead and rotting tissue and so they are used to treat infected feet that diabetics can sometime have. They are used in britain and are also irradiated for sterility. They will literally keep eating until there is no dead or infected tissue left and leave the wound spruced and cleaned. Once you get past the :eek: factor, they are very effective.

    Worms come in all shapes, sizes and species. There is a lengthy list of different medicines needed dependent on the species. Most parasites are adapted to their role. It is not in their interest to harm the host too much as their survival is dependent on the hosts survival too. The trouble arises when worms adapted for a different animal (like dog, cat or pig) manage to infect a human. Their metabolism is out of sync and they start to do damage as a result. Tapeworms are a classic example of this. If you ingest the eggs, they can form hydatid cysts (sacs of fluid containing the parasite) that form in the liver, lungs and brain which are nasty.
    Flecked? How do you mean?

    This is filariasis - they are small nematodes that migrate throughout the body and can sometimes be seen as floaters when they swim across the tear film of your eye.......

    They also cause elephantiasis where they obstruct the fluid drainage from (commonly) your legs and scrotum, resulting in enormous swelling (and I do mean enormous)...... :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,890 ✭✭✭embee


    Honest to goodness, I was reading this, and a little vomit came up my throat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,461 ✭✭✭DrIndy


    Hence, not posting any images...... :D

    ah, why not...... ;)

    http://www.okc.cc.ok.us/biologylabs/Images/Animal_Images/elephantiasis.gif


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,284 ✭✭✭pwd


    1 in 7 people have them here, and one in three in France I heard!?
    That might really undermine our attitudes about obesity in America.
    "Actually, we're thinner because we have worms"

    Their probable harmlessness doesn't prevent me from abhorring the idea of having them in my body. I'm a little freaked out thinking about the possibility.

    You can get them from fish as well as beef and pork? Could smoked salmon have eggs in it then? What about raw meats like parma ham?

    another reason never to "double dip"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,461 ✭✭✭DrIndy


    raw fish is a definite possibility - fish tapeworms are more common in Norway due to the habit of eating raw fish. Smoked salmon is probably safe as the smoking should kill it off. Remember scandinavians eat fish raw, literally, its quite tasty albeit chewy.

    I don't know about parma ham - but if its the genuine product, then the companies in question will be so obsessed with protecting their trademark, it would have to be food standard safe......


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 664 ✭✭✭Nimrod's Son


    It's funny cos worms aren't bad for you unless they're present en masse. They help strengthen your immune system.
    Saw a programme where this woman had a weird condition where, basically, her immune system seemed to think her stomach was a foreign body and as such was constantly trying to reject it, leaving her doubled over with agonising cramps a lot of the time. Doctors had the idea of introducing worms into her digestive system to give her immune system something else to concentrate on and it worked.
    Hail to the worms!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,461 ✭✭✭DrIndy


    Your immune system uses a group of immunce cells called eosinophils and a class of antibody called IgE to attack parasitic infections.

    This is in contrast with the mechanisms for fighting viruses and bacteria where the immune cells can swallow up the smaller organisms.

    Since the parasites are huge, there is a specific attack mechanism.

    The pattern also noted is allergies and asthma are guess what? IgE and Eosinophil mediated. There is strong evidence that in areas where parasites are common, asthma and allergies are rare and the reverse is the case in europe.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,284 ✭✭✭pwd


    Well I had pretty bad asthma until I reached puberty; whereupon it disappeared. I put this down to homronal or psychological changes. If in fact it was down to me contratcing worms, then my gut feeling is that I'd rather have kept the asthma.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,461 ✭✭✭DrIndy


    pwd wrote:
    Well I had pretty bad asthma until I reached puberty; whereupon it disappeared. I put this down to homronal or psychological changes. If in fact it was down to me contratcing worms, then my gut feeling is that I'd rather have kept the asthma.

    unlikely, some people just grow out of asthma and other allergies.

    Immune system is complex and still a big learning curve on how it really works....

    worms are interesting creatures, they have such a :eek: factor involved......


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,284 ✭✭✭pwd


    DrIndy wrote:
    unlikely, some people just grow out of asthma and other allergies.

    I know...tbh I just couldn;t resist working in that "gut feeling" line :/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,461 ✭✭✭DrIndy


    I spotted it and had a laugh :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,461 ✭✭✭DrIndy


    seen it, still trying to figure out what that actually is........ reckon its some kind of maggot......

    You do get all sorts of strange critters in the southern states of the US....


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